RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-11-04 Thread Roger Seielstad
CSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt@;bhi-erc.com] > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > &g

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-11-03 Thread Randall Yoo
Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Actually, its not WINS/DNS. Its routing. Many VPN clients don't use straight routing, they shim the IP stack and intercept packets on their way to the routing engine (Cisco is a prime ex

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2002-11-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
That's pretty cool. I wish it covered SQL as well. -Original Message- From: Roger Haxton [mailto:RHaxton@;suretel.net] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook The core CAL has replaced the BackOffice CAL.

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2002-11-01 Thread Roger Haxton
November 01, 2002 10:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook URL? -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt@;bhi-erc.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I didn't even know what

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2002-11-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
URL? -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt@;bhi-erc.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I didn't even know what a core CAL was, until you posted it. I've found it on the MS web sit

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2002-11-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
I never heard of one. What's the approx cost? -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt@;bhi-erc.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I didn't even know what a core CAL was, until you

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2002-11-01 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
o pick one. Why can't they just give out the information, without making you sift through 15,000 web pages??!! What can you tell me? -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 4:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:

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2002-11-01 Thread Tener, Richard
Yes I have wins set up on the ras server. -Original Message- From: Allan Johnson [mailto:allan@;teaminfo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook OK confusion and headache aside from trying to visualize your environment from

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2002-11-01 Thread Drew Nicholson
chard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Yes I can connect to the vpn and read email from the exchange server. I can find the exchange server if I look for it through search for computers on network. W

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2002-11-01 Thread Roger Seielstad
om] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:48 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Ah...but that's okay. I'm already at Win2k or XP on all my > clients and > servers. The upgrade to SP3 from Win2k SP2 is free. > > And it&#

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-31 Thread Martin Blackstone
Meow -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:byron@;markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I'm sorry, I'm not following you, but would like to help. Have the cat who built the vpn contact me o

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2002-10-31 Thread Allan Johnson
students and there is no off topic subjects as long as it involves an MS product in some way. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Yes I can connect to the vpn

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2002-10-31 Thread Byron Kennedy
I'm sorry, I'm not following you, but would like to help. Have the cat who built the vpn contact me off-line if you want. L8r-byron -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subjec

RE: VPN breaks Outlook . Now: Mongo Netbios

2002-10-31 Thread Etts, Russell
This is easy Shut down your firewall, your proxy and run a straight T1 into the building. Thanks Russell -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:davida@;vss.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook . Now: Mongo

RE: VPN breaks Outlook . Now: Mongo Netbios

2002-10-31 Thread Andy David
What the heck are you talking about? -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Yes I can connect to the vpn and read email from the exchange server. I can find

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2002-10-31 Thread Tener, Richard
would appreciate it. thanks rich ps sorry for hijacking this thread. -Original Message- From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:byron@;markettools.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Does the vpn work in general from behind the

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2002-10-31 Thread Ed Crowley
:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Does anyone know what port I would have to open on my sonic wall to let people browse the network over the vpn. If i bypass my firewall at home i can search for computers on my the network but if i dont i cannot find any computers

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2002-10-31 Thread Ed Crowley
[mailto:bounce-exchange-94760@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Drew Nicholson Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Well, first you go buy a copy of Exchange 5.5 Enterprise (is that even possible anymore?) Then, you go to here: http:

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-31 Thread Ed Crowley
: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook 640 Megs ought to be enough for anyone. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:davida@;vss.com] Posted At: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:24 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: VPN breaks Outlook Subject: RE: VPN breaks

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2002-10-31 Thread Dan Bartley
ssage- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:MBlackstone@;superioraccess.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook You may as well just take out the firewall if this is what you want to do. And no, im not joking. -Original Message-

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2002-10-31 Thread Martin Blackstone
Wait a second. I read this wrong. Why cant your users browse the network over the VPN and what does the FW have to do with it? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook You may as well

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2002-10-31 Thread Martin Blackstone
You may as well just take out the firewall if this is what you want to do. And no, im not joking. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Does anyone know

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2002-10-31 Thread Byron Kennedy
Does the vpn work in general from behind the firewall? Do other protocols like icmp work? Is the vpn site-to-site or client-gateway? -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN

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2002-10-31 Thread Allan Johnson
an.com/netbios.html offers a good explanation of Netbios over TCP with NAT also many links to trouble shooting he same. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Does anyon

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2002-10-31 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
I think it starts with 135. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:RTener@;midship.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Does anyone know what port I would have to open on my sonic wall to let people browse the

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-31 Thread Tener, Richard
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Would you like me to give you an example? > > we are a hosting company. Customers connect to our Exc

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2002-10-31 Thread Darcy Adams
sions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook That would only be required to use all the functionality. You'll be able to use OL11 against your Linux-based mail server if you want. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Blunt, Ja

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2002-10-31 Thread Hanna, Keith
Cisco ACS integrates with AD -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] Sent: 30 October 2002 17:18 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Is there a way to use RADIUS in conjunction with Active Directory? I mean, having to maintain

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2002-10-31 Thread Andrea Coppini
That's what IAS (Internet Authentication Server/Service) does. It's part of Win2K Server and above. > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: 30 October 2002 6:18 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Ely, Don
HA!!! I are no Socialist!!! :P -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:DNicholson@;rapidapp.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Someone's calling Don a socialist??? :P Drew Nicholson Technical W

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2002-10-30 Thread Ben Schorr
gt; From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:22 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > I am pretty sure you are correct. > > -Original Message----- > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:bms@;hawa

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 4:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Hell, they're going to make you upgrade to W2K Sp3 or XP for Office 11 too... -Original Message- From: Blun

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2002-10-30 Thread William Lefkovics
I'd certainly be happy with that at the moment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tom Meunier Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 4:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook 640 Megs ought

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2002-10-30 Thread Tom Meunier
640 Megs ought to be enough for anyone. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:davida@;vss.com] Posted At: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:24 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: VPN breaks Outlook Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook The paperclip requires a minimum of

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2002-10-30 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Ok...slight gaff/typo on my part. Should have read REDHAT Linux 8.0 -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:domitianx@;domitianx.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Well you will be waiting a while to move to

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2002-10-30 Thread Drew Nicholson
26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Not at all you socialist bastard. ;) > -Original Message- > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Drew Nicholson
Edit -Original Message- From: Manderino, Mike [mailto:mmanderino@;destinyhealth.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook 1) Urgent!! need to upgrade to Exchange 5.5 Enterprise. What is involved? Will this mess up my

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2002-10-30 Thread William Lefkovics
er 30, 2002 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook MS is going to force us to go to a .NET/Titanium platform in order to use OL11?! How freakin' stupid is that? It's a great marketing strategy, but I can't believe that they wouldn't make it backwards

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2002-10-30 Thread Andy David
The paperclip requires a minimum of 512 Mg of ram. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Hell, they're going to make you upgrade to W2K Sp3 or XP for O

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Ely, Don
Hell, they're going to make you upgrade to W2K Sp3 or XP for Office 11 too... -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt@;bhi-erc.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook MS is going to force us to

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
o! Phhhppptt! > > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:22 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > I am pretty sure you are correct. > > -Original

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2002-10-30 Thread David Strome
00 until around 2015. -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:jhblunt@;bhi-erc.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook MS is going to force us to go to a .NET/Titanium platform in order to use OL11?! How freakin' stup

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2002-10-30 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
hange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Well you will be waiting a while to move to Linux 8 seeing as they are only on 2.4.19 right now. It will be quite a while before they get to version 8. -Mike http://www.uselessthoughts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > From: Blunt, J

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2002-10-30 Thread Mike Carlson
scussions > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:36 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > MS is going to force us to go to a .NET/Titanium platform in order to use > OL11?! > > How freakin' stupid is that? It's a great mar

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2002-10-30 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I am pretty sure you are correct. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:bms@;hawaiilawyer.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Yes, but I believe it requi

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
I am pretty sure you are correct. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:bms@;hawaiilawyer.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Yes, but I believe it requires Titanium on the server side too. You can't run

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2002-10-30 Thread Ben Schorr
:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:59 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Something like MAPI over http as announced for Outlook 11? > Maybe, but given the large install base of Outlook 97 still > out ther

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
once. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:05 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE

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2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
lol. Anytime. > -Original Message- > From: Harmon, Michelle M. [mailto:Michelle.M.Harmon@;conoco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:25 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > DAMN. That was GOOD. > > Next project

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Ahh, allright then I don't have to pretend like I have not heard about it :) I thought it was still the NDA-protected topic. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Well, then I guess they will have an incentive to upgrade - upgrade to 2000 or we will have to charge you extra for VPN :) -Original Message- From: David J. Culliton [mailto:David@;Typedletters.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN

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2002-10-30 Thread Harmon, Michelle M.
DAMN. That was GOOD. Next project I'm on, will you write my docs? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Hence my assertion that the inves

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:10 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Nice thought perhaps but it won't help those users running > any OS other than 2000 and XP > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_sc

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2002-10-30 Thread Byron Kennedy
nge Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Has it been announced? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Something like MAPI over http as announced

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2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
ns > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Has it been announced? > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:59 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outloo

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread David J. Culliton
Nice thought perhaps but it won't help those users running any OS other than 2000 and XP -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Something like

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Has it been announced? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Something like MAPI over http as announced for Outlook 11? Maybe, but given the large

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
2002 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Multiple VPN can get ugly. Most clients can't handle it. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA >

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2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
; From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:53 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Hypothetically, if Microsoft came out with new technology > that would make MAPI obsolete (something like &g

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2002-10-30 Thread Ely, Don
2002 2:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Hypothetically, if Microsoft came out with new technology that would make MAPI obsolete (something like front-end/back-end OWA with all the features of Outlook), would you then toss out the VPN and stop charging customers for

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2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
o:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:56 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Do you offer one universal VPN to all customers or do they > get a VPN that best matches their client capabilities? Do > they set up

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2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
n-VPN customers. At least off the cuff anyway. > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:56 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Do you offer one universal

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
then if I invest in VPN technologies it would be a waste of money. -Original Message- From: Julian Stone [mailto:julian.stone@;netstore.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook We also "allow" Mapi across the int

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2002-10-30 Thread David Strome
besides, if you have your DNS servers configured properly, it's harder to get that info than doing a port scan. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Ou

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2002-10-30 Thread Mike Putley
We do that, our VPN runs against radius and that gets its authentication from AD -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Yeah. I think its called IAS

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook We also "allow" Mapi across the internet, but with VPN systems for those customers who are willing to pay for the added security. Some customers have even requested & got non HTTPS OWA access, where their password is sent in clear text !!

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2002-10-30 Thread Julian Stone
.htm HomePage: http://www.netstore.net/ -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] Sent: 30 October 2002 17:22 pm To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Been like this for 2 years now. Of course I always look for ways to make

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
It's a tough market. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I'm not discounting the fact that they want the collaborative features, I'm mer

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2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > I'm not discounting the fact that they want the collaborative > features, I'm > merely saying that security "sh

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2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:18 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Is there a way to use RADIUS in conjunction with Active > Directory? I mean, having to maintain another database is

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
istrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:57 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Who

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2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
Not at all you socialist bastard. ;) > -Original Message- > From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Yeah... That's too bad really.

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Been like this for 2 years now. Of course I always look for ways to make it better and safer. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook When your goal

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2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
charff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:08 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > A port scan of an IP range will tell them more than enough > with or without > DNS entries. > > > -Original

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2002-10-30 Thread Ely, Don
ober 30, 2002 12:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Our premise is that we allow all customers to use MAPI Outlook. No one wants to only use OWA or POP3 or IMAP. They want all the (collaboration) features of Exchange/Outlook as per Microsoft's promotional materi

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2002-10-30 Thread Ely, Don
Yeah... That's too bad really... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook When your goal is to sell as many seats as possible @ $9.95 each, yo

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
[mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook RADIUS is just another authentication database - specifically geared towards remote access. Most ISPs use either it or TACACS if they are all Cisco

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2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
imple and less expensive POP3 provider. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook But as an ASP wouldn't you just charge more for the services??? Maybe I&#x

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2002-10-30 Thread Ely, Don
Whether or not you publish the info is a moot point. All someone has to do is know your IP Block... -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I

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2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
A port scan of an IP range will tell them more than enough with or without DNS entries. > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:43 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook

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2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
4 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > But as an ASP wouldn't you just charge more for the > services??? Maybe I'm just being blind, but I would think > one would want to provide a more secure solution. Of course, > added costs

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2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
- MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:43 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook >

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2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Thanks I will take a look at that. Never p

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Ely, Don
1:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook All right, if you say so. You are smarter than me. Congrats. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outloo

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
I understand. I'd rather not publish the info. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook So what? You still own your domain. For instance, set

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Who do you use? -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Frankly, I consider that piss-poor engineering. I guess that's part of why I've n

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
I am the one that has to deal with 10-20% and listen to their b!tching. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I believe he meant that they couldn&#

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook Users don't need to have their own DNS, they simply have to add this setting to the TCP/IP stack DNS settings on the client. It offers a number of advantages over a host or lmhost file including the ability to move users between servers or re-IP mac

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Ely, Don
Hmmm... I was basing my theory on him using MAPI to connect and there aren't any non-Windows MAPI apps that I'm aware of... -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subjec

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Ely, Don
al Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I can seee some instances where the support costs related to helping Windows 95 users install and configure VPN might m

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:42 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > >

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Check with Mi8 or Intermedia. They use HOSTS file too (not > LMhosts) I think Mi8 has a special little VB app that they > give to their customers - it runs and modifies the HOSTS file > to include the name and IP

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
2002 11:14 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with a RADIUS > server would > fit your needs quite well... > > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhos

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
I don't want to publish the back-end Exchange servers in DNS for all the hackers to see. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook How are

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Thanks I will take a look at that. Never played with RADIUS before. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
n the users machines. > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:12 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > OK, I agree, but some of them don't even have

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
I am not their ISP. -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook They don't have to have their own DNS, if you're the service provider, provid

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Roger Seielstad
ty Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:17 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > Check with Mi8 or Intermedia. They use HOSTS file too

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Chris Scharff
o:dely@;TripathImaging.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:14 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook > > > I would disagree with that... A VPN solution with a RADIUS > server would fit your needs quite well... > > -Original Message- > Fro

RE: VPN breaks Outlook

2002-10-30 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
They have their own ISPs. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: VPN breaks Outlook How are they getting to the Internet then? Publish a host in your domain

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