Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-12-06 Thread Mark Weaver
Nick, I'm an assistant network administrator where i work. can you imagine having to support even a modest network of 40 users with 40 workstations that all dual boot from windows 9x to Linux Mandrake? given that most corporate users have only enough working knowledge of their workstations to nav

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-12-06 Thread Nick Thompson
How so? My laptop dual boots between Win98 and LM8.1. It has the same hostname in each boot and uses DHCP to get its networking details in both cases. If I hadn't told our IT department, I'm not sure they'd have even realised I'd done it. Nick. Mark Weaver wrote: >>The reason that companies

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-12-06 Thread Mark Weaver
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:05:54 +1100 Tarragon Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 03:20, Mark D'voo wrote: > > I understand that many people still need many of the programs of windows. > > But harddrives are big enough that there is no reason to dual boot. > > Companies should s

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-12-03 Thread Tarragon Allen
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 03:20, Mark D'voo wrote: > I understand that many people still need many of the programs of windows. > But harddrives are big enough that there is no reason to dual boot. > Companies should see computers pre-dual-booted. Hell, it doesn't cost them > anything to put linux on

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-12-03 Thread mycal62
small rant: I too agree with the statement at the end of your post. Mandrake Is great , I on the otherhand have too often been far from great! anyone with half a brain can install Mandrake - ( push button - insert cd - click a few times and Miracles of miracles, it works. Period ! ) I hav

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-12-03 Thread Mark Weaver
On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 22:20:53 +0600 "Mark D'voo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think people say linux is harder because they are scared of it. True, it > is not harder to click on the menu and run a program. it is not hard to > install programs (unless you get into dependency cycles, damn RPMS

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-12-03 Thread Mark D'voo
I think people say linux is harder because they are scared of it. True, it is not harder to click on the menu and run a program. it is not hard to install programs (unless you get into dependency cycles, damn RPMS), it is not hard to navigate. It is the fact that the user has soo much power

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-12-03 Thread Mark Weaver
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:36:38 -0500 "Leif Madsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Until Microsoft steals the idea and makes their own, as has been done with > many products. They will then package it with the next OS release, and then > all the windows users will use it, and Linux will no longer hav

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-30 Thread Andriamirado Thierry
Leif Madsen wrote: > problems just logging onto the internet. I can see the near future being a > combination of OS's with Linux running all the backend/server hardware, and > Windows being placed on all the desktops. I think if Microsoft stripped > down their OS so that it came with ONLY the

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-30 Thread Andriamirado Thierry
George Jones (IT) wrote: > The real problem with linux, for me anyways, is that I can't record > music on it. Period. If you are talking about simply recording a wav file via a soundcard, Linux can do it, of course. But it's sure that Linux doesn't have Cubase nor Cakewalk Sonar.YET :-))

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-28 Thread Franki
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary Spiers Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 10:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] problem with linux I presume you are aware and have tried the linmodem drivers that now exist for a number of these winmodems. My IBM X20 wo

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-28 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] problem with linux Ok... Now we resort to taking shots at folks. 1. I use my pc for far more than "making pop music". In fact, I don't make "pop" music. It's true Detroit Techno, Drum and Bass, and Deep House (FYI). I also use my pc for gra

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-28 Thread Gary Spiers
I presume you are aware and have tried the linmodem drivers that now exist for a number of these winmodems. My IBM X20 works with such a Linmodem driver. WRT Windows applications, my employer is a major aerospace R&D house. On the research side Linux is being used an increasing amount especially

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread George Abdo
I use OSX at work. (I have a PC running Win2000 and a B&W G3 running OSX 10.1.1) The OSX is great if you just consider the OS itself. Everything works great, and the speed is good (it's a lot better on a G4) When it comes to using applications, especially non-Apple OSX native ones, it starts to

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread George Abdo
I don't really think anyone can learn pointers in two hours when they are new to C. I know I tried. Mind you, I came from a fortran background! George On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:22:06 + Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 28

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Eastman
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 04:35:30PM -0500, George Jones (IT) wrote: > I'd rather stab myself in the eyes with a blunt, rusty screwdriver than use > MacOS. > > I have 2 macs at home. The powermac, my 3 year old uses and the 040 (840av) > has BSD on it, but currently resides in a closet in my baseme

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread mike
t; -Original Message- > From: Tom Badran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] problem with linux > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 9:57

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread antoine rivoire
t; most people are quite happy with that. Strip away the non-essentials and > market it. Linux will go far that way. > > -Original Message- > From: Mark D'voo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [e

Re: [expert] problem with linux (sound)

2001-11-27 Thread antoine rivoire
> > http://www.llornkcor.com/SLab/SLab.html > > -JMS > > |-Original Message----- > |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:08 PM > |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |Subject: Re: [expert] problem with linux (sound) > | >

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Badran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 28 Nov 2001 12:15 am, you wrote: > Care to give a newbie/novice programmer an insite as to how to do this. If you dont know another language, then it will be longer. But if you do, then all you need to look at is the syntax for loops, l

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Bill Beauchemin
Care to give a newbie/novice programmer an insite as to how to do this. <(and you can learn C in about 2 hours anyway ;) )> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] problem with linux I do have C for Dummies... does that count? I also have Linux Programming, Programming for KDE, and Linux Games Programming, I just never got around to learning. I'm also fair to meddlin' with graphic design. I'll have more to contribu

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Badran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 10:15 pm, you wrote: > I HAVE the answer...a linux game of flying or driving, uses three monitors > setup, has 3d photo-realistic imaging and sattelite updating. With real time ray-tracing too :) Damn, ive only ever seen one m

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Badran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 9:57 pm, you wrote: > There's a thought. I totally suck as a programmer (I still might 0wNz at > Atari Basic tho), but maybe I could give some feedback on the projects, > tweaks, etc... > > Guess I'll start there. Good for you,

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Ed Tharp
wonder if they have tried BeOs > Hmm, or perhaps design a soundcard > or video card around Linux, hehehe, > one that is so cool and works so well, > it makes those windowsers jealous. > > On Tuesday 27 November 2001 01:55 am, Mark D'voo wrote: > > The problem with linux is the linux community is

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] problem with linux There's a thought. I totally suck as a programmer (I still might 0wNz at Atari Basic tho), but maybe I could give some feedback on the projects, tweaks, etc... Guess I'll start there. -Original Message- From: Tom Badran [mai

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Ed Tharp
I HAVE the answer...a linux game of flying or driving, uses three monitors setup, has 3d photo-realistic imaging and sattelite updating. On Tuesday 27 November 2001 16:19, you wrote: > Hmm, or perhaps design a soundcard > or video card around Linux, hehehe, > one that is so cool and works so w

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] problem with linux I'd rather stab myself in the eyes with a blunt, rusty screwdriver than use MacOS. I have 2 macs at home. The powermac, my 3 year old uses and the 040 (840av) has BSD on it, but currently resides in a closet in my basement. I never liked M

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Badran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 8:45 pm, you wrote: > The ST was good back in 1988-93 (I should know, I owned 3 of them!), but in > 2001, no. > > BTW, trackers won't cut it either. I need MIDI sequencing AND Audio > recording w/fx plug-ins. Again; there is not

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Expert
e that meet my demands. > > -Original Message- > From: Tom Badran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:21 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] problem with linux > > On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 4:04 pm, you wrote: > > The

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Eastman
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 12:31:19PM -0500, Leif Madsen wrote: > I'm pretty sure he is talking about recording from a mixing board and > recording into seperate tracks (such as Cakewalk, Pro Tools etc...) This is my problem as well.. as soon as Linux has an equivalent to Cool Edit Professional I wo

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Expert
Hmm, or perhaps design a soundcard or video card around Linux, hehehe, one that is so cool and works so well, it makes those windowsers jealous. On Tuesday 27 November 2001 01:55 am, Mark D'voo wrote: > The problem with linux is the linux community is always creating products > to catch up with

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] problem with linux The ST was good back in 1988-93 (I should know, I owned 3 of them!), but in 2001, no. BTW, trackers won't cut it either. I need MIDI sequencing AND Audio recording w/fx plug-ins. Again; there is nothing for linux that matches Cakewalk/Cub

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Badran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 5:31 pm, you wrote: > I'm pretty sure he is talking about recording from a mixing board and > recording into seperate tracks (such as Cakewalk, Pro Tools etc...) Ok, then we have soundtraker ;) I thought the atari ST was best

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Franki
ECTED]]On Behalf Of jipe Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 3:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] problem with linux Le Mardi 27 Novembre 2001 08:55, vous avez écrit : > The problem with linux is the linux community is always creating products > to catch up with windows. I say sc

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread jipe
Le Mardi 27 Novembre 2001 08:55, vous avez écrit : > The problem with linux is the linux community is always creating products > to catch up with windows. I say screw that. I linux community needs to > make a product that is revolutionary and that windows can't use. People > will release that o

RE: [expert] problem with linux (sound)

2001-11-27 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] problem with linux (sound) Yep. I don't particularly care for SAW, even though I own it. -Original Message- From: Jose M. Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] problem with

RE: [expert] problem with linux (sound)

2001-11-27 Thread Jose M. Sanchez
Heh, have you tried SAW under Wine? it works! -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of George Jones (IT) Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 1:06 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] problem with li

RE: [expert] problem with linux (sound)

2001-11-27 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] problem with linux (sound) http://www.xdt.com/ar/linux-snd/ - I keep an eye on this page already. Out of everything I've seen, only http://www.slabexchange.org/ looks promising, but it doesn't work well on my particular card (SBLive, which, under Win98 w/E-mu A

RE: [expert] problem with linux (sound)

2001-11-27 Thread Jose M. Sanchez
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [expert] problem with linux (sound) | | |> "George Jones (IT)" wrote: |> |> The real problem with linux, for me anyways, is that I can't record |> music on it. Period. | |$ rec -d /dev/dsp test.wav |Send break (control-c) to end recording

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Leif Madsen
AIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [expert] problem with linux > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 4:04 pm, you wrote: > > The real problem with linux, for me anyways, i

Re: [expert] problem with linux (sound)

2001-11-27 Thread Pierre Fortin
> "George Jones (IT)" wrote: > > The real problem with linux, for me anyways, is that I can't record music on > it. Period. $ rec -d /dev/dsp test.wav Send break (control-c) to end recording $ play test.wav Heck, even "cat /dev/dsp > file" will record stuff, though playing it requires some "so

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] problem with linux I guess I should clarify this statement. There is a serious lack (read: nonexistant) of professional MIDI/Audio recording software for Linux. There is little, if any support for Linux from MIDI/audio hardware manufacturers. Basically, I need to keep

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Badran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 4:13 pm, you wrote: > ummm, I wouldn't say IIS is free, but it is included by default in > win2000pro and server... > Which means the price is 'included' also. And how much money is dataloss (more a microsoft SQL thing)/downti

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Badran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 4:04 pm, you wrote: > The real problem with linux, for me anyways, is that I can't record music > on it. Period. This is one area that linux destroys windows on as far as i am concerned. Just take grip - gets the names of the

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Franki
EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] problem with linux What people dont relize is that not only can you download a complete OS for free, the package also comes with a ton of free applications and servers for free. Try finding M$ Exchange in windows NT for free. Hows about M$ IIS for free! Maybe

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread George Jones (IT)
Title: RE: [expert] problem with linux The real problem with linux, for me anyways, is that I can't record music on it. Period. I think that the larger problem is that there isn't a single, major distro that is easy enough  for a complete newbie to computing to use. Mandrake

RE: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Franki
tics, who's gonna believe a word we say? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leif Madsen Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 10:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] problem with linux Until Microsoft steals the id

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Bill Beauchemin
What people dont relize is that not only can you download a complete OS for free, the package also comes with a ton of free applications and servers for free. Try finding M$ Exchange in windows NT for free. Hows about M$ IIS for free! Maybe there including MS SQL Server for free. NOT! Whats t

Re: [expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Leif Madsen
er [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.plannettechnologies.com - Original Message - From: "Mark D'voo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:55 AM Subject: [expert] problem with linux > The problem with linux is the linux c

[expert] problem with linux

2001-11-27 Thread Mark D'voo
The problem with linux is the linux community is always creating products to catch up with windows. I say screw that. I linux community needs to make a product that is revolutionary and that windows can't use. People will release that only linux can do this and a lot more users will at least

[expert] Problem with linux mandrake 7.2

2001-04-27 Thread Apostolos Arvanitakis
Also i would like to tell you that the problem fix when i restart the x-windows.But after i have again the same problem if i leave the system without doing anything. Thank you again. -Original Message- From: Apostolos Arvanitakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001