Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread James Wells
) From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2009 10:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Mailbox limits are 300MB warning, 320MB no send, 350MB no send/receive. Am I being to strict??? I also

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Maglinger, Paul
-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange archiving On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? Because it's a database app with performance limits as opposed to a file server. [This message is somewhat

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Maglinger, Paul
I was wondering what Bill Gates used to haul manure for his garden... :-) From: Steve Szabo [mailto:steve...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving But, a Lamborghini is a truck. See http

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread James Rankin
Subject: Re: Exchange archiving On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? Because it's a database app with performance limits as opposed to a file server. [This message is somewhat vague theory

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread James Wells
- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 6:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange archiving On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? Because it's

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Maglinger, Paul
That's when you pull out the Sarbox documentation... From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange archiving I am going to use that response next time my CEO tells me I

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Issues Subject: Re: Exchange archiving All true..though not completely honest comparisons. If there's a business requirement, size the solution and tell the business how much it costs. Simply telling people I know you spent thousands/millions, but I won't help you store files in a way that's easy

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Campbell, Rob
- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Not intending to delve into the vagaries of the ESE implementation; however, it is worthwhile to note that Exchange 2007 changed database

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: I am going to use that response next time my CEO tells me I have to adapt my systems to his requirements, like when he wants to have a password policy for himself that is less stringent than anyone else's :-) That's

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:  Sometimes one has to adapt to the limitation of a system, but when possible, it's better to adapt the system to better do the job. Okay... I want to use my car to go 85 mph down the highway, but I have people telling

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread John Cook
Subject: RE: Exchange archiving That's not true. I will help them store files in a way for the business to understand, but using the hardware and the software that was designed for that purpose. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:jam...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:34 AM

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Maglinger, Paul
And the problem with that is...? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange archiving On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: I am going

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread John Cook
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving And the problem with that is...? -Original Message- From: Ben Scott

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Michael B. Smith
I'm in 100% agreement with that. From: Campbell, Rob [rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 8:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving My biggest complaint with using it as data storage isn't

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: I strongly suspect SOx is simply commonly used as a convenient justification for implementing better password practices. And the problem with that is...? Nothing, unless the CEO catches you at it. :) -- Ben ~

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread Don Andrews
An illegal alien gardener. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I was wondering what Bill Gates used to haul manure for his garden

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread William Lefkovics
. By the way, I agree with everything you said, except the absoluteness of its presentation. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving My biggest dig is that if you email

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-07 Thread John Cook
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I don't see file system storage access for companies very often anymore. Oh sure

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
, 2009 10:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Yes I do __ Stefan Jafs From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: May-05-09 9:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I have

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Mailbox limits are 300MB warning, 320MB no send, 350MB no send/receive. Am I being to strict??? I also have deleted item retention set for 14 days. I figured these are pretty typical limits? From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Louis, Joe
Least it's not forever /snicker From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Limits here are 2Gb, lots of large proposals with large pdf attachments that people need to keep for 100 years (joke

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
True :) but way past my lifetime! ___ Stefan Jafs From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Least it's not forever /snicker From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Mailbox limits are 300MB warning, 320MB no send, 350MB no send/receive. Am I being to strict??? I also have deleted item retention set for 14 days. I figured these are pretty typical limits? From

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
average of 190 users is 260Mb but almost all are archived. ___ Stefan Jafs From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Nope, not in my opinion... 60MB warn

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
are for. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving How many users what industry? For many users Outlook is the application they use 90% of the time as long as you have

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
WOW. What size is/are the store(s)? From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving 400 users, retail. Outlook is a very nice application to keep track

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving How many users what industry? For many users Outlook is the application they use 90% of the time as long as you have the storage and capacity why severely

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
About 38GB. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving WOW. What size is/are the store(s)? From

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
[mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Stefan, Do you find with these high limits that users get outlook is trying to retrieve data from the microsoft exchange server message? As I've increased our limits

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Aha! Here it is... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc535025.aspx From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving There was an article brought

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Stefan, Do you find with these high limits that users get outlook is trying to retrieve data from the microsoft exchange server message? As I've increased our limits, I see this more and more (cached and non cached clients, local

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
Yes most of my users are using many subfolders so the 5,000 limit is not a problem, ___ Stefan Jafs From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Aha! Here

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Aha! Here it is... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc535025.aspx From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:01

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread William Lefkovics
As long as they are not using 5000 subfolders. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Yes most of my users are using many subfolders so the 5,000 limit is not a problem

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
Some are getting close, no seriously many have 100 + subfolders. ___ Stefan Jafs From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving As long

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Don Andrews
archiving Least it's not forever /snicker From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Limits here are 2Gb, lots of large proposals with large pdf attachments that people need to keep

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Don Andrews
-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Nope, not in my opinion... 60MB warn 70MB no send 80MB no receive except if your an exec, then 200MB limitation The Exchange server is NOT a file server... From: David Mazzaccaro

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Don Andrews
I'll echo that - we're about 60K+ users - retail also. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving 400 users, retail. Outlook is a very nice

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Atta boy Don! From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving We tell 'em - save the attachment, delete the email - email is not a file transfer system nor

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread William Lefkovics
Here, it is both a file transfer system and a storage system accessed through a PIM portal (Outlook in most cases). From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving We tell 'em - save

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
archiving Here, it is both a file transfer system and a storage system accessed through a PIM portal (Outlook in most cases). From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving We tell 'em - save

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:27 AM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com wrote: Mailbox limits are 300MB warning, 320MB no send,  350MB no send/receive. Am I being to strict??? Does it meet your business requirements? If it does, then you're not being too strict. It's all about

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:32, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:  We've found that creating a separate hard disk partition and putting the OST (and just the OST) on that partition helps a lot.  I suspect part of that is filesystem fragmentation.  The Windows defrag utility can't cope with

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread will...@lefkovics.net
and it isn't 1995. We expect 6 and 8 TB drives by 2013. From: Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Exchange archiving

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread John Cook
06 14:03:01 2009 Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I have no idea why that question would be relevant. I am really just playing devil's advocate and I don't have the big company issues that Don has at safeway. But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? Especially

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
. From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I have no idea why that question would be relevant. I am really just playing devil's advocate and I don't have the big

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Jason Gurtz
But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? The transfer problem may never be solved--at least until SMTP v2 comes out--but I bet if Exchange had a feature like SQL 2008's FILESTREAM then storage would no longer be an issue. Or maybe yEnc MIME extension will gain traction

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Moss, Susan K
Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving IMHO, using a mailbox for data storage is bad practice because data files are departmental, and belong on a file server in a departmental data directory that's permanent and is designed for data storage. Mailboxes are personal, and are usually

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread will...@lefkovics.net
Indeed... it is far better than a lowly file server. From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Exchange archiving Because it's a database

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread William Lefkovics
06, 2009 11:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving IMHO, using a mailbox for data storage is bad practice because data files are departmental, and belong on a file server in a departmental data directory that's permanent and is designed for data storage. Mailboxes

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread John Cook
Defraged your DB lately?? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: will...@lefkovics.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Wed May 06 14:51:02 2009 Subject: Re: Exchange archiving

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
. From: Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I've got users that do that. I ask them if they have a file cabinet

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Heh... not here. Exported to PST, burned to CD and stashed away somewhere... From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving IMHO, using

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
So you're trading a filing cabinet for a trash compactor... From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Indeed, we shouldn't limit storage to one's

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Don Andrews
:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving In some companies mailboxes are not personal - that data is the property of the company and may be preserved for as long as deemed necessary. From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
access to that mailbox, and found a bunch of stuff they shouldn't have had access to. From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Here they are personal

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Brian Dwyer
) From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2009 10:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Mailbox limits are 300MB warning, 320MB no send, 350MB no send/receive. Am I being to strict??? I also have deleted item

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Sean Martin
:* Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:56 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Exchange archiving Indeed, we shouldn’t limit storage to one’s mailbox. Exchange 2010 brings a sort of tiered mailbox to the picture with rudimentary archiving. It’s like storing your archive.pst on the Exchange

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Louis, Joe
, 2009 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Indeed, we shoul�t limit storage to one���s mailbox. Exchange 2010 brings a sort of tiered mailbox to the picture with rudimentary archiving. It���s like storing your archive.pst on the Exchange Server. From

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Glaman, Mark
AM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: Exchange archiving Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Mailbox limits are 300MB warning, 320MB no send, 350MB no send/receive. Am I being to strict??? I also have deleted item retention set for 14 days. I figured these are pretty typical limits

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? Because it's a database app with performance limits as opposed to a file server. [This message is somewhat vague theory, somewhat devil's advocate, and

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
versions, allocated fixed files and managed them for the same reason (I don't know whether that is still an option or not). From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange archiving

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Steve Szabo
: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? A Bugatti isn't a semi-truck either. _ From: will...@lefkovics.net

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
That registry is well out of date..:) From: Steve Szabo [mailto:steve...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving But, a Lamborghini is a truck. See http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/LM002/index.html and http

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 17:22, Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com wrote: Not intending to delve into the vagaries of the ESE implementation; however, it is worthwhile to note that Exchange 2007 changed database internals to flatten the database and increase table performance;

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
before... From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange archiving On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 17:22, Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com wrote: Not intending to delve

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread Eric Hanna
In my experience, the load on the Exchange server tends to depend on how many mailboxes are being journaled, the amount of journaling mailboxes, and how much traffic is being ran through the Exchange server. Based on these factors, I would say you will probably see about a 5-15% increase in

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread David Mazzaccaro
be archived (moved out of the store) thus reducing the size, and allowing for lower mailbox limits? Thx From: Eric Hanna [mailto:eri...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread Eric Hanna
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Thanks for the reply. We have just started discussing archiving, and while compliancy is a goal, I suppose it would be nice

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread Don Guyer
Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Thanks for the reply. We have just started discussing archiving, and while

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread James Wells
Every article I've seen that describes horrible performance seems to be talking about having the journal mailbox on the same Exchange server as the mailboxes being journaled. In my experience, journaling should only be turned on if you have a compliance reason to do so. If that's the case, let

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread James Wells
: Exchange archiving In my experience, the load on the Exchange server tends to depend on how many mailboxes are being journaled, the amount of journaling mailboxes, and how much traffic is being ran through the Exchange server. Based on these factors, I would say you will probably see about a 5

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread Don Andrews
: Exchange archiving Every article I've seen that describes horrible performance seems to be talking about having the journal mailbox on the same Exchange server as the mailboxes being journaled. In my experience, journaling should only be turned on if you have a compliance reason to do so. If that's

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread John Cook
] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange archiving Messages taken out are just going to leave you with whitespace. While most of that space will be reused (thus reducing the growth of the store over time), it will never reduce the size of the store

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread James Wells
that not all environments are equal. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:jam...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange archiving Every article I've seen that describes horrible performance seems to be talking about

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread Stefan Jafs
Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Thanks for the reply. We have just started discussing archiving, and while compliancy is a goal, I suppose it would be nice to reduce the size of the store. I would think that once you have enabled any archiving solution, you will be reducing your store? Won't

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread David Mazzaccaro
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I have recently installed the SEA solution. I'm impressed, everything works, we had a bit of a challenge with RPC / HTTP, we had to get another certificate etc. but it's all good now and I had any help I needed from Sunbelt. The setup

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread Stefan Jafs
: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving That's good to hear. I have about 160 users and currently have a 24GB store. What kind of hardware is SEA running on? processor, storage? How long

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread Bob Fronk
I have about 130 users and a 250GB store Wow.. you must have some strict limits set. Bob From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving That's good to hear. I have about 160

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread Ben D. Kusa
Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I have about 130 users and a 250GB store Wow.. you must have some strict limits set. Bob From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving That's

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-05 Thread Stefan Jafs
Yes I do __ Stefan Jafs From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: May-05-09 9:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving I have about 130 users and a 250GB store Wow.. you must have some strict limits set. Bob

RE: Exchange Archiving

2008-10-29 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Mailarchiva (open source) I have about 35 boxes to do, and this looks great! I can set the retention in Exchange short to keep the DB's small and push everything into this. Anyone running this that cares to share some setup notes, caveats or anything? I plan to set it up on CentOS in a VM.

RE: Exchange Archiving

2008-10-29 Thread Eric Hanna
As I haven't looked into what Mailarchiva is or how Mailarchiva works, I was just doing some research on their website. It looks like you want to go with the Open Source version. According to their documentation, as how I read it, that might not be available to do all of your 35 mailboxes

Re: Exchange Archiving

2008-10-29 Thread Kurt Buff
Both seem to be based on Message Journalling - it's just that their Enterprise version can to talk with multiple Message Journalling mailboxes on different Exchange servers, while the Open Source or Community version can only do one server with one Message Journalling mailbox. That should be

RE: Exchange Archiving

2008-10-29 Thread Eric Hanna
Services Specialist Sunbelt Software -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Archiving Both seem to be based on Message Journalling - it's just that their Enterprise version can

RE: Exchange Archiving

2008-10-27 Thread Kennedy, Jim
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Archiving Joe, It depends a bit on the amount of mailboxes. If you get to 100+ a real enterprise strength solution is something you should at least consider, so here are the specs of our

RE: Exchange Archiving

2008-10-26 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
Mailarchiva (open source) Mailarchiver (gfi) Readily available web based archiving system, keeps the store smaller, and allows users to retrieve and search their own archived mail. Also, in the case of GFI's product it seems the database for the same amount of mail is smaller (than exchange

RE: Exchange Archiving

2008-10-26 Thread Stu Sjouwerman
Joe, It depends a bit on the amount of mailboxes. If you get to 100+ a real enterprise strength solution is something you should at least consider, so here are the specs of our Exchange Archiver: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/Sunbelt-Exchange-Archiver/ Warm regards, Stu

Re: Exchange Archiving

2008-10-26 Thread Don Ely
GFI might be decent for a small environment but it sucks donkey balls with teeth for medium to large environments. On 10/26/08, Benjamin Zachary - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mailarchiva (open source) Mailarchiver (gfi) Readily available web based archiving system, keeps the store

RE: Exchange Archiving

2008-10-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange Archiving GFI might be decent for a small environment but it sucks donkey balls with teeth for medium to large environments. On 10/26/08, Benjamin Zachary - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mailarchiva (open