Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-18 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 01:22, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:11, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: You'll like this Lyvim... I've known for a while that my everything server cum router cum wife's workstation was overheating, but it's only been a major problem (e.g. interrupting task at hand)

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-18 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 07:30, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 01:22, Jack Coates wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:11, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: You'll like this Lyvim... I've known for a while that my everything server cum router cum wife's workstation was overheating, but it's

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 01:07, James Sparenberg wrote: Really. Interesting. Must be one heck of a magnet to handle the torque and thrust of the fan eh? Just a thought here. But if you think about it torque and thrust for the spinning fan (assuming a constant speed) will be almost 0. If

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 13:53, James Sparenberg wrote: I think by bearingless they actually do mean sealed bearing. It's more a case of marketing taking a technical term and misusing it to the point of extreme obfuscation of term (ie Trusted Computing by M$) rather than what it actually

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 01:07, James Sparenberg wrote: This is not the same thing. This is new bearingless technology. It utilizes something called a magnetic tip. My understanding is that the fan blade is suspended by a magnetic field. Really. Interesting. Must be one heck of a

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 03:45, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Got some new news. Looks like you were right James; on all counts. It's basically a little gyro that uses the weight at the edges of the fan (magnets) to resist movement off it's plane of operation. Also, they do actually have small ball

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread J.C. Woods
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I've got one now in my hand. The magnets that actually turn the fan are on the outside edge that joins all the blade tips together in a circle. They don't ever actually touch anything. The center point seems to be the magnetic tip. But I can't confirm that without

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday July 16 2003 08:14 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a hint of problem. Jeez, I could

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 06:01, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday July 16 2003 08:14 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 17 July 2003 03:19 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: But the problem is that they specifically describe the bearing as magnetic tip driven. In addition to that they also say bearingless. This to me is inescapable verbage. LX Almost sounds like the monorail magnet concept. Or like the

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:11, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 14:11, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: I had a system that was experiencing periodic lockups recently. Turns out the cpu temps were creeping up to around 78C. Improving the case cooling brought the temp down to around

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
I'm not really worried about the temp...having read the docs from AMD, I won't worry till it hits 65C, which it has never done :) I'm not worried about the temp too, but I'm worried about the HD. If it reaches 45°C, you have to do something. In fact, I'm thinking to buy a case fan

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 21.11 15/07/2003, you wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. It is possible to get a better thermal resistance with another HSF, but not without going to a bearing based fan, and

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Thomas K. Gamble
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 09:16 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 02:11 pm, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: Anyone know which mbs have the core temp sensors? It's the processor that has the sensor, the motherboard must have the ability to read it, and then libsensors has to be able to

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Thomas K. Gamble
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 01:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: But you can chill those puppies and you might be able to get stability under high load with no problem. What I would do is install two Vantec Areoflow heat sink fans (they have copper cores, surrounded by a block of machined aluminum)

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 06:24, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 01:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: But you can chill those puppies and you might be able to get stability under high load with no problem. What I would do is install two Vantec Areoflow heat sink fans (they have

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 01:21, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: I'm not really worried about the temp...having read the docs from AMD, I won't worry till it hits 65C, which it has never done :) I'm not worried about the temp too, but I'm worried about the HD. If it reaches 45°C, you have to do

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 06:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well, bearingless. If you are referring to the old bushing fans,

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 13:45, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 06:24, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: HSF's that outperform the Areoflow don't do it by a significant margin and plus they weigh a ton cause usually they are solid copper. That can possibly put a physical strain on the

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread diego
Which mark and model? I'm really concerned about noise and temp... I'm running a XP 1800+ (1500MHz) downclocked to 1100MHz in summer (40ºC in the room!). To me it's quite acceptable cpu temp go up to 60ºC at full load with a noise less than 40dB El mié, 16-07-2003 a las 15:59, Lorne

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Richard Bown
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 17:04, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well,

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday July 16 2003 01:20 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: I'm reminded of a story from a friend of mine. Had a HDD overheat. Couldn't read it. Stuck it in the freezer overnight. And then it would work for about 30 minutes. Stick it back in the freezer... read off more data. About 5 or 6

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 05:34 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.2mdk (rpm) [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a hint of

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday July 16 2003 05:58 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: hddtemp-0.3-0.beta4.2mdk (rpm) [root /tom] $ hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 67°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 47°C I don't know whether to believe this output or not. They're good performing HDD's, not a

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 14:34, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday July 16 2003 01:20 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: I'm reminded of a story from a friend of mine. Had a HDD overheat. Couldn't read it. Stuck it in the freezer overnight. And then it would work for about 30 minutes. Stick it back

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Lorne
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 09:04 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well,

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Lorne
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 08:38 am, diego wrote: Which mark and model? I'm really concerned about noise and temp... Well first I have to thank you! I went to look and realized that my fan filter was plugged with dust! I don't have any special brands, I just looked for ball bearing muffin fans.

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread Lorne
On Wednesday 16 July 2003 10:53 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 06:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and ultimately reliable because they are, well,

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-16 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 19:57, Lorne wrote: On Wednesday 16 July 2003 09:04 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:59, Lorne wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:11 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: The Areoflows have bearingless fans which are some of the quietest in the industry, and

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-15 Thread Thomas K. Gamble
On Thursday 10 July 2003 09:51 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday July 10 2003 09:19 am, Jack Coates wrote: Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 14:11, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: I had a system that was experiencing periodic lockups recently. Turns out the cpu temps were creeping up to around 78C. Improving the case cooling brought the temp down to around 63C under load. Still not ideal, but the system is in

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-15 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday July 15 2003 01:11 pm, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: Anyone know which mbs have the core temp sensors? From reading, not experience a few Asus, Gigabyte and a coupl'a others for new AMD XP's. IIRC, I read it to Tom's Hardware Guide. Check there or Google. -- Tom Brinkman

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-15 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 02:11 pm, Thomas K. Gamble wrote: Anyone know which mbs have the core temp sensors? It's the processor that has the sensor, the motherboard must have the ability to read it, and then libsensors has to be able to translate it. For instance, my Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-11 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3599 days Robert Crawford wrote: On Friday 11 July 2003 12:35 am, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3599 days James Sparenberg wrote: Vox, Last ditch if you get worried. open the side and put a small desk fan right on it. From the hardware standpoint. make sure

RE: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-11 Thread Frankie
... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Crawford Sent: Friday, 11 July 2003 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] CPU temperature question On Friday 11 July 2003 12:35 am, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3599

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-11 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3600 days Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I considered the Volcano 7 and the Volcano 9 in the following URL while doing research on HSF's, before I purchased one, and although their results were impressive the reason I went with the Areoflow was because it beat those two, plus the

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-11 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 00:15, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:55, Vox wrote: The stock fan that comes with the Athlon is not the best deal in the world. The real deal is a Vantec Areoflow VA4-C7040. That's a fantastic piece of engineering, and it doesn't cost an arm

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-11 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 22:48, Vox wrote: It's been my experience with numerous AMD cpus that anything over 45c. is likely to start causing random misc. problems. I always start feeling apprehensive when my temps go above 40c. Why AMD states up to 90c. is beyond me. The one time I got

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-11 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 00:55, Robert Crawford wrote: On Friday 11 July 2003 12:35 am, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3599 days James Sparenberg wrote: Vox, Last ditch if you get worried. open the side and put a small desk fan right on it. From the hardware standpoint. make sure

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-11 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3600 days Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 00:55, Robert Crawford wrote: On Friday 11 July 2003 12:35 am, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3599 days James Sparenberg wrote: Vox, Last ditch if you get worried. open the side and put a small desk fan

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hehe :) Got a Hush-PC on my Desk, M1 with nemiah Core. Actual Processing tempoerature: 57 C :) Didn't manage to get the lm_sensors stuff working on my Asus A7N8X Delux board - so can't tell you what I'll see on my AMD box. Cheers Joerg Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hehe :) Got a Hush-PC on my Desk, M1 with nemiah Core. Actual Processing tempoerature: 57 C :) Didn't manage to get the lm_sensors stuff working on my Asus A7N8X Delux board - so can't tell you what I'll see on my AMD box. As for nForce2 lm_sensors

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Seppo Jarvinen
My main computer with AMD Duron 1.3GHz (Morgan core) is now running with CPU Temp 43C, MB temp 33C, ambient room temp 23C with 100% cpu load ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Cooling is handled by 1 19dB 80mm fan in front as intake, 1 24dB 80mm in back as out. and CPU cooler is Speeze RaptorCool I. The

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Joerg Mertin
Cool news. Thx for notifying us :) Cheers Joerg Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hehe :) Got a Hush-PC on my Desk, M1 with nemiah Core. Actual Processing tempoerature: 57 C :) Didn't manage to get the lm_sensors stuff working on my Asus A7N8X Delux board - so

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread ed tharp
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:38, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday July 10 2003 05:52 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were quite a bit higher during Summer. If I remember the AMD

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:12, Phil wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 10 July 2003 08:49 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday July 10 2003 05:52 am, Thomas Backlund wrote: I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures were

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Jack Coates
Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. The AMD docs I read said 90 to 95C internal core is the failure limit. They also

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 08:43, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:12, Phil wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:19, Jack Coates wrote: Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. Overclockers usually don't like a

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday July 10 2003 09:19 am, Jack Coates wrote: Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. The AMD docs I read said

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:03, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:38, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be.

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 07:19, Jack Coates wrote: Is it just me, or does 205 to 230 degrees Fahrenheit seem a bit excessive for the maximum temperature of a desktop? Yikes! I'm nervous enough about the operating temperature of 122 to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. No joke.. Now you know why they

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 03:54, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hehe :) Got a Hush-PC on my Desk, M1 with nemiah Core. Actual Processing tempoerature: 57 C :) Didn't manage to get the lm_sensors stuff working on my Asus A7N8X Delux board - so can't tell

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:43, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:12, Phil wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 13:14, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 05:43, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 05:12, Phil wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be.

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3599 days Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:38, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:55, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3599 days Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:38, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3598 days [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3599 days James Sparenberg wrote: Vox, Last ditch if you get worried. open the side and put a small desk fan right on it. From the hardware standpoint. make sure cables (like ribbon cables) are clear of the fan. Also you might consider case fans in addition to

Re: [expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Crawford
On Friday 11 July 2003 12:35 am, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3599 days James Sparenberg wrote: Vox, Last ditch if you get worried. open the side and put a small desk fan right on it. From the hardware standpoint. make sure cables (like ribbon cables) are clear of the fan. Also

[expert] CPU temperature question

2003-07-09 Thread Phil
Hello All, After playing with Ksensors tonight I'm now wondering what the threshold temperatures for the CPU and Mother board should be. I have an AMD XP2000+ CPU which is currently running at 60 degrees C while the Mother Board temperature is 24 degrees C. I remember that these temperatures