[expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-01 Thread Charlie Bebber
I had this working many moons ago, but with new upgrades/installs, it's all been lost and I can't remember what I did (but I know it's not that hard -- that's why it's driving me crazy). So here's what I've got going on: - ntp installed on all of my machines - ntp configured on fileserver to sy

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-01 Thread Chris & Gisela Slater-Walker
riginal Message - From: "Charlie Bebber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy! > > I had this working many moons ago, but with new upgrades/installs, it's all > been lost a

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-01 Thread Charlie Bebber
h ntp. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me since xntpd would do ntp's job, then some. Cheers, -Charlie > > Chris Slater-Walker > > - Original Message - > From: "Charlie Bebber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent:

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-01 Thread Asheesh Laroia
Are you sure the "ntp" package has the NTP *server*, not just the client? -- Asheesh. On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Charlie Bebber wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format... > > =_1007244412-31033-738 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bi

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-01 Thread Charlie Bebber
Asheesh Laroia said: > Are you sure the "ntp" package has the NTP *server*, not just the > client? Since when have there been two different packages? Thanks, -Charlie -- GPG Key fingerprint = 4F36 EC4F 2F2C 5F59 9690 09E5 4C0F 9DB0 8623 53CE Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandra

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-01 Thread Asheesh Laroia
I was thinking along the lines of telnet and telnet-server. If the ntp package (you can check in /usr/share/doc/ntp-whatever/) has the server stuff, oops. -- Asheesh. On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Charlie Bebber wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format... > > =_1007249750-31033-7

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-01 Thread Brian
Try ntpq -p and see what it says. Should have something like this: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == *yourserver.yourdomain.com ntp-0.cso.uiuc. 3 u 417 1024 3770.555

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-01 Thread Bill Kenworthy
Isnt ntpdate just a client like rdate? You need ntpd runnung. try "service ntpd start" and see what happens. # rpm -qa|grep ntp ntp-4.1.0-1mdk # ntpd (and ntpdate) are part of the above package. Usage is the same as xntpd (and seem so similar it may just be a rename?) BillK On Sun, 2001-12-

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-01 Thread Charlie Bebber
I just went back and installed xntp3 on the server and life is good. I have no idea why xntp3 stopped being bundled and was replaced with, what IMHO, is an inferior ntp package. Can anyone shed some light on this? Cheers, -Charlie Bill Kenworthy said: > Isnt ntpdate just a client like rdate?

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread bascule
the ntp stuff in lm now is the ntp4 release whereas xntpd uses ntp3 (4 should be backwards compatible with 3), in normal usage the only difference is that, as bill says, you need to have /etc/init.d./ntpd running and not as before, /xntpd, to all usual intents and purposes, a rename, client

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Charlie Bebber
bascule said: > the ntp stuff in lm now is the ntp4 release whereas xntpd uses ntp3 (4 > should be backwards compatible with 3), in normal usage the only > difference is that, as bill says, you need to have /etc/init.d./ntpd > running and not as before, /xntpd, to all usual intents and > p

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Kenworthy
Be aware that some versions of xntpd have a security hole. I think you need to go back and reread the documentation for ntpd - ntpd is a daemon, used to set both the time on your machine and can act as a server for your network (I use it for both). Ntpdate is similar to rdate (which uses the tim

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread joe
I use clockspeed. This package is written by the guy who wrote qmail. Here's a little blurb and the link http://cr.yp.to/clockspeed/clockspeed-0.62.tar.gz "clockspeed uses a hardware tick counter to compensate for a persistently fast or slow system clock. Given a few time measurements from a

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Brian
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 03:21:09 -0800 (PST) "Charlie Bebber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Charlie> Charlie> Interesting. I don't know what it is then, but xntp3 works and ntp doesn't. You should be able to get ntp working, too. Charlie> So running ntp will keep running ntpdate every so often to k

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Charlie Bebber
Right arm -- I'll have to check that one out. Thanks! -Charlie joe said: > I use clockspeed. This package is written by the guy who wrote qmail. > Here's a little blurb and the link > http://cr.yp.to/clockspeed/clockspeed-0.62.tar.gz > > "clockspeed uses a hardware tick counter to compensate

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Charlie Bebber
Brian said: > > On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 03:21:09 -0800 (PST) > "Charlie Bebber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Charlie> > Charlie> Interesting. I don't know what it is then, but xntp3 works > and ntp doesn't. > > You should be able to get ntp working, too. It's not the fact that it's not working. I

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Charlie Bebber
Bill Kenworthy said: > Be aware that some versions of xntpd have a security hole. I think you It's running behind a firewall on my local LAN, so I'm not too worried about me cracking my own box :) > need to go back and reread the documentation for ntpd - ntpd is a > daemon, used to set both th

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Brian
check your ntp.conf file for the following line at the end: restrict default ignore if it's there, comment it out (#) and see if local machines can then get time from your 'master clock machine'. It's in there for security - preventing outsiders from wasting your bandwidth getting time from your

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 03:02, Charlie Bebber wrote: > > Bill Kenworthy said: > So if you go through your syslog, can you find where ntpdate periodically > syncs on its own with the server you've listed in your ntp.conf? Everything > you've said makes perfect sense and it work{s,ed} for me when t

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Kenworthy
I should have added this: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == LOCAL(0)LOCAL(0)10 l 43 64 3770.0000.000 0.015 *core-sw1.wa.iin tictoc.tip.CSIR

Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy!

2001-12-02 Thread Brian Schroeder
, but this did fix it in a number of cases. Brian Schroeder >From: "Charlie Bebber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [expert] NTP -- driving me crazy! >Date: Sun, 2 D