[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: First of all if we want to talk about having a simplistic understanding of the Hindu religious beliefs I have to object to your using Krishna's statement about the unfathomable nature of Karma out of

[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different

2010-03-10 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: http://gimundo.com/videos/view/wonderful-guitar-music-from-botswana/ This is one of the most entertaining and sensual guitar

[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama to talk in Madison

2010-03-10 Thread Buck
Dalai Lama's talk in Madison on May 16 is free FW: Dear friends: His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Dr. Richard Davidson will appear for a public discussion on Sunday, May 16 at 2:15pm at the Overture Center, University of Wisconsin in Madison. Tickets are free, and will be available in

[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev - What do we say is a jagadguru?

2010-03-10 Thread do.rflex
In samsara there are two sorts of people - astika (religious) and nastika (unbeliever) - in the world of the atheist there isn't any guru. Of the world of the astika (religious) that guru should really be called jagadguru. Amongst the religious there are two kinds of believers. Some folk are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pitta and samaadhi?

2010-03-10 Thread Vaj
On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:32 PM, WillyTex wrote: You're just too biased to sound very convincing. Vaj: Love those straw men, don't you? You mean, all those 'straw' girls that got 'fingered' by all those Hindu Swamis down in Texas, just because one Swami was charged? I never mentioned

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev - What do we say is a jagadguru?

2010-03-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: In samsara there are two sorts of people - astika (religious) and nastika (unbeliever) - in the world of the atheist there isn't any guru. *Not* to get into debating What Guru Dev believed or didn't believe (because the guy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev - What do we say is a jagadguru?

2010-03-10 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: In samsara there are two sorts of people - astika (religious) and nastika (unbeliever) - in the world of the atheist there isn't any guru. *Not* to

[FairfieldLife] When a Republican electoral victory is a good thing

2010-03-10 Thread do.rflex
When a Republican electoral victory is a good thing by kos http://kos.dailykos.com/ - Mar 09, 2010 Phew http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/creationist-cum-mccar\ thy-booster_rejected_by_texas_republicans.php . The top conservative activist on the powerful Texas Board of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev - What do we say is a jagadguru?

2010-03-10 Thread WillyTex
...in the world of the atheist there isn't any guru. TurquoiseB: Not true. Buddhists are essentially atheists in that they have no need to postulate a sentient God of any kind... You are incorrect. Obviously you have not spent any time with practicing Buddhists, Turq. Traditional

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: I don't think it makes any sense to object to ideas *unless* they are the cause of bad actions. The thing is, certain ideas can lead to good actions as well as bad ones, depending on the interpretation and inclinations of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pitta and samaadhi?

2010-03-10 Thread WillyTex
Vaj: I never mentioned anyone other than your guru-neighbor. It's just that many of your comments seem to imply that your gurus are better than mine, and that you're a better person for it. As I pointed out, some of your gurus have been anything but role models. But, just because your guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: I do

2010-03-10 Thread WillyTex
Now I think a global collapse of the economy would actually be a good thing... So, you're in favor of mass starvation on a global scale, in order to elimnate most of the population on the planet... Bhairitu: who said there would be mass starvation if this happens?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Many excellent points. If the people who claim to know are few and have no social power or status, they are merely cultists. But if the people who claim to know happen to be the ruling class of a country, what they know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pitta and samaadhi?

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Your comments just seem prejudiced against Hindus and Texans. In Texas, those charged with crimes are assumed to innocent until proven guilty, *in a trial*. I've seen a lot of westerns that were set in Texas. From what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I think going after the religion rather than the behavior risks becoming a crusade and even a pogrom (figuratively speaking), and it doesn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread WillyTex
Curtis: I am proposing that karmic thoery is not just the basis for cruelty in the vast majority of its believer's lives... You didn't state what is the 'karmic theory'. The karmic theory in South Asia is the law of action-reaction. It's just like the theory of causation. Karma means

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread TurquoiseB
I'm really glad you replied to this, Curtis. And so well. I simply couldn't believe that someone could suggest that ideas shouldn't be challenged unless someone takes the idea and does something wrong with it. If that were true, someone could defend Sarah Palin's belief that she can see Russia

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Many excellent points. If the people who claim to know are few and have no social power or status, they are merely cultists. But if the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pitta and samaadhi?

2010-03-10 Thread WillyTex
Your comments just seem prejudiced against Hindus and Texans. In Texas, those charged with crimes are assumed to innocent until proven guilty, *in a trial*... Curtis: I've seen a lot of westerns that were set in Texas. From what I've seen the process is to swarm someone accused

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I don't think it makes any sense to object to ideas *unless* they are the cause of bad actions. The thing is, certain ideas can lead to good

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB: I *DARE* anyone here to try to come up with an idea so holy that it cannot be challenged. Or a book. I'll wait... So, that's your *idea* of a strawman argument?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: [snip] But in the case of the karmic thoery and its social manifestation in the caste system the numbers are reversed. We have millions of people who believe in this thoery outside India who may not be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I'm really glad you replied to this, Curtis. And so well. I simply couldn't believe that someone could suggest that ideas shouldn't be challenged unless someone takes the idea and does something wrong with it. If that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I think going after the religion rather than the behavior risks

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: TurquoiseB: I *DARE* anyone here to try to come up with an idea so holy that it cannot be challenged. Or a book. I'll wait... So, that's your *idea* of a strawman argument? If he didn't believe in strawman arguments,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: First of all if we want to talk about having a simplistic understanding of the Hindu religious beliefs I have to object to your using

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] A proud day for Democrats

2010-03-10 Thread sgrayatlarge
Perfect transparency We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it -House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

[FairfieldLife] Obama Defies Pessimists as Rising Economy Converges With Stocks

2010-03-10 Thread do.rflex
Obama Defies Pessimists as Rising Economy Converges With Stocks By Mike Dorning [220] March 10 (Bloomberg) -- The political consensus may be that President Barack Obama http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Barack+Obamasite=wnewsclient=wne\

[FairfieldLife] Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread Rick Archer
http://thefastertimes.com/india/2010/03/08/sex-and-the-single-swami-why-indi as-gurus-cant-keep-it-in-their-loincloths/

[FairfieldLife] The Crazies part 2

2010-03-10 Thread Bhairitu
As I mentioned in my recent brief review of The Crazies a remake of the George Romero 1973 film of the same name and some of it shot about 150 miles due west of Fairfield in Lenox and Winterset, I felt the remake lacked edge so went in search of the original 1973 version. To my dismay (and no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pitta and samaadhi?

2010-03-10 Thread Vaj
On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:56 AM, WillyTex wrote: Vaj: I never mentioned anyone other than your guru-neighbor. It's just that many of your comments seem to imply that your gurus are better than mine, and that you're a better person for it. As I pointed out, some of your gurus have been anything

[FairfieldLife] George Dubya Bush in a Dream

2010-03-10 Thread John
In my dream, I submitted a short paper to Bush about my analysis of a small town called Sausalito in California. He read it and appeared to approve the contents of the report. But he soon rewrote the paper to include his own thoughts using words that came from prior reports, using typical

[FairfieldLife] Re: A proud day for Democrats

2010-03-10 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Perfect transparency We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it -House Speaker Nancy Pelosi It was a poor choice of wording, although you DID leave off the rest of the sentence. Here is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Dubya Bush in a Dream

2010-03-10 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: In my dream, I submitted a short paper to Bush about my analysis of a small town called Sausalito in California. He read it and appeared to approve the contents of the report. But he soon rewrote the paper to include his own

Re: [FairfieldLife] A proud day for Democrats

2010-03-10 Thread Mike Dixon
Curiosity killed the cat. From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 9:21:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A proud day for Democrats   Perfect transparency We have to pass the bill so you can find

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did you have this experience in India ? If so how did it influence you ?

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: jstein@ wrote: I think going after the religion rather than the behavior risks becoming a crusade and even a pogrom (figuratively speaking), and it doesn't affect the behavior. I missed this first time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Dubya Bush in a Dream

2010-03-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 10, 2010, at 1:00 PM, mainstream20016 wrote: Does anyone know what the symbolism of this dream means? Sausalito has a new village idiot. LOL Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq: Does the snow in Spain....

2010-03-10 Thread Bhairitu
ShempMcGurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Nah. It's just Mother Earth trying to rid herself of an outbreak of humanus. ;-) Humanus...is that hummous made with human flesh instead of chick peas? You're such a falafel.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread BillyG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: http://thefastertimes.com/india/2010/03/08/sex-and-the-single-swami-why-indi as-gurus-cant-keep-it-in-their-loincloths/ I always thought he looked kind of hokey! He is apparently taking advantage of gullible people and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread Mike Dixon
Didn't get to see the link, but didn't Satya Sai Baba like to suck the bad karma out of cute little boys? From: BillyG wg...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 11:52:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq: Does the snow in Spain....

2010-03-10 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: also fall in Sitges? :-D http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/09/spain-snowstorms-wreak-havoc Yup, it did. Pretty surprising. I looked up from work and big snowflakes the size of mothballs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread sgrayatlarge
In this day and age why would anyone follow a guru? Enlightenment? Liberation? Burn Karma? Not likely folks, wake up and smell the chai To quote the great GK Chesterton- When Man ceases to worship God he does not worship nothing but worships everything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: A proud day for Democrats

2010-03-10 Thread sgrayatlarge
Why can't Obama clearly explain what the hell is trying to shove down our throats, because he can't and that's why each day the polls to support this garbage legislation keeps going down the ol' drain --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: A proud day for Democrats

2010-03-10 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Why can't Obama clearly explain what the hell is trying to shove down our throats, because he can't You haven't been paying attention. Did you miss the recent publicly broadcast 7 hour meeting Obama had with the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread Vaj
On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Didn't get to see the link, but didn't Satya Sai Baba like to suck the bad karma out of cute little boys? Yes, but he never swallowed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: In this day and age why would anyone follow a guru? Enlightenment? Liberation? Burn Karma? Not likely folks, wake up and smell the chai To quote the great GK Chesterton- When Man ceases to worship God he does not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: Didn't get to see the link, but didn't Satya Sai Baba like to suck the bad karma out of cute little boys? Yes, but he never swallowed. OK, *this* is the answer to Nabby's and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread sgrayatlarge
Yes Curtis, how about everyone in the west to grow up, start acting like adults, stop wearing the loin cloth diapers, stupid beads, amulets that protect you from nothing,chant childish love songs to false gods, stop worshipping rocks and mountains, the ganges is a polluted stream of water that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: In this day and age why would anyone follow a guru? Enlightenment? Liberation? Burn Karma? Not likely folks, wake up and smell the

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi: The immense value of being on a long-rounding program

2010-03-10 Thread Dick Mays
Poster in the Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome March 8-10, 2010 Speaking to a rounding course, Maharishi emphasized the immense value of being on a long rounding program. It's such a great opportunity. It's such a great opportunity to start living this knowledge. That is why I'm

[FairfieldLife] And the lucky country is El Salvidore

2010-03-10 Thread It's just a ride
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:28:52 + Subject: Good TM News From South America From: john4bu...@gmail.com Good TM News From South America In Mexico, Sidhi instruction continues in the schools, and corporate projects are beginning. In Guatemala the project to instruct the prison population is

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2010-03-10 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Mar 06 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Mar 13 00:00:00 2010 466 messages as of (UTC) Wed Mar 10 22:49:57 2010 47 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 45 ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@netscape.net 40 authfriend

[FairfieldLife] The myth of 'green' jobs.....

2010-03-10 Thread BillyG
http://www.youtube.com/user/thedailybeck?blend=3ob=4#p/u/12/H6IY0UK9O2k

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread sgrayatlarge
He rocks because he's wise, something that's very refreshing around here. Maybe he represents an adult level of Christianity that is rarely seen or reported, only Sunday school jibberish that seems to resonant with the the cultural creatives who couldn't be bothered by all matters serious or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pitta and samaadhi?

2010-03-10 Thread tartbrain
But, just because your guru had a mistress doesn't prove that ... I would tend to choose the guru with the mistress. He/She became fully Liberated while bonking their brains out -- and their liberation is stable even amongst the bright sun of all out sex. Thus their methods are powerful.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Defies Pessimists as Rising Economy Converges With Stocks

2010-03-10 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Obama Defies Pessimists as Rising Economy Converges With Stocks By Mike Dorning [220] March 10 (Bloomberg) -- The political consensus may be that President Barack Obama

[FairfieldLife] This is what I've been saying all along

2010-03-10 Thread ShempMcGurk
For those who think that we don't already have socialized medicine in the United States, think again. We already have humungous spending by government in the healthcare field...and this article confirms it. Half of every healthcare dollar spent in the United States is by the government. From:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: In this day and age why would anyone follow a guru? Enlightenment? Liberation? Burn Karma? Not likely folks, wake up and smell the chai

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Dubya Bush in a Dream

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: In my dream, I submitted a short paper to Bush about my analysis of a small town called Sausalito in California. He read it and appeared to approve the contents of the report. But he soon rewrote the paper to include his own

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
When Man ceases to worship God he does not worship nothing but worships everything. What a fantastic quote! FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: You do realize the quote is not recommending that one stop worshiping God, but rather the opposite, right?--- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: He rocks because he's wise, something that's very refreshing around here. Maybe he represents an adult level of Christianity that is rarely seen or reported, only Sunday school jibberish that seems to resonant with the the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Nithyananda Sex Scandal (Watch Video) | India

2010-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: When Man ceases to worship God he does not worship nothing but worships everything. What a fantastic quote! FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: You do realize the quote

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Dubya Bush in a Dream

2010-03-10 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: In my dream, I submitted a short paper to Bush about my analysis of a small town called Sausalito in California. He read it and appeared to approve the