[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a term in your spiritual vocabulary enlightened, then yes I think it does. However, I am not a spiritual person... For the record, Curtis, I think you're a *very* spiritual person. Your spirituality

[FairfieldLife] Nice David Fiske Interview

2007-01-29 Thread Rick Archer
Click Topics then the first interview. http://www.esotericarts.org/ Discusses early TM years, Tai Chi, etc.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba

2007-01-29 Thread Peter
How do I know. There is report, after report, after report of people who have spent time with Sai Baba who have seen this and those who have been abused by him. It has gotten so bad that his organization does not even deny it now, but tries to spin it into some sort of cosmic darshan or blessing.

[FairfieldLife] Hillary Hendrix?

2007-01-29 Thread cardemaister
Oh shucks, Hillary just blew it? :/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba

2007-01-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jim_flanegin Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:52 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablusos108

[FairfieldLife] Have we achieved Dvaita first?

2007-01-29 Thread surya
People often misunderstand that Dvaita is relationship between God an ordinary human being. Such relationship is only the creator- created relationship. In Dvaita, Madhva says that the relationship between God and the soul is the relationship of Master-servant. Madhva Himself kept in the

[FairfieldLife] 'Roo Group Expanding...'

2007-01-29 Thread Robert Gimbel
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070123/nytu053.html?.v=74 - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch on Alex Jones

2007-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
Bhairitu wrote: http://infowars.com/ You can download the podcast here: http://infowars.com/listen.html#podcast At around 2 hours 36 minutes. BTW, I'm looking forward to David's latest film which should be opening here in the Bay Area in a couple of weeks. However yesterday I finally got to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:55 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:35 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:25 PM, jim_flanegin

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch on Alex Jones

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I'm looking forward to David's latest film which should be opening here in the Bay Area in a couple of weeks. However yesterday I finally got to see Babel which I highly recommend. It is now #1 on my list of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Connie Larson

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You left out the part about Sai Baba playing with Connie's penis. The thing that's most fascinating to me about this whole discussion, since I've never had any attraction whatsoever to Sai Baba (siddhis don't impress me much,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Connie Larson

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
Slight correction: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yet another aspect of the same phenomenon can be seen (in my estimation) in the thread asking for people's criteria for *deeming* someone enlightened. If you'll notice, many of the people who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on several different forums of which I am a member lately,

[FairfieldLife] Divine Mother Kundalini (La Madre Divina Kundalini)

2007-01-29 Thread Robert Gimbel
DIVINE MOTHER KUNDALINI So that the old civilizations adored God-Mother? In the old civilizations one deeply adored God-Mother and an icon or symbol referring to the element never needed Mother. In old Egypt it is ISIS; in the Aztec civilization it is TONANTZIN; already by the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Nice David Fiske Interview

2007-01-29 Thread llundrub
Does it explain his geriatric and pompous knowitallicity? - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice David Fiske Interview Click Topics then the first interview.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread llundrub
I know what he means as I am a Bodhisattva through the necessity of the times but not through my desire. I really just like S, D RnR. And I'm really just a total flake and materialist hedonist, but I had to take a different view to help this beautiful planet and its sentient beings. But I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Nice David Fiske Interview

2007-01-29 Thread llundrub
I'm just kidding. It's hard to carry voice. Love you Dave. - Original Message - From: llundrub To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Nice David Fiske Interview Does it explain his geriatric and pompous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been digging the Sam Harris discussion. I haven't had the time to be generative, but I have enjoyed checking in and seeing some detailed thoughts on his debate. I look forward to your definitions in this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your tax dollars are paying for this

2007-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
suziezuzie wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentagon shows off new ray gun Washington- The US military has tested a heat ray gun that produces an intolerable heating sensation on the skin designed to repel enemies or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I've been digging the Sam Harris discussion. I haven't had the time to be generative, but I have enjoyed checking in and seeing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip So I don't really think the original question is very meaningful; and given Barry's responses to others' comments, it seems pretty clear that it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread WLeed3
THANKS Lsoma, for asking those to stick to the title or thread of the emails. MY thanks that of 6 of my lurking friends as well. Especially to the attention of Vaj.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: If you have a term in your spiritual vocabulary enlightened, then yes I think it does. However, I am not a spiritual person... For

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
I am trying to relate to the term in both ways, how do I personally relate to the term in my own life, and how do I relate to the term when others use it. This discussion reminds me of my favorite movie call Heaven by Dianne Keaton from 1983, where she asked people to descibe heaven in some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Brilliant topic. I will weigh in by tomorrow after some thought. Thanks, and thanks for giving it some thought. It goes to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread Lsoma
Your prediction about me will be wrong. :Let me tell you what will happen to me in Fairfield. I will buy a home. Wait for the passing over of MMY. Pay my respects to MMY and live in Fairfield for about two years. I will most likely marry a woman from India who I will meet in Fairfield who

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - expensive to travel to/from

2007-01-29 Thread Karen Hyde
Money: This means every time a student or Sidha business person would want to travel out from Kansas, it would be $200 more, in each direction, than what it costs from Fairfield. Add $400 to whatever we pay now per round trip. Time: Plus you would add about 1 hour more of travel to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip So I don't really think the original question is very meaningful; and given Barry's responses to others' comments, it seems pretty clear that it was intended to serve as a vehicle for putdowns by Barry of those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba

2007-01-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/29/07 3:08:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He also very, very clearly uses sleight-of-hand (and not very good sleight-of-hand at that) to manifest watches and trinkets. He is completely full of shit. He obviously has some sort of charismatic

[FairfieldLife] KT: dilettante morpho-syntactic analysis of some Brahma-suutras: 12

2007-01-29 Thread cardemaister
Topic 6 (aanandamayaadhikaraNam), suutras 12 - 19 Suutra I.1.12 (12) aanandamayo 'bhyaasaat (aananda-mayaH; abhyaasa_at) Anandamaya mf(%{I})n. blissful , made up or consisting of happiness TUp. Ma1n2d2Up. Veda1ntas. Katha1s. ; (%{am}) n. (scil. %{brahman}) the supreme spirit (as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlig

2007-01-29 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Large S Self Knows Large S Self. What else do you need to Know. Tom

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your prediction about me will be wrong. :Let me tell you what will happen to me in Fairfield. I will buy a home. Wait for the passing over of MMY. Pay my respects to MMY and live in Fairfield for about two years. I will most

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - expensive to travel to/from

2007-01-29 Thread allanrosenzweig
If they are going to offer Total Knowledge at the proposed Kansas campus, hopefully it will include Geography (SD is now the center), US History (in 1959 Alaska and Hawaii joined the USA), and Economics. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Karen Hyde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Money: This

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'

2007-01-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/25/07 2:36:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, all in all, this dark force will hopefully be subdued, by the light, and the rising consciousness, here in the United States, and around the world. To me it appears that Bush is building up to a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary Hendrix?

2007-01-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/29/07 3:19:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh shucks, Hillary just blew it? :/ _http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw) Poor thing, can't carry a tune. LOL! Well we'll have to watch and see

[FairfieldLife] Re: Connie Larson

2007-01-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think we're seeing the same phenomenon, to some extent, in the people here who get uptight and start attacking others when they question Maharishi's enlightenment. Even though even *they* admit some- times that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/29/07 7:12:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, like when Jesus, went before the Pilot; And Pilot demanded: 'Show me a miracle, then, Jew-boy! So, it just doesn't work that way... That was Herrod Antipas that asked for a little teensy weensy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Large S Self Knows Large S Self. What else do you need to Know. I can buy this one. I was speaking specifically to those who throw around the term 'enlightened' but who make no claim to be other

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: Large S Self Knows Large S Self. What else do you need to Know. I can buy this one. I was speaking

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
Jim: There also appear to be two exceptions to this 'listing' behavior, and those are the postings of Curtis and new morning. However upon closer examination, both of their postings weren't really listing criteria for non-dual Self realization, but rather desirable attributes of being, so more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/29/07 7:12:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, like when Jesus, went before the Pilot; And Pilot demanded: 'Show me a miracle, then, Jew-boy! So, it just doesn't work that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: Large S Self Knows Large

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if a person presents themselves as enlightened, I just figure they are having a compelling subjective experience, and don't think much about it unless they attempt to use this claim as a leverage point to act

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
For me enlightenment is the ability to deeply understand another person's point of view. So I do have an ideal in mind and I do strive to practice understanding what another person's world view is like in order to grow in this ability. It is more of a perspective than a state of consciousness in

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - expensive to travel to/from

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Karen Hyde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Money: This means every time a student or Sidha business person would want to travel out from Kansas, it would be $200 more, in each direction, than what it costs from Fairfield. Add $400 to whatever we pay now per

[FairfieldLife] Satyananda on Swami Brahmanada's passing

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
John Manning posted this on the a.m.t. newsgroup... [NOTE: Brahmachari Satyanand had been a disciple of Guru Dev for many years. He later worked with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to help bring Transcendental Meditation to the world. I had the great honor of having met and spoken with him two

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim: There also appear to be two exceptions to this 'listing' behavior, and those are the postings of Curtis and new morning. However upon closer examination, both of their postings weren't really listing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Indian economy bigger than U.S. in 2050

2007-01-29 Thread Jason Spock
India can do better than that. But even india finds it difficult to compete with China's subsidised manufacturing. But in the Long term only two countries have the heft to challenge US. Russia and Brazil. Russian economy is bouncing back. India and China have to

[FairfieldLife] The End of Tibet

2007-01-29 Thread Vaj
Very long Rolling Stone Article: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/13247913/the_end_of_tibet

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch on Alex Jones

2007-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I'm looking forward to David's latest film which should be opening here in the Bay Area in a couple of weeks. However yesterday I finally got to see Babel which I highly recommend. It is now

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **snip** Me: To address consciousness more head on, I believe that people can alter the way their minds functions radically through meditation. It happened to me so I don't have any reason

[FairfieldLife] KT: dilettante morpho-syntactic analysis of some Brahma-suutras: 10

2007-01-29 Thread cardemaister
Topic (adhikaraNa) 5 consists of suutras 5 - 11. Suutra I.1.10 gatisaamaanyaat (gati-saamaanya-at: going-similarity-from) Glossary: gati [guttee] f. going, flying, motion i.g.; going on progress; course, path, way, manner; getting to obtaining, acquirement (gen., loc. or ---); going

[FairfieldLife] Re: KT: dilettante morpho-syntactic analysis of some Brahma-suutras: 10

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Topic (adhikaraNa) 5 consists of suutras 5 - 11. Suutra I.1.10 gatisaamaanyaat (gati-saamaanya-at: going-similarity-from) Glossary: gati [guttee] f. going, flying, motion i.g.; going on progress;

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread llundrub
I think you'll be awesome there and have loads of friends. Congratulations!!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread Lsoma
Thank you. Hope to meet you personally when I move to Fairfield. Love and Light. Lou Valentino

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me enlightenment is the ability to deeply understand another person's point of view. IMO, the best comment made so far in this thread, including any of mine. So I do have an ideal in mind and I do strive

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread llundrub
I live in New Orleans. But I went to FF after Katrina at Rick's behest and may yet do so again someday. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD

[FairfieldLife] Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
*Very* interesting blog post describing a recently published (in a highly reputable journal) carefully controlled study of the effects of psilocybin on 36 volunteers, in which two-thirds of the subjects reported that the experience was among either the five most or single most meaningful

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch on Alex Jones

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: For those who speak French, the new film Hors de prix, starring Audrey Tautou, is a lightweight delight. Sort of like Pretty Woman, but with a cute twist. She is gorgeous playing sexy (something

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 nablusos108@ wrote: How do you know for sure ? In my opinion this is just wild speculation, possible fed by rampant corruption in indian politics.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent points, Curtis, (gee, and from a non-spiritual primatologist at that). Just a few comments from my end, however. The fact that you have had experiences of my Self being the essence of the universe and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread Lsoma
Please let me know if your in town. I feel for the people of New Orleans. All of the talk of Iraq and even Iran. All the money spent. Lives lost. Most of the money should have been spent on rebuilding our own country. We don't even hear anything about New Orleans and the surrounding areas. I

[FairfieldLife] Mahasarasvati

2007-01-29 Thread bob_brigante
Maharishi after the Puja to Mahasarasvati on Vasant Panchami Day, 23 January 2007 Jai Guru Dev. Having done Puja to Guru Dev today on this Vasant Panchami Day, the day of Mahasarasvati; having worshipped Mahasarasvati today, we are resolving with the grace of Guru Dev to have our world

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread llundrub
New Orleans will become the rally cry for a New America, mark my word, and it will become the first floating whore of a city in the nation and a real fun place to live like Amsterdam but on wheels. I have pujas and yajnas done on behalf of New Orleans so people who move here get that grace just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
I heard the scientist who did the study on NPR He had chosen people who were already religious because he felt that they would be able to handle the awareness shift better. I think that skews the results a bit but I am happy to see experiments with hallucinogens again. I think this is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
Of course, samadhi is neither meaningful nor an experience... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Very* interesting blog post describing a recently published (in a highly reputable journal) carefully controlled study of the effects of psilocybin on 36

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahasarasvati

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
Curtis, dude. Do you want a real trip of an exercise in trying to deeply understand another person's point of view? Read this from *his* point of view, as if he believes every word. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi after the Puja to

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Orleans will become the rally cry for a New America, mark my word, and it will become the first floating whore of a city in the nation and a real fun place to live like Amsterdam but on wheels. I have pujas and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?

2007-01-29 Thread Lsoma
Sounds great. Keep up the many blessings you are providing for New Orleans and the surrounding areas. Lou.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
Me: I'm glad you weighed in, I enjoyed your post. I don't mean to discount the experiences of alternate states of consciousness as profound or even useful. I just have a different view of what they mean. Marek: But from its own platform, the recognition of that underlying Awareness that is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/29/07 12:33:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, like when Jesus, went before the Pilot; And Pilot demanded: 'Show me a miracle, then, Jew-boy! So, it just doesn't work that way... That was Herrod Antipas that asked for a little teensy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard the scientist who did the study on NPR He had chosen people who were already religious because he felt that they would be able to handle the awareness shift better. I think that skews the results a bit.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, samadhi is neither meaningful nor an experience... Huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: *Very* interesting blog post describing a recently published (in a highly reputable

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahasarasvati

2007-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
Rewind 20 years and this was me. Every detail and more! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, dude. Do you want a real trip of an exercise in trying to deeply understand another person's point of view? Read this from *his* point of view,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/29/07 12:33:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, like when Jesus, went before the Pilot; And Pilot demanded: 'Show me a miracle, then, Jew-boy! So, it just doesn't work that

[FairfieldLife] Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
Another fun idea for a thread. (That is to say, *I* think it sounds like fun, but by now you've all got a pretty clear idea of what my idea of fun is like, so be warned.) We're all denizens of Fairfield Life, right? A few of us are actual residents of Fairfield, Iowa. So, to those of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another fun idea for a thread. (That is to say, *I* think it sounds like fun, but by now you've all got a pretty clear idea of what my idea of fun is like, so be warned.) We're all denizens of Fairfield Life,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The mechanics of True Believerism?

2007-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 28, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Rick Archer wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 6:35 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:25 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Vaj, Barry, and 'kalidevi' are all perfect examples of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Another fun idea for a thread. (That is to say, *I* think it sounds like fun, but by now you've all got a pretty clear idea of what my idea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I heard the scientist who did the study on NPR He had chosen people who were already religious because he felt that they would be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahasarasvati

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, dude. Do you want a real trip of an exercise in trying to deeply understand another person's point of view? Read this from *his* point of view, as if he believes every word. Are you even hinting at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahasarasvati

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Curtis, dude. Do you want a real trip of an exercise in trying to deeply understand another person's point of view? Read this from *his*

Re: [FairfieldLife] DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP!

2007-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 29, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Rick Archer wrote: DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP! Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this message which matters ! Sounds like a Purusha guy who needs to get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Of course, samadhi is neither meaningful nor an experience... Huh? What is the meaning of samadhi? Who experiences it? And the characterization of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another fun idea for a thread. (That is to say, *I* think it sounds like fun, but by now you've all got a pretty clear idea of what my idea of fun is like, so be warned.) We're all denizens of Fairfield Life,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Another fun idea for a thread. (That is to say, *I* think it sounds like fun, but by now you've all got a pretty clear idea of what my idea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Another fun idea for a thread. (That is to say, *I* think it sounds like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahasarasvati

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Curtis, dude. Do you want a real trip of an exercise in trying to deeply

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me that a non-TMer/non-former-TMer visiting the place physically would be in a better position to answer the question than contributers to any self-selected forum about Fairfield. A perfectly legitimate,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
I agree that more research is needed on all types of people. At least it is a start. He was paying attention to Leary's concept of set and setting as critical components of the experience which I think is wise. Another psychedelic researcher, Dr. Stanislav Groff switched to using breathing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Another fun idea for a thread. (That is to say, *I* think it sounds like

[FairfieldLife] Re: DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP!

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 29, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Rick Archer wrote: DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP! Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Of course, samadhi is neither meaningful nor an experience... Huh? What is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another fun idea for a thread. (That is to say, *I* think it sounds like fun, but by now you've all got a pretty clear idea of what my idea of fun is like, so be warned.) We're all denizens of Fairfield Life,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Seems to me that a non-TMer/non-former-TMer visiting the place physically would be in a better position to answer the question than contributers to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Seems to me that a non-TMer/non-former-TMer visiting the place physically would be in a better position to answer the question than contributers to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mushrooms and Mystical Experience

2007-01-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Of course,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality -- Maharishi's life in Fairfield, or Fairfield Life?

2007-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip So what do you think, Fairfield-ites? Which more reflects the 'reality' (from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me: I'm glad you weighed in, I enjoyed your post. I don't mean to discount the experiences of alternate states of consciousness as profound or even useful. I just have a different view of what

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