Too many negative points to mention them all really...
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 13 September 2002 8:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Hardware
My boss has a friend that has a company that backs up their servers
What? That is one of the funniest things I have heard in a long time. Now I
have heard people taking tapes home with them. What I would like to know
when he gets back to work does he put it back in or does he take one out and
put another in. This is too funny.
Almost as good as " Hey my System Id
Behalf Of EXTERN Hlabse
Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
What? That is one of the funniest things I have heard in a long time.
Now I have heard people taking tapes home with them. What I would like
to
EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of EXTERN Hlabse Tony
(Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
What? That is one of the funniest things I have heard in a long time. Now I
have heard people taking tapes home with them. What I would
want to be protecting it as best
they can.
MP
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 13 September 2002 8:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
He takes it home and puts it back in. I imagine the life of the HD is
pretty shor
x27;t think so. Tell your Boss that his friend is an idiot.
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 5:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
He takes it home and puts it back in. I imagine the life of t
hey should want to
be protecting it as best they can.
MP
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 13 September 2002 8:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
He takes it home and puts it back in. I imagine the life of t
Do it for free. Throw 'em in your bank's night drop.
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Thursday, September 12, 2002 05:55 PM
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> Conversation: Backup Hardware
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don't think so. Tell your Boss that his friend is an idiot.
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 5:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
He takes it home and puts it back in. I imagine the li
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
Now taking tapes home is normal. Depending on your backup schedule most
companies do this on a weekly bases. Bye the way taking one drive home
does no good at all. Think of it this way. Lets say the RAID box catches
fire/blows up. Do you really think one drive will allow
Hell just burn the business down after you upped the insurance to 5 million
dollars and retire.
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From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
Do it for free. Throw &#x
Tell him there won't be any redundency when he takes the HD. Before
fire/flood can happen, you'll probably lose your RAID 5.
Brian
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hummert
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 5:21 PM
To: Exchan
Tell your boss it's a brilliant idea, and tell him that this policy is only successful
if it's used alongside bricklevel backups.
Jon
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 September 2002 23:21
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Hardware
Do you have a fireproof safe at all? I would have thought you would even if you are a
small business. To get a little (boltdown)safe that is fireproof for an hour or so
(hopefully long enough for the fire service to get there plus maybe put it somewhere
sensible) isn't too expensive and you c
istopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
>
>
> Ok any other reason I can throw in there besides the
> Vibration/Temperature RAID box dying?
>
> -Origin
Another thing -does your boss know what raid means?
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From: Daniel Kleinsinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 September 2002 09:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
This has got to be a joke. Taking a spare drive from a RAID 5 is not a valid
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From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 September 2002 23:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
What? That is one of the funniest things I have heard in a long time. Now I
have heard people taking tapes home with them. What I w
nd all the ammo you need is to show them that you can't
recover the system from one disk.
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From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 13 September 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
Tell him there won't be any redunden
Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 8:30 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
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> In RAID-5 one drive is not a mirror of anything.
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Servi
If it is a spare then it is blank!
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From: Daniel Kleinsinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
I was assuming the best... that the "spare drive" they were taking home wa
Read the message once again.NOT ME
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sakti
Chakravarty (Senteq)
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
That disk you're taking home wit
ember 2002 5:25 AM
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Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
Get off that angle. He's not dragging it home from the bumper, he's
giving it a ride on a nice upholstered seat in his Lexus.
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Po
Sakti
Chakravarty (Senteq)
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 9:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
I quite agree, you seem to be missing the point that the backup strategy
is crap, and it's not due to hard disk transportation issues. I think
you have the ammo you were
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
See I already knew the backup strategy was crap. Yet my boss thought it was
a great idea. So the easiest way to win the argument was to show the failure
of the physical device instead of talking strategy
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without saying look you idiot this is not going to work.
Just my .02
Jeff
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
See I already knew the backup strategy was crap
]] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
just jumping in late here but why not play this the other way, ask him
for permission to run a DR drill using the take home drive. Invite him
to play, then when it fails yo
Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
I quite agree, you seem to be missing the point that the backup strategy is
crap, and it's not due to hard disk transportation issues. I think you have
the ammo you were after, now use it!
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From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[
Why is he taking it home? Is he concerned about fire/theft or corruption?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Natkin
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware
If you really do
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> Why is he taking it home? Is he concerned about fire/theft or
> corruption?
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There's no maybe about it - it just is what it is. It won't work.
Great books your company makes btw! ;)
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From: Daniel Kleinsinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardwa
www.benchmarktape.com Valusmart
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From: Bubba G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup hardware
For those on the Yahoogroups list, my apologies for the d
I use a VXA tape drive and backup exec. Find them at vxa.com
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bubba G
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup hardware
For those on the Yahoogroups list, my apolo
> What are you using for hardware? I have 2 dedicated servers
For my own personal network, I have a scheduled task that backups (using
NTBACKUP) up my Exchange/DC/file server to a file on spare drive on
another machine. I have a spare drive just for this purpose (they are
sooo cheap now.)
I bo
, 2002 11:19 AM
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Subject: RE: Backup hardware
I use a VXA tape drive and backup exec. Find them at vxa.com
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bubba G
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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product.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bubba G
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup hardware
I saw the Exabyte VXA-2 drives and they appear to be quick (8MPS), large
(80/160), decent media pric
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, at 10:45am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the best/most reliable 60/120 hardware (and software you are using
> for it if it is not NTBackup) for those on a budget out there now?
Aside from Veritas Backup Exec, you can look at NovaNet from NovaStor.
We use both, and fin
ide, and I don't have to buy at least two tape drives plus media.
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup hardware
We've been using the VXA-1 drives for about 2
:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup hardware
I'm thinking of going to the USB2 external drive system for offsite storage,
I can put together an 80mb system for under $200, and have 5 rotatable drives
for about a grand. Except that the drives are a bit more heavy and sensiti
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, at 10:17am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm thinking of going to the USB2 external drive system for offsite
> storage ...
Check the speed of the unit (throughput in actual use, not the speed of
the HDD, or the IDE interface, or the USB2 interface) before you make a
purchase.
r 04, 2002 12:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup hardware
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, at 10:17am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm thinking of going to the USB2 external drive system for offsite
> storage ...
Check the speed of the unit (throughput in actual use, not th
Not unlike some employees.
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> I'm thinking of going to the
Let's see. Not backing so you activated circular logging. Wrong. There are
many good solutions out there. In the mean time start using NTbackup at
least, till you decide.
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From: "Bubba G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesda
t it for now and decided to
continue to look at the tape drives.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup hardware
Good idea. I expect to do these in the middle of the ni
, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Backup hardware
Let's see. Not backing so you activated circular logging. Wrong. There
are many good solutions out there. In the mean time start using NTbackup
at least, till you decide.
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From: "Bubba
Hmmm, $264 today, I'll have to watch closer...what part of the DR
routine do you think would be made more complex?
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From: Bubba G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup hardware
Yeah, BU
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Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup hardware
Hmmm, $264 today, I'll have to watch closer...what part of the DR
routine do you think would be made more complex?
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From: Bubba G [mailto:[EMA
y Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA
> -Original Message-
> From: Bubba G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:41 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backup hardware
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> Yes, that was BUY.COM's "Price Mismatch o
age-
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:48 PM
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> Good idea. I expect to do these in the middle of the night,
> but that's
> still important if
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