[FairfieldLife] who is the guru?

2005-04-19 Thread Mike Hutchinson
Who is the Guru, after all? He who knows the state in which there is neither the world nor the thought of it, he is the Supreme Teacher. To find him means to reach the state in which imagination is no longer taken for reality, for truth, for what is. He is a realist in the highest sense of th

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Wednesday - Open Your Heart

2005-04-19 Thread The Daily Inspiration
Title: Template April 20, 2005 - Open Your Heart There are two main difficulties in finding the way out, but both can be overcome.  The first is the rarity of a teacher who really knows the an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-19 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/19/05 11:57:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: did you know the new popecomes from a nice jewish family !!they have not had a jewish pope sincethe apostle peter !! Jewish? And in the Hitler youth! And he and his brother were alter boys? WOW

Re: [FairfieldLife] This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-19 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/19/05 11:24:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: altho  born and raised a catholic i am, thanks to the maharishi,>> at least 50%  hindu, and happier for it.> > George , try  50% Hindu wannabe. > yeah true, but im also only 50% catholic cuz i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-19 Thread George DeForest
> > George , try 50% Hindu wannabe. > > Try Christian for Krishna. ha, ha funny ... like Jews for Jesus. did you know the new pope comes from a nice jewish family !! they have not had a jewish pope since the apostle peter !! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/19/05 11:16:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My understanding was that he wrecked her car AFTER she reported the abuse to police. If you read the FF ledger he said he was so upset he got really drunk and when he woke up the next day her f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harakiri

2005-04-19 Thread Rick
I have gone through every synopsis I could find of Toshiro Mifunes films and I can't find the movie I was thinking of. The third part of the Samurai trilogy sounds familiar, who knows maybe I made it up. Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://

[FairfieldLife] Re: This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-19 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/19/05 11:06:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > altho born and raised a catholic i am, thanks to the maharishi, > at least 50% hindu, and happier for it. > > > > George , t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/19/05 3:44 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You think those pictures and video of people hopping is just expensive > special effects? Sure used to see it a lot on TV. I remember when they > broadcast the 1st yogic flying competition on the Washington news. > I was there. I also remem

Re: [FairfieldLife] This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-19 Thread George DeForest
>> altho born and raised a catholic i am, thanks to the maharishi, >> at least 50% hindu, and happier for it. > > George , try 50% Hindu wannabe. > yeah true, but im also only 50% catholic cuz i "dont-wanna-be" !! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http:/

[FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread m2smart4u2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/19/05 8:35:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I guess that makes it OK then, he wasn't drunk and by your logic if it was 5 > times a week > she was into it. > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-19 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/19/05 11:06:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: altho born and raised a catholic i am, thanks to the maharishi,at least 50% hindu, and happier for it. George , try  50% Hindu wannabe. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or

[FairfieldLife] This Pope Dont Rock...

2005-04-19 Thread George DeForest
from the writings of Cardinal Ratzinger, aka newly elected Pope Benedict XVI: "Rock" [music]. . . is the expression of elemental passions, and at rock festivals it assumes a cultic character, a form of worship, in fact, in opposition to Christian worship. People are, so to speak, released from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/19/05 8:35:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess that makes it OK then, he wasn't drunk and by your logic if it was 5 times a week she was into it. Lets jump to conclusions Easyone. I guess that's where your logic takes you. Why did she

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
OK, so this is some guy's commentary on Patanjali. I always wondered why Patanjali devoted one chapter of a 4-chapter book to siddhis if siddhis were so bad. Interesting that after 25 years of sidhi practice no one that I know of has demonstrated any of them. Some people have subjective experience

[FairfieldLife] new Pope on TM

2005-04-19 Thread at_man_and_brahman
FWIW, Ratzinger is the guy who wrote the encyclical, in John Paul's name, some years back condemning TM. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on

[FairfieldLife] Harakiri

2005-04-19 Thread L B Shriver
Available at Amazon and elsewhere. Editorial Reviews Amazon.com Dramatically compelling and emotionally intense, Harakiri is a certified classic of Japanese film, and a riveting study of samurai codes of honor. Unlike Kurosawa's rousing samurai epics, this is an uncompromisingly tragic ta

[FairfieldLife] Re: Headless Samuri

2005-04-19 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Real" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > If I may be so bold. Jim, when I read

[FairfieldLife] Re: Headless Samuri

2005-04-19 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Real" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If I may be so bold. Jim, when I read Akasha on a role I am reminded > > > of a Kurasawa samurai movie I once saw. The climac

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread Don
m2smart4u2000 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Boy, easyone, you're begining to show the logic of > > > some other more notorious list members

[FairfieldLife] New Tech-Support Caste Arises In India

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
NEW DELHI—Thanks to widespread outsourcing of telephone-service jobs, a sixth caste has blossomed in India: the Khidakayas, a mid-level jati made up of technical-support workers. "I am happy to be a Khidakaya," said technical-support agent Ranji Prasat, who speaks English with a flawless American

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 9:44 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > And why, pray tell, did Patanjali give the definition > and formulas for sanyama in great detail and then tell > you not to do it? Something more is going on here than > meets the eye. Well there is a difference between what we've been lead to

[FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread m2smart4u2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Boy, easyone, you're begining to show the logic of > > some other more notorious list members! > > Shhh, they don't want any on

[FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boy, easyone, you're begining to show the logic of > some other more notorious list members! Shhh, they don't want any one to know yet. But he and off-world have been meeting secretly after list hours. To s

[FairfieldLife] Papal Election Brings End To Worldwide Unsupervised-Catholic Sin Binge

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
VATICAN CITY—In the interim between Pope John Paul II's death and the election of his replacement, unsupervised Catholics seized the opportunity to sin without fear of reprisal, sources confirmed Tuesday. Catholics cavort in St. Peter's square last week. Above: Catholics cavort in St. Pet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
Don't worry. You'll get it when there is no more eye. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And why, pray tell, did Patanjali give the definition > and formulas for sanyama in great detail and then tell > you not to do it? Something more is going on h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- easyone200 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 4/19/05 8:02:17 P.M. Central > Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Based on what has been said so far I'm inclined > to believe L

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-19 Thread Peter Sutphen
And why, pray tell, did Patanjali give the definition and formulas for sanyama in great detail and then tell you not to do it? Something more is going on here than meets the eye. -Peter --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj > <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/19/05 8:02:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Based on what has been said so far I'm inclined to believe Larry > Smith jr. > > What is the motive for the daughter to sla

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-19 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > Would you mind posting a few key verses for us? > > Sure, but it'll help to explain what going on. In the third chapter > Vidyaranya talks about the means to Cosmic C

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/19/05 8:02:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Based on what has been said so far I'm inclined to believe  Larry Smith jr. > What is the motive for the daughter to slander her father  though?>>>Duh?... Let me thinkmaybe he molested

[FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/19/05 10:41:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Larry Smith Jr. took the witness stand Wednesday and today to > defend himself against charges of sexual abuse and incest, de

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/19/05 6:55:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well that is exactly the point, why should she? Has dad refused to buy her a new car? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Llundrub
The kill the Buddha thing is a Zen koan meant to mean to experience things first hand in presence and not to just build castles in the air. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:50 PM Subject

[FairfieldLife] Why Samyama won't lead to CC; was Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > Would you mind posting a few key verses for us? Sure, but it'll help to explain what going on. In the third chapter Vidyaranya talks about the means to Cosmic Consciousness and this is by "Dissolution of the Mind". The previous chapter is on h

[FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread m2smart4u2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/19/05 10:41:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Larry Smith Jr. took the witness stand Wednesday and today to > defend himself against charges of sexual abuse and incest, den

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Llundrub
I guess the question would be, is there a defference between personality and ego. How much does personality depend on identification with the body or as the body? Is there an I-sense that can exist beyond the body?Rick CarlstromWhen the I self sees itself as a huge totality and not as s

[FairfieldLife] Extraordinary Discovery Unlocks Secrets Of The Ancients

2005-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
EUREKA! EXTRAORDINARY DISCOVERY UNLOCKS SECRETS OF THE ANCIENTS By David Keys and Nicholas Pyke The Independent April 17, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/9ynwv Thousands of previously illegible manuscripts containing work by some of the greats of classical literature are being read for the first time us

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raam Navami your lucky day?

2005-04-19 Thread Llundrub
Yeah, the now. That's it. The now is streaming golden light and suffused darkness. There's no need to really try to control it because it's perfect, and already prophecized to death and so it's all about really letting go now. It's not easy to let go. I find it hard to believe anyone could

Re: [FairfieldLife] New Ex-Governors

2005-04-19 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/19/05 10:57:49 A.M. Central > Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Hello, > > So, are the new ex-governors called citizen sidhas > now? > > What do you all hear from the course? > > Any info would be appreciated > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
mirror mirror on the wall... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a hard call to make after just looking at the number of posts you three have made as to > which one is the most severely mentally ill. I'll still put my money on that delusional

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/19/05 12:16 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > These texts are very explicit on how to > attain CC. One thing they insist: use Patanjali as part of that path. > You know the bizarre thing? They insist you skip the entire siddhis > portion, ESPECIALLY the levitation siddhi! They also warn

[FairfieldLife] Do you meditate?

2005-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
Some might like to respond to this person's invitation: http://epigraph.org/blog/?page_id=169 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go t

[FairfieldLife] Sanity

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a hard call to make after just looking at the number of posts you three have made as to > which one is the most severely mentally ill. I'll still put my money on that delusional little > piss-ant rory. After

[FairfieldLife] Re: Headless Samuri

2005-04-19 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Real" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I may be so bold. Jim, when I read Akasha on a role I am reminded > > of a Kurasawa samurai movie I once saw. The climactic scene was one > > hardened samurai warrior pitted against an army of warriors and it >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:33 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > > But to those who experience the ever expanding > > universe as a > > > neverending, pulsating body of blis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:33 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > > > But to those who experience the ever expanding > universe as a > > neverending, pulsating body of bliss on a daily > basis, as a result of > > practices given by MMY, what good is a book ? > > Well "

Re: [FairfieldLife] ??????????

2005-04-19 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- mrfishey2001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > "The pleasure from samadhi is an obstacle to > samadhi." > > > I genuinely regret not keeping up with threads when > one such as this > appears. Pleasure, bliss, whatever you call it is just the darshan of pure consciousness. It tr

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Amen! > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > After all, what > > earthly difference does it make to any of you what "state of > > consciousness" I (or any of us)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
Hi Llundrub, glad to have you back! Very, very interesting name- seems to fit you better, and I like it backwards as much as forwards! Jim > ---Try to not be your personality. Your personality is the entire expanse and range of all relative exerience from hell to heaven, and more besides. T

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Llundrub
Vaj,This along with your prior comments on darshana (view) as preceeding but not the same as experience is clarifying. its interesting thatsome proclaim they are in BC and that Brahman is an "understanding"not an experience. This sounds like a darshana. What is yourtraditions' and teachers

[FairfieldLife] ??????????

2005-04-19 Thread mrfishey2001
"The pleasure from samadhi is an obstacle to samadhi." I genuinely regret not keeping up with threads when one such as this appears. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:33 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > But to those who experience the ever expanding universe as a > neverending, pulsating body of bliss on a daily basis, as a result of > practices given by MMY, what good is a book ? Well "the practices given by MMY" came from a book--maybe they co

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
Amen! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After all, what > earthly difference does it make to any of you what "state of > consciousness" I (or any of us) may or may not be "in"? The only > thing that really matters is where YOU are willing to stand.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:07 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > To what "tradition" do you refer ? The Shankaracharya tradition. > > Do you believe something must be correct just because that thinking has > been the fashion for the last, say 500 years ? No, it is has to be successful at waking people up. >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 3:48 PM, lupidus108 wrote: > May I ask who/what "they" are to which you refer ? Vidyaranya specifically, one of the Shankaracharyas, but also Patanjali and others. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Akasha, > > Thank you for your lengthy and thoughtful reply. I can much better > understand your overall perspective now, which oddly enough is very > much like my own. A perspective I can heartily subsc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Rick wrote: > > > Well, I didn't really mean which tradition, I guess I was just asking > > what is it that makes any tradition "gospel"? > > That it has a continuous worth in actually enligh

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
Right. Full accountability beyond reason. I'll keep my eye out for the movie. Sounds enjoyable! Regards, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Real" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I may be so bold. Jim, when I read Akasha on a role I am reminded > of a Kurasawa samurai movie I o

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
Hi Akasha, Thank you for your lengthy and thoughtful reply. I can much better understand your overall perspective now, which oddly enough is very much like my own. Just to clarify the 'Rory' question: in order for me to continue to grow > > and evolve, I must treat Rory (in the way he has th

Re: [FairfieldLife] New Ex-Governors

2005-04-19 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/19/05 10:57:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello,So, are the new ex-governors called citizen sidhas now?What do you all hear from the course?Any info would be appreciated Harijan or out casts To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial

2005-04-19 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/19/05 10:41:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry Smith Jr. took the witness stand Wednesday and today to defend himself against charges of sexual abuse and incest, denying that he ever molested his daughter. Based on what has been said

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread lupidus108
To what "tradition" do you refer ? Do you believe something must be correct just because that thinking has been the fashion for the last, say 500 years ? It seems you have lost MMY's main point: the siddhis are a only sideeffects of the growth of consciousness and per ce not interesting. Tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread lupidus108
One thing they insist: use Patanjali as part of that > path. > > You know the bizarre thing? They insist you skip the entire > siddhis > > portion, ESPECIALLY the levitation siddhi! They also warn on > > channelling, other beings, etc. Otherwise it is said you will > NEVER > > obtain CC.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Rick wrote: > Well, I didn't really mean which tradition, I guess I was just asking > what is it that makes any tradition "gospel"? That it has a continuous worth in actually enlightening people. That's the only tradition that's worthwhile in this context. In that

[FairfieldLife] Headless Samuri

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Real" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I may be so bold. Jim, when I read Akasha on a role I am reminded > of a Kurasawa samurai movie I once saw. The climactic scene was one > hardened samurai warrior pitted against an army of warriors and it > took plac

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Real wrote: > > > What constitutes the "tradition".? > > The Shankaracharya tradition was what I was referring to. Well, I didn't really mean which tradition, I guess I was just asking what

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Akasha, > > I think you may be misunderstanding me. Could be. Apologies if I am. I am open and eager to get it right. > I am NOT stating the fact > that just because I like what Rory says that you or anyb

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Real wrote: > What constitutes the "tradition".? The Shankaracharya tradition was what I was referring to. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Link

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dog Ear Infections - I taught my dog to meditate

2005-04-19 Thread Don
sramanist wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there, > > My dog had a problem too. It was in an accident after which it had > to have most of its nose amputated. This would have been a terrible > experience and afterwards it never seemed complete

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita,

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 1:49 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > 1) Do your teachers and traditions view BC as an understanding or an > experiential reality? They don't talk about Brahma-Chetana at all--I come from a non-sectarian Maha-sandi tradition which is non-dual form of meditation. What they would cal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Real wrote: > > > My personal experience with the TMSiddhi program in total is that > > nothing previous to this practice has so clearly cultivated the > > growth of silence into my daily life.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Real" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rory baby, if this were a Three Stooges episode I would be asking you > to pick two fingers. Nya nya nyuk nyuk nyuk poke! Yes, that's how the trouble usually starts: "if ..." :-) To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Got it. I sometimes fail to see that an upward direction assumes a > > greater totality; a circle, not an arrow. > > Yes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Llundrub
All dharma violators who cross concepts from one stateof awakening to another will be brought out of theashram and forced to eat a steak (cooked perfectly byRJ in a fine cognac sauce with sauted onions) and havesex with a non-meditator at dawn.---Yes, just so, and quite reminds me of me no

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Akasha, > > I think you may be misunderstanding me. I am NOT stating the fact > that just because I like what Rory says that you or anybody else > should. That is literally None Of My Business. So this isn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raam Navami your lucky day?

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > <[

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Real wrote: > My personal experience with the TMSiddhi program in total is that > nothing previous to this practice has so clearly cultivated the > growth of silence into my daily life. Having said that, I tend to > think that the Siddhi practice especially the flyin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raam Navami your lucky day?

2005-04-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Someone forwarded to me: > > >Heaven > > > on Earth--say "bye bye to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (snip) > > We were just discussing this on another list and one opinion I have > always held is that *IF* MMY really wanted to get people to Cosmic > Consciousness and if he really claimed to be representing the > Shankara

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
Thanks! That was awesome! Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >one > might also take the opposite tack -- the "neti neti" path of absolute > denial, drawing the target around the arrow (Self) and mercilessly > slaying all outside that circle, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Ex-Governors

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > snip > > > > I think it is interesting that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Got it. I sometimes fail to see that an upward direction assumes a > > greater totality; a circle, not an arrow. > > Yes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita,

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 12:55 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > This along with your prior comments on darshana (view) as preceeding > > but not the same as experience is clarifying. its interesting that > > some proclaim they are i

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
Very eloquently stated! I recall an inspiring story of Guru Dev walking with a disciple, who had decided to trick Guru Dev by walking with him by a dead dog. When he saw the dead dog, the disciple proclaimed to Guru Dev, Oh look a dead dog Master. And Guru Dev replied, Yes, and what beautifu

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Real" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What if your higher self won't accept you? Ain't gonna happen; you're pre-certified, baby. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and clic

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, it is an absolutely simple way of perceiving and acting through > life. The perfection of the Golden Rule, if you will. > > And yes, Rory's postings can sound awfully obscure to me also. The way > I n

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Got it. I sometimes fail to see that an upward direction assumes a > greater totality; a circle, not an arrow. Yes! And everything You see/feel in me, You already are, or you couldn't appreciate it at all. To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In this world of "awakened" individuals so many seem to think that > with just a slight shift in perspective they have seen the trick of > bound individual ego revealed and now they are free. Sometimes I > suspect

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
Yes, and if you see the Buddha on the road, kill him, right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 12:55 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > This along with your prior comments on darshana (view) as preceeding > > but not the same as experience i

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Ex-Governors

2005-04-19 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> snip > > I think it is interesting that the pundit project in India, > currently ongoing (correct me if I'm > > mistaken) coincides with the

[FairfieldLife] Forced into the Now, was: Raam Navami your lucky day?

2005-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/19/05 12:13 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Tom Factor? > > yes, real skiing, like many sports, forces the moment upon you. Take a > line of steep and deep moguls -- and past and future disappear. Not Tom, who lives there, lucky dog, and is a snow boarder these days, but a g

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
Got it. I sometimes fail to see that an upward direction assumes a greater totality; a circle, not an arrow. Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and have sex with a non-meditator at dawn. And please make it particularly awful -- smart, 25, blonde, and athletic -- so that i might rid myself of this scurge tendency to violate dharma, the eternal Laws of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread jim_flanegin
Hi Akasha, I think you may be misunderstanding me. I am NOT stating the fact that just because I like what Rory says that you or anybody else should. That is literally None Of My Business. So this isn't some little fascism or something. Rather all I am saying is that in order for me to conti

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2005, at 12:55 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > This along with your prior comments on darshana (view) as preceeding > but not the same as experience is clarifying. its interesting that > some proclaim they are in BC and that Brahman is an "understanding" > not an experience. This sounds like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Raam Navami your lucky day?

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/19/05 11:48 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > yes. Its like a 120 meter ski jump. They take you to the top and push > > you out the chute -- and in a few seconds you "Get It". > > I know a guy

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux

2005-04-19 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Then rather than my little ego attempting to kick him out of existence > so to speak (which is impossible anyway), I just accept what he says, > and continue focusing on increasing my understanding of the wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Advaita, Pseudo-Advaita, and Ramesh Balsekar at Kovalam 2004

2005-04-19 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raam Navami your lucky day?

2005-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/19/05 11:48 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > yes. Its like a 120 meter ski jump. They take you to the top and push > you out the chute -- and in a few seconds you "Get It". I know a guy here who had an awakening in a similar manner a few weeks ago. He was skiing the steeps a

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