Actually, I got the quote from another discussion
group, and reposted it just as it was posted there.
Don't know where it came from originally. It could
have come from anywhere.
But it's good to see that you're still obsessing on
the subject. :-)
Have you come up with any answers yet for how
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In case anybody had been wondering where Barry got
the screed about Vedic animal sacrifice he pasted in
below, it's from a site called Karma2Grace, which
purports to be interested in fostering understanding
between
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#Death_toll
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willytex@ wrote:
jim_flanegin wrote:
I'd like to hear your definition of Buddha.
Which Buddha?
Any ol' Buddha. My logic was that to deny the
This would be funny if it wasn't so scary
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801
--- Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter wrote:
Any point value can awaken, at any moment, to its
infinite value, even a lowly paper-pushing clerk.
Then
the relative distinctions become quite
superfluous. By
the way, on my TTC as MMY reached up to be helped
off
a boat
Richard,
What is the point of this thread? You seem to be
trying to make some point about MMY that I'm not
getting. Please help me here!
-Peter
--- Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jonathan Chadwick wrote:
Unless Kropinski's interview with Swami
Swaroopananda Brahmananda
is
Yeah, I don't like the universal gravitational
constant so I think I'll suspend my belief in that
too. I mean, hell, its only a theory, right?
--- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This would be funny if it wasn't so scary
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801
To
Richard J. Williams wrote:
According to the terms of Brahmanand's will, the Jyotirmath
succussor was Swami Shantinand. No mention in the will of
a Swami Swaroopanand. At any rate, Swami Swaroopanand is not
a succusor to Brahmanand . . .
Jonathan Chadwick wrote:
Well at least Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This would be funny if it wasn't so scary
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801
Yup. My friends who are rangers there told me
about this. Pretty fascinating, isn't it?
It's even a little relevant to FFL
According to the Shankaracharya of Dwarka, Swami Svarupanand Saraswati,
the Mahesh Yogi used to put up a picture of Guru Dev and give talks,
all over India, in his name. Swami Svarup says that Acharya Shree, that
is, Swami Brahmanand Saraswati, used to initiate aspirants with the
bija mantra of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
This would be funny if it wasn't so scary
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801
Yup. My friends who are rangers there told me
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yeah, I don't like the universal gravitational
constant so I think I'll suspend my belief in that
too. I mean, hell, its only a theory, right?
Luckily, gravity doesn't require us to believe in it to keep working.
The Golden Dome is a hollow tope void. In other words, the Golden Dome
at Fairfield, (not to be confused with the Maharishi Golden Dome of
Pure Knowledge at Radience, Texas, home of the Superadiance program),
is a sort of hollow sphere, surmounted by a kalasa, supported by the
amalaka in which the
How many people are attending the current course to become a
recertified governor?
Understanding the Mechanics of Conciousness
http://rwilliams.us/resources/
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Feste37, whoever you are, I appreciate that you are still around
FFL
defending the *faith* as best you can. I understand you are quite
a
babe. But tell us your thoughts really.
Now, what do you think about
What was the little Brahman's name?
Peter wrote:
Fred Flintstone
So, you weren't really at TTC - you made that up and the quote too.
Never heard of a Fred Flinstone ever being on TTC with MMY.
According to the medical records, as described in the official
biography of Swami Brahmanand
After arranging the funeral of his Guru DevJi and turning over, with
all due pomp and ceremony, the administration of the Jyotirmutt Trust
to Guru Dev's worthy succussor, Shantinand Saraswati, as specified in
Guru Dev's hand-written will, Bal Bramhacharya Mahesh followed Guru
Dev's instructions to
Peter wrote:
What is the point of this thread?
Does it have to have a point, Peter? Some people just feel better when
they have someone to talk to. Is that alright with you, if I talk with
some of the TMers on this list?
You seem to be trying to make some point about MMY that I'm not
getting.
On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Yes, it's a mile deep. If you're considering doing
any strenous hiking or biking, do read the guide-
lines provided by the Park Service. Especially
regarding water and carrying enough of it. Dozens
of people die there every year of dehydration,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter wrote:
Any point value can awaken, at any moment, to its
infinite value, even a lowly paper-pushing clerk.
Then
the relative distinctions become quite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I got the quote from another discussion
group, and reposted it just as it was posted there.
Sure you did, Barry.
Don't know where it came from originally. It could
have come from anywhere.
If I could find
jim_flanegin wrote:
I barely know anything about religion.
Jim - You seem to be interested in religion, this topic concerns the
stages of samadhi. I'm just trying to point out that the word samadhi
pertains to the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali - one of the main scriptures
of the Indian Six Systems.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
In case anybody had been wondering where Barry got
the screed about Vedic animal sacrifice he pasted in
below, it's from a site called Karma2Grace,
authfriend wrote:
In case anybody had been wondering where Barry got
the screed about Vedic animal sacrifice he pasted in
below,
It's all about Barry, isn't it? You two need to get a grip - animal
sacrifice is Vedic and comes from the notions of the Aryan
speakers who invaded India. Based on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Yes, it's a mile deep. If you're considering doing
any strenous hiking or biking, do read the guide-
lines provided by the Park Service. Especially
regarding water
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
I always liked the way scientists name stars etc. after
the ancient myths, I didn't know about the GC though.
Would love to see it
richard hughes wrote:
This would be funny if it wasn't so scary
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801
What's not so funny is that this forum seems to have been hijacked by
athiests, who think it's funny to make fun of other people's religion.
But, what's really funny to me is that
All Indian mantric practices stem from the ancient Buddhists of India,
and were adopted, with modifications, by the Shiva and Vaishanava
sects as Hindu tantricism following the Gupta Age.
However, there are no bija mantras in the Rig Veda. According to what
I've read, every bija mantra has four
A phurha (sometimes transliterated phurpa or phurba) is an artifact of
the Tibetan esoteric tradition. Strictly speaking it's a ritual dart,
but it can sometimes take the form of a small knife. According to
Swami Rama of the Himalayas, Guru Dev used to be fond of the Sri
Yantra and used to do puja
bmorry wrote:
How many people are attending the current course to become a
recertified governor?
Apparently there are no respondents on this forum who are planning on
attending the current course to become recertified Governors. In fact,
there seems to be no Governors on this forum - correct
In a message dated 1/6/07 10:12:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
richard hughes wrote:
This would be funny if it wasn't so scary
_http://www.peer.http://wwhttp://www.phttp://www_
(http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801)
What's not so funny is that
cardemaister wrote:
Barney Trouble?
Very impressive.
The real question is why has the Swami Swaroopanand turned the
Jyotirmath tradition into a politcal football. It is well-known that
Swaroopanand has close ties to the Congress Party and to Sonia Gandhi.
Swaroopanand has been reported to be
On Jan 6, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
A phurha (sometimes transliterated phurpa or phurba) is an artifact of
the Tibetan esoteric tradition. Strictly speaking it's a ritual dart,
but it can sometimes take the form of a small knife. According to
Swami Rama of the Himalayas,
. . . maybe a main reason alot of people went to teacher training was to pay
off a debt from some previous lifetime(s).
How did Charlie ever get excluded? I stood behind him in line at the (then
new) Fairfield Baskin Robbins in 1977 and he had the poor towngirl who was
scooping the ice
Vaj wrote:
Actually the phurba cult has been known in the west for many
decades, esp. due to Alexandra David-Neel's description of it
in regards to levitating yogins.
Alexandra David-Neel probably got her first phurbu from Lama Yongden
in 1912. In The Golden Child Eddie Murphy asks the Lama
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jim_flanegin wrote:
I barely know anything about religion.
Jim - You seem to be interested in religion, this topic concerns the
stages of samadhi. I'm just trying to point out that the word samadhi
You seem to be forgetting that Shantinand was eventually declared by a later
version of the same committee to be unqualified so he stepped down.
Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter wrote:
What is the point of this thread?
Does it have to have a point, Peter? Some people
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Odd isn't it. The same people that will get all excited about
pundits coming
to Fairfield to generate the ME through yagyas, advise people on
the
benefits of mercury supplements, and avoid going outside during an
eclipse,
MDixon wrote:
Odd isn't it. The same people that will get all excited about
pundits coming to Fairfield to generate the ME through yagyas,
advise people on the benefits of mercury supplements, and avoid
going outside during an eclipse, laughing at somebody else's
beliefs that geological
Jonathan Chadwick wrote:
You seem to be forgetting that Shantinand was eventually
declared by a later version of the same committee to be
unqualified so he stepped down.
Committees down in Kashi don't get to decide who is a Shankaracharya
or not and neither do civil courts in India. In my
cardemaister wrote:
Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi.
The main distinction seems to be sabiija- vs.
nirbiija-samaadhi. The highest stage is, I guess,
dharma-megha-samaadhi.
I wonder what stage typically(?) is the one mentioned
in Vibhuuti-paada (third book). It's hardly
Richard, you make some good points. But I don't think Mahesh Yogi would ever
make the claim he surpassed his teacher. Personally I think he sees himself as
a sort of Saint Paul in relation to Jesus, if you will pardon my Christian
reference: much lower on the spiritual pecking order but he
Jonathan Chadwick wrote:
Richard, you make some good points. But I don't think Mahesh Yogi
would ever make the claim he surpassed his teacher.
A person doesn't let thier followers call you the Maharishi for
nothing. And you must think a lot of yourself if you take it upon
yourself to be God
Where did everyone go? Again, what do you think the TM movement
and
Maharishi could do to reconcile, with its meditators, teachers
and
governors?
I think they went somewhere to feed their lower selves; money and
sex. This includes former Purushas who understood that the
Hello Willtex,
There are many Governors in this group (And some are even in good
standing!)--although I expect that few or none are recertified.
Your information is incorrect.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bmorry wrote:
How many
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bmorry wrote:
How many people are attending the current course to become a
recertified governor?
Apparently there are no respondents on this forum who are planning on
attending the current course to
Richard J. Williams wrote:
All Indian mantric practices stem from the ancient Buddhists of India,
and were adopted, with modifications, by the Shiva and Vaishanava
sects as Hindu tantricism following the Gupta Age.
What is the source of this information?
However, there are no bija mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
richard hughes wrote:
This would be funny if it wasn't so scary
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801
What's not so funny is that this forum seems to have been hijacked by
athiests, who think
Hi, I just recently joined this list, but there sure does seem to be a whole
lot of arguing going on here alas. I know nothing about this Maharishi Mahesh
Yogi feller, but in their own terms and words maybe they are talking about the
same thing that I and others talk about and which we found
Atheists and Jimmy Carter supporters! My God, what have I done?
_
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusos108
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 1:29 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
I think right now the Self is sucking us back in. I've missed my program many,
many times over the past 30-something years but lately I can't seem to wait to
get back in there because the energy is so incredible. And to see Donovan
Leitch and David Lynch on the road together for TM is just a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think right now the Self is sucking us back in. I've missed my
program many, many times over the past 30-something years but lately
I can't seem to wait to get back in there because the energy is so
The third replay of Twin Peaks just started! :0
http://www.telkku.com/tiedot?oid=15971376
5 starz!!
On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Richard J. Williams wrote:
All Indian mantric practices stem from the ancient Buddhists of
India,
and were adopted, with modifications, by the Shiva and Vaishanava
sects as Hindu tantricism following the Gupta Age.
What is the source of this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi, I just recently joined this list, but there sure does seem to be
a whole lot of arguing going on here alas. I know nothing about this
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi feller, but in their own terms and words maybe
they are
Hi Dick:
It used to be a rather nice, synergistic list. Numerous people who
like to argue a lot came over from the Usenet list
alt.meditation.transcendental (which is mud-sling central, argue-till-
you-drop kinda spew-fest of a list) and many of that lists tendencies
followed from that
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--- nablusos108 wrote:
--- Richard J. Williams wrote:
bmorry wrote:
How many people are attending the current
course to become a recertified governor?
there seems to be no Governors on this
forum - correct me if I'm wrong.
I considered myself a TM Governor until the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You seem to be forgetting that Shantinand was eventually declared by a later
version of
the same committee to be unqualified so he stepped down.
After 20+ years of service. He nominated Vishndevananda in his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Golden Dome is a hollow tope void.
Fantastic.
What about the quality of the air?
Any huge Seelisberg-style fan systems installed?
Or a people breathing each other toxins during the program?
1900
On Jan 6, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
The original, pre-Buddhist phurba cult originally centered around
the Horse: The Wind Horse.
There's no pre-Buddhist phurba - you prbably meant pre-Tibetan
Buddhist phurba. The oldest evidence of a phurba iconographic device
is dated to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Golden Dome is a hollow tope void.
Fantastic.
What about the quality of the air?
Any huge Seelisberg-style fan systems installed?
Or a people breathing each other toxins during the program?
1900
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dick:
It used to be a rather nice, synergistic list. Numerous people who
like to argue a lot came over from the Usenet list
alt.meditation.transcendental (which is mud-sling central, argue-
till-you-drop kinda
John Hagelin now routinely introduces Maharshi as the greatest Vedic scholar
in the world. Are there any faculty from leading academic institutions who
e.g. teach Sanskrit who agree with this?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
John Hagelin now routinely introduces Maharshi as the greatest Vedic
scholar in the world. Are there any faculty from leading academic
institutions who e.g. teach Sanskrit who agree with this?
Is this a serious
Richard J. Williams wrote:
All Indian mantric practices stem from the ancient Buddhists
of India, and were adopted, with modifications, by the Shiva
and Vaishanava sects as Hindu tantricism following the Gupta
Age.
Bhairitu wrote:
What is the source of this information?
Most
Comment below:
**
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
**snip**
I last taught someone when my son learned his
sitting technique in 2001, but as divine as that
day was, I don't aspire to teach again.
If I had a room I could devote to the puja
authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
John Hagelin now routinely introduces Maharshi as the greatest Vedic
scholar in the world. Are there any faculty from leading academic
institutions who e.g. teach
sparaig wrote:
Shatananda was declared unqualified because he was a cook,
basically. The fact that he was Gurudev's oldest disciple didn't
matter to the scholars.
There's no evidence that I can find that would indicate that
Shantanand was a cook by profession. According to the Times of
India,
Comment below:
**
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**snip**
Shatananda was declared unqualified because he was a cook,
basically. The fact that he
was Gurudev's oldest disciple didn't matter to the scholars.
**snip to end**
Shantanand was initated
Jonathan Chadwick wrote:
John Hagelin now routinely introduces Maharshi as the
greatest Vedic scholar in the world. Are there any
faculty from leading academic institutions who e.g.
teach Sanskrit who agree with this?
The Mahesh Yogi probably isn't a Sanskrit reader at all, but Tony
A leading western scholar, an expert on the Dandi Swamis, has come on
the record as saying that the only people in India that will meet
with Mahesh are the ones he pays.
In other words, he's not thought of very highly in his native India.
On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:18 PM, Jonathan Chadwick wrote:
Marek Reavis wrote:
Perhaps that was Shantanand's story, too; and if so, would help
explain some of the older disciples', like Karpatri Swami and
others, discomfort with the favoritism shown Shantanand (and
some of the other new chelas) and his quick ascent in what was
had become the
Vaj wrote:
A leading western scholar, an expert on the Dandi Swamis, has
come on the record as saying that the only people in India that
will meet with Mahesh are the ones he pays.
That's not what I heard - apparently the only people that get to meet
with Mahesh are ones that can pay him,
You mean like Anandamayi Moi Ma or however her name is pronounced?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A leading western scholar, an expert on the Dandi Swamis, has come on
the record as saying that the only people in India that will meet
with Mahesh are the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
John Hagelin now routinely introduces Maharshi as the greatest Vedic scholar
in the
world. Are there any faculty from leading academic institutions who e.g.
teach Sanskrit who
agree with this?
Does it
I'm a Governor and I continue to do my complete
program morning and evening.
--- Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bmorry wrote:
How many people are attending the current course
to become a
recertified governor?
Apparently there are no respondents on this forum
who are
I heard today that he passed away on December 25th. Does anyone have
any news about him?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I feel no need
to postulate a creator or a sentient being
behind any of these phenomena; every single
one of them could have come about as a result
of nothing more than the eternal dance of karma
and the free will of
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