[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" > wrote: > Serious seizure > > disorder with control issues? I would not be inclined to want that > > person to practice the siddhis without good evidence

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:34 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > Likewise, they can read the article in question by travis et al, > > > which the afo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:34 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > Likewise, they can read the article in question by travis et al, > > > which the afo

[FairfieldLife] Entertaining Offers From Several Religions

2008-03-02 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/279ks5

[FairfieldLife] The Bush tragedy

2008-03-02 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/2fam2x ( http://www.motherjones.com/riff_blog/archives/2008/01/6989_george_w_bush\ _m.html )

[FairfieldLife] The Language of Autism

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
Mind-bending article in "Wired" about autistic people and researchers of autism who are challenging the "disease model" of autism and suggesting that autistic people aren't damaged, aren't dysfunctional, just different. This goes WAY beyond Temple Grandin, BTW. Don't miss the video, made by an au

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reunion

2008-03-02 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > Have a Kleenex handy; this is heartwarming. > > > > These two guys raised a lion pup, then had to > > release him into the wild when he got too

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Serious seizure > disorder with control issues? I would not be inclined to want that > person to practice the siddhis without good evidence of its safety. > Love quoting myself. ;) Brief discussion of the possibl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reunion

2008-03-02 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have a Kleenex handy; this is heartwarming. > > These two guys raised a lion pup, then had to > release him into the wild when he got too big. > They came to look for him a year later and... > > http://www.youtube.c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lawson, is Travis's study published by any third party journals, or > just by TMO affiliates? Travis, F., Arenander, A., & DuBois, D. (2004). Psychological and physiological characteristics of a proposed object-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The objection isn't that TM produces "epileptic-like signs," because the signs included > those that might be found in mystics,creative people, etc., everywhere, with or without > epilepsy. The objection was the con

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:34 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > Likewise, they can read the article in question by travis et al, > > which the aforementioned > > book dismisses so cavalierly (IMHO, of course): > > > > http://www.b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > > mailander111@ wrote: > > > > > > > 3. A neuro-scientist has a stroke and as a result

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:34 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > [...] > > > What a pathetic response. I suspect you actually absorbed very > > little > > > of what I was actually sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-03-02 Thread mainstream20016
FFL #166999, a later post, said the following: "XXX was just here. We both agreed that Dr. Mahapatra is probably the "Dr GM" referred to in the email disputing what Chopra said about MMY in London, etc. He fits the description exactly. He was MMY's personal physician (or that's how he descr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > mailander111@ wrote: > > > 3. A neuro-scientist has a stroke and as a result has > > an experience which she describes and which I > > recognize as one I can have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reunion

2008-03-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have a Kleenex handy; this is heartwarming. > > These two guys raised a lion pup, then had to > release him into the wild when he got too big. > They came to look for him a year later and... > > http://www.youtube.c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Increased IA Grant Support

2008-03-02 Thread mainstream20016
It's really wonderful that Mr. and Mrs. Settle agreed to donate $ 1 m / month for Invincible America. The really revealing question is - Has $1 mil / month been transferred to the TMO since the beginning of the IA program July, 2006 ? Please be specific as to the amounts actually transfer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Increased IA Grant Support

2008-03-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote: We urgently need more Yogic Flyers in Iowa. That is why I am pleased to announce two new policies that will make participating in the Invincible America Assembly easier and more accessible for everyone. Beginning today: 1. Effective Apr

[FairfieldLife] Reunion

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
Have a Kleenex handy; this is heartwarming. These two guys raised a lion pup, then had to release him into the wild when he got too big. They came to look for him a year later and... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr1pWzoLvT8

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Byrds - Change is Now

2008-03-02 Thread pavvlovs_dog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUVTEkfPliE > > > Change is Now - The Notorious Byrd Brothers 1968>> Looks like Beelzebub and Jim Morrison havin' a party. --PavlovsDog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Increased IA Grant Support

2008-03-02 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does it matter if you're bi-polar or not? > HYPERLINK > "http://invincibleamerica.org/emailing/images/masthead.jpg"invincibleamerica > /7D8341F1.jpg > > > > Announcing: > > > > Two initiatives to make the In

[FairfieldLife] Re: CBS News -- Maharishi Vedic City

2008-03-02 Thread pavvlovs_dog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ytxonq > > > > This should load and begin automatically. It worked for me with Firefox > > > > No virus found in this outgoing mes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blaine Watson: 1994

2008-03-02 Thread pavvlovs_dog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In 1982 Maharishi asked us to make ourselves expert in Jyotish>> Jyotish Smyotish. --PavlovsDog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are over 1600 google hits to google: > > > > search: PCE "pure consciousness" > > > > http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en- > > us&q=PCE+pure+consciousness&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 > > > > or > > > > http://tinyur

[FairfieldLife] Re: My posts

2008-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2008, at 8:09 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > For some reason, Yahoo often flags a few people's posts as possible > spam. > You're one of them. So they sit there in limbo until I approve them. > I just > approved four a little while ago after coming back from a long walk. I > haven't yet f

[FairfieldLife] The Byrds - Change is Now

2008-03-02 Thread do.rflex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUVTEkfPliE Change is Now - The Notorious Byrd Brothers 1968 Change is now, change is now Things that seemed to be solid are not All is now, all is now The time that we have to live Gather all that we can Keep in harmony with love's sweet plan Truth is real, tr

[FairfieldLife] Increased IA Grant Support

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Archer
HYPERLINK "http://invincibleamerica.org/emailing/images/masthead.jpg"invincibleamerica /7D8341F1.jpg Announcing: Two initiatives to make the Invincible America Assembly more accessible to every Yogic Flyer Dear Fellow Yogic Flyer, America is at a crossroads. With the epic US presi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:34 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > What a pathetic response. I suspect you actually absorbed very little > of what I was actually saying (or what these other fine scientists are > saying) because you are s

[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread Vaj
3rd sending! On Mar 2, 2008, at 12:19 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: [...] > > All the paper is is an honest assessment of current meditation > > research and because it expos

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2008, at 12:19 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: [...] > > All the paper is is an honest assessment of current meditation > > research and because it exposes some blata

[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2008, at 12:19 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: [...] > > All the paper is is an honest assessment of current meditation > > research and because it exposes some blata

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What a pathetic response. I suspect you actually absorbed > > > very little of what I was actually saying (or what these > > > other fine scientists are saying) because you are so damn > > > busy protecting your "castle".

[FairfieldLife] Re: audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > wrote: > > > > Fact is, these people now are mood making. > > The problem of which is that it's hard to keep that up. > > Especially when others think - oh such and such is so profound. > > Such and such ca

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:17 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > When someone with an agenda makes obviously factually > > > > inaccurate statements, as Chopra has and as the > > > > Buddhist researchers have (not to mention as Vaj

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-02 Thread Kirk
Mahakali explained many things to me Yeah, in dreams. When I was asleep. No not when I was awake. I don't see Her like that. Hahaha. I'm no Ramakrishna. As if.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: The > > technology was quite sufficient back then and the results are > > the same today, although of course I'm sure TM researchers > > would love us to believe that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread Vaj
I posted it twice. It still hasn't appeared on the list. Sometimes there are delays of 6 hours or more. I tried to cut-&-paste the text into the website (which typically does post quickly), but all the indents and quotations are lost if you do that, rendering it unreadable. It should post

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-02 Thread Kirk
Well, I felt it too, but then I also consider that it has to do with being immersed in the contemplation of his death and also the idea of some 25,000 meditators all being witness to his death collectively in India. I am just pointing out that last week such feelings were timely, next week you'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
Vaj, I'd rather you respond in the public forum rather than in email. With your permission I'll post what you sent me, or you can repost. Or you can reconsider your remarks and post something else. Your choice. lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Story from Ben Collins

2008-03-02 Thread lurkernomore20002000
there was this look on his face that was like "Mahesh Yogi can get these westerners > to do 40 years of meditation and how hard that is to accomplish here in India." Whatis the caloric intake of the average Indian?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:17 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > When someone with an agenda makes obviously factually > > > > inaccurate statements, as Chopra has and as the > > > > Buddhist researchers have (not to mention as Vaj

[FairfieldLife] Re: CBS News -- Maharishi Vedic City

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/ytxonq > > This should load and begin automatically. It worked for me with Firefox > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blaine Watson: 1994

2008-03-02 Thread vlodrop108
--- "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This would end up being the last time > i spent in his environment and one > of the last times anyone was going to > see him personally. A year or so later > he began to retreat to his own rooms > and connected with people via video. What nonsense! Ho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:17 PM, authfriend wrote: > > When someone with an agenda makes obviously factually > > inaccurate statements, as Chopra has and as the > > Buddhist researchers have (not to mention as Vaj has), > > there's always a question of deliberate dishonesty. > > What a pathetic resp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for a News Junkie

2008-03-02 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Might want to check out last Suknday's New York Times Magazine --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can anyone answer this? > > > > Hi Rick, > > I'm trying to track down a story that I heard, I think, on NPR while driving > sometime within the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > What a pathetic response. I suspect you actually absorbed very little > of what I was actually saying (or what these other fine scientists are > saying) because you are so damn busy protecting your "castle". The > te

Angela: (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium)

2008-03-02 Thread Hagen J. Holtz
Very interesting what you say, Angela, so I have to get along now with your cantilevered delineation of complex circumstances. I hope I am able to live up to your expectations, trying to confine myself to what I esteem to be the most essential out of your elaborations. You said: To my mind, ho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread Angela Mailander
I'm not writing off anyone, least of all the neuro-scientists. I'm merely making the point that "regulating" religion is a dangerous game. Not doing so can be equally dangerous. I am not unaware of the practical successes of spiral dynamics. IQ tests had/have their practical successes also while

[FairfieldLife] Spiritual vs Spiritualism

2008-03-02 Thread dhamiltony2k5
> > > What is the difference? Are they different on a continum or > > entirely > > > different? This "overshadowing" or 'channeling'. > > > > > > Invoking disembodied beings one way or another, just different > > > frequencies of praying or communication? Just wondering. > > > > > > -Doug

[FairfieldLife] Re: Corrections to Dr Chopra's article on "The Maharishi Years - the Untold Stor

2008-03-02 Thread vlodrop108
--- "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My guess is that Deepak was telling the truth, > with some embellishment and fuzziness do to > lapse of time, and GM (Girish Momaya?) is trying > to whitewash it for posterity. GM is definitely not Girish Momaya. Girish is not an MD!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:01 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:26 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > Er, there's no such thing as a "scientific proof

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:01 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:26 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Er, there's no such thing as a "scientific proof of alleged > > bias." However, the section you mention, "Meditation and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-02 Thread merlin
---dear friends, its no moodmaking, because i had a similar experience too, one day after maharishi mahesh yogijis mahasamadhi. but we are in a free country, you have the right to think what you want. everybody is creating his own world. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" <[

[FairfieldLife] CBS News -- Maharishi Vedic City

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Archer
http://tinyurl.com/ytxonq This should load and begin automatically. It worked for me with Firefox No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - Release Date: 3/1/2008 5:41 PM To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL P

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread pavvlovs_dog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Have you ever tried Opium? > > I think Opium should be a Religion. > > > > --PavlovsDog > > > -Yep, first the joy of union then the trepidation of repentance. Have > you ever gone through true opiate withdrawls

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread pavvlovs_dog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pavvlovs_dog wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" > > wrote: > > > > > > Long ago as a young adult I agreed with Freud in his saying: > > > "R

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Hagen, Lieber Landsmann, > > Now, in spiral dynamics a couple of white boys devise > a test to see how "evolved" a culture is, and then, by > some miracle, the predominantly white cultures are the > most evo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But that's just my take on the series, and I'm > weird. It's perfectly OK not to like the series. > I agree with you on the series and it was one of my favorite tv shows of all time. But you and I must be the only o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free hugs

2008-03-02 Thread itsstevemartin
It varies from year to year. I have taught hundreds of kids to read. I also teach math. How to teach reading is much like the diversity of this site. It depends on who you ask. I basicly go about it the same way as everything else. I let my experience guide me. I use common sense. Learning to

[FairfieldLife] Re: audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-02 Thread george_deforest
> wrote: > > Fact is, these people now are mood making. > The problem of which is that it's hard to keep that up. > Especially when others think - oh such and such is so profound. > Such and such cannot remain so profound for long. > > So ego boost and acceptance of holiness today. > Tomorrow t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Regarding prescription matters a funny story in a German town near Franfurt recently came up by the release of some assembly of twon councils. They decided (most probably because of economic and not so much of ethical reaso

Re: [FairfieldLife] Free hugs

2008-03-02 Thread Bhairitu
itsstevemartin wrote: > I have only been here looking at this site about a week, and well, I > thought that there were some people here who could use some free hugs. > A great video. > Steve > > http://video.yahoo.com/watch/55356/1213531 BTW, what do you teach? Do you teach multimedia studies or

[FairfieldLife] America's Sink or Swim Economy Doesn't Work

2008-03-02 Thread Bhairitu
This morning I posed a question to Turq a little off topic and I want to start a new one on that topic. I've been thinking a lot about the economic crisis and something Turq was mentioning a while back about low crime in Europe and how one could walk the streets there at night without worrying

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I claim enlightenment as a result of the regularity > of such experience, I'll be ostracized, as Rory and > Jim (a.k.a. Saint Diego) were—excommunicated as > Meister Eckhart von Hochheim was. Judy would be on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayan Calendar - 2012

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy, > > Given the contents of the above post entitled "Hillary and Obama have > no plans to end the Iraq war (interview)" -- Message #168375 -- I > AGAIN ask you what your stance is on the Blackwater private army.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Story from Ben Collins

2008-03-02 Thread Bhairitu
Many Indians, if religious, just do a puja in the morning (often brief) or rely on going to a temple every so once in a while. Some learn meditation but meditate irregularly. Some get remedial mantras from their guru or an astrologer and practice those for a limited time. And you are also r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Increased IA Grant Support

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Dick Mays wrote: > > > Announcing: > > > > Two initiatives to make the Invincible America Assembly > > more accessible to every Yogic Flyer > > To all 5 of them, in fact. > > Sal > LOL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Story from Ben Collins

2008-03-02 Thread sgrayatlarge
Many Indians are spending their time these days being more productive and raising the quality of their lives, perhaps a more pressing need. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm in > Kanchipuram for an 11 day Maha Rudra yagya (what else!). So i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Increased IA Grant Support

2008-03-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 2, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Dick Mays wrote: Announcing: Two initiatives to make the Invincible America Assembly more accessible to every Yogic Flyer To all 5 of them, in fact. Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: answer to willitex

2008-03-02 Thread Angela Mailander
Life often does not make sense. The event happened. A similar thing also happened to my friend whose life was saved from death in an extermination camp by an attack from a number of B-17s. Why did the folks in the plane do such a crazy thing to my grandmother and me? the look on the ball-turr

[FairfieldLife] Increased IA Grant Support

2008-03-02 Thread Dick Mays
Announcing: Two initiatives to make the Invincible America Assembly more accessible to every Yogic Flyer Dear Fellow Yogic Flyer, America is at a crossroads. With the epic US presidential election just months away-and with major expansionary initiatives now under way in our US movement-the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" buttsplicer@ wrote: > >> > > Its a fantastic tool to understanding how people come to religion. Why > > religion still exists in advanced societies. And how religion

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread Angela Mailander
Dear Hagen, Lieber Landsmann, I am in complete agreement with you about the danger (and the abysmal stupidity) inherent in all religions. To my mind, however, that same danger is implicit in all spiritual movements not yet crystallized into a religion. And it is lurking especially in spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayan Calendar - 2012

2008-03-02 Thread Duveyoung
Judy, Given the contents of the above post entitled "Hillary and Obama have no plans to end the Iraq war (interview)" -- Message #168375 -- I AGAIN ask you what your stance is on the Blackwater private army. Or do I still have to do more research beyond the above article until somehow, by mysti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stallion on a Frozen Lake

2008-03-02 Thread Marek Reavis
Thanks for the poetry/spirituality, Turq, and I've wondered about the origin of your posting name; I've always liked it. These poems sound and feel so much like Rumi, and not just because they're translated by Barks. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity Consciousness?

2008-03-02 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Vaj wrote: >> >>> In the tradition I practice in it is considered essential to >>> resolve "Correct View" (of the nature of ultimate reality) from >>> the very get go. If you are amiss the t

[FairfieldLife] Re: The heart wants what the heart wants

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > The odds that we would be looking at 650,000,000 currently practicing TMers > by this time > had he NOT brought out the siddhis course seem pretty slim to me. > > If the siddhis DO have some positive benefit on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary and Obama have no plans to end the Iraq war (interview)

2008-03-02 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oneradiantbeing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Journalist and author Jeremy Scahill dispels the myth that Obama or > Hillary plan to end the war in Iraq. On the contrary, by reading > the "fine print" contained within their stated positions on Iraq, > both

[FairfieldLife] Re: The heart wants what the heart wants

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe it was on this forum that I read where someone mentioned > that Maharishi was asked why he came out with the flying technique in > the manner that he did; a way that many, such as myself, would > conside

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fooling people with meditation research, TMO-style.

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: [...] > > All the paper is is an honest assessment of current meditation > > research and because it exposes some blatant exaggerations of TM > > research--which y

[FairfieldLife] Hillary and Obama have no plans to end the Iraq war (interview)

2008-03-02 Thread oneradiantbeing
Journalist and author Jeremy Scahill dispels the myth that Obama or Hillary plan to end the war in Iraq. On the contrary, by reading the "fine print" contained within their stated positions on Iraq, both Hillary and Obama intend to increase U.S. involvement once elected president: (http://www.

[FairfieldLife] Any1 know what happened& where Read Martin formerly Livinsgston ManorNY?

2008-03-02 Thread WLeed3
In a message dated 3/2/2008 9:21:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have only been here looking at this site about a week, and well, I thought that there were some people here who could use some free hugs. A great video. Steve http://video.yahoo.com/watch/55356/1

[FairfieldLife] Re: answer to willitex

2008-03-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
Angela Mailander wrote: > Here's today's blurb for Truthout: > > Winter Soldiers to Testify Against War > So, you're trying to say that John F. Kerry was guilty of raping babies when he was serving in Vietnam? This is just outrageous! The primary source for details of the Winter Soldier "Investi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for new.morning

2008-03-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: new.morning unsubscribed yesterday Nice work, shemp. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: BushCo's $4 a gallon gas

2008-03-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: > It's well known in history even at the time that > this country was being founded that the elite did > not like the "commoners" owning property. > Everything is a vast conspiracy with you. Always an 'elite' and a 'commoner'. It's all a vast conspiracy to screw Barry, a rule by

[FairfieldLife] Story from Ben Collins

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Archer
I'm in Kanchipuram for an 11 day Maha Rudra yagya (what else!). So it is genuinely a great time to be here. Here's an interesting tidbit. My chief priest here spent many years working for the Shankaracharyas...first the really old one who passed away a number of years ago (Chandrashekar

[FairfieldLife] Re: audio: Two mystical experiences by Governors after Maharishi's departure

2008-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You know, I wished to play that audio clip of the experiences to my wife, > but boy was I rather embarrased by the hypnotic music in the background. WTF > was that? It didn't sound like normal movement-sanctioned music.

[FairfieldLife] Free weekly class with Oprah and Eckhart Tolle starts Monday night

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Archer
HYPERLINK "http://www.oprah.com/obc_classic/webcast/begin/anewearth_begin_main.jsp"htt p://www.oprah.com/obc_classic/webcast/begin/anewearth_begin_main.jsp No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - Release Date: 3/1/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for new.morning

2008-03-02 Thread Alex Stanley
new.morning unsubscribed yesterday --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > new.morning wrote: > > > > --- In Fairfiel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin- please lead secular organization to teach TM

2008-03-02 Thread Kirk
I saw it. I am not moved. Is this somehow different than what that pundit has already been doing for the last 20 years? BTW whatever happened to Margaret? - Original Message - From: "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re

[FairfieldLife] Re: answer to willitex

2008-03-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
> Yes, B-17's can dive. > But, why would a high-flying bomber like a B-17 dive to ten feet off the ground to file bullets at a fleeing grandmother and child? Obviously, a bomber could drop a bomb and wipe out you and your gramma with the push of a sungle button. Or, are you suggesting that the B-1

[FairfieldLife] Question for a News Junkie

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Archer
Can anyone answer this? Hi Rick, I'm trying to track down a story that I heard, I think, on NPR while driving sometime within the last month or two. I've been searching the NPR site and haven't found it yet. My memory of the story is a bit vague. I thought I'd see if you happened to have heard

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread Kirk
> If you'll think back, John doesn't actually > *perform* any of the miracles attributed to > him in the series. They just happen around > him, and not by his design. He seems at times > as befuddled by them as anyone else. -Actually if you think back, near the end of the series John shows up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayan Calendar - 2012

2008-03-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You smack me for my ruse, but the War Monger gets no backhanding > from you? Did you, maybe once a few years ago, speak your piece > about THE WAR MONGER and now you leave it at that? I've been backhanding him for years

[FairfieldLife] Question for new.morning

2008-03-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > new.morning wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >> new.morning wrote: > > >> > > >>> --- In Fairfield

[FairfieldLife] The heart wants what the heart wants

2008-03-02 Thread shempmcgurk
I believe it was on this forum that I read where someone mentioned that Maharishi was asked why he came out with the flying technique in the manner that he did; a way that many, such as myself, would consider irresponsible and that, more than any other reason, was the cause of the quick and irr

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin- please lead secular organization to teach TM

2008-03-02 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > -Not gonna happen. I tried to contact Lynch, but he never >received my > emails. Instead his assistants corresponded with me. Yeah, not going to be Lynch. Though he may yet help Hagelin give it a go. Look inst

[FairfieldLife] What is it about the Star Spangled Banner?

2008-03-02 Thread Duveyoung
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKCVS57j284 For whatever it's worth, the American educational system hard wired me for patriotism. Tears flow when I hear the national anthem. The above performance by The Cactus Cuties is so sweet. Edg

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion as Opium

2008-03-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 1, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Tom wrote: That was Marx. "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes" from his Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right. Are you sure that wasn't Groucho Marx? Sal

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