[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread wgm4u
I think it would require 8000 'Guru Devs' in order to have a real World effect, then, they would actually be functioning from the 'home of all the laws of nature', IMHO. (And not just a faint awareness of it, which is significant but not enough in itself). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mystery of Consciousness

2011-10-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: There is that cryptic creation hymn from the Rig Veda which seems to be permeated with this kind of ambiguity: [Translation by Ralph T.H. Griffith in 1896 - perhaps cardmaister would have a shot at

[FairfieldLife] OPERA neutrino anomaly?

2011-10-22 Thread cardemaister
Do you believe ONA is real? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPERA_neutrino_anomaly

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: I would not be so hard on the folks that bought in to this stuff in the TMO. Many had

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread merudanda
talking about craziness --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher no_reply@... wrote: Researchers discovered in the early 90s that Lenz in his craziness had actually became the first form of the humanoid known as Kenny G ...and his son [;)] Kenny G with his son, Max G

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread merudanda
talking about craziness --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher no_reply@... wrote: Researchers discovered in the early 90s that Lenz in his craziness had actually became the first form of the humanoid known as Kenny G ...and his son [;)] Kenny G with his son, Max G

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: So you keep talking about Maharishi in great analysis and detail to keep from thinking about how Lenz fucked up your head and heart? That's what it looks like. Freddy was exceptionally gifted and insecure. Probably

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: Kenny G with his son, Max G http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9KLAltIol4feature=related His music is noticeably quite popular in China. WOW PRANA (lol) hearing his Going Home often played at closing time at public places

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the dome tonight

2011-10-22 Thread Buck
Well, the movement has nothing to do with the Knowledge, as someone was saying in line at Cafe Paradiso waiting for coffee. I just saw the David Wants to Fly video and it certainly is full of paradox. It started off good and then got negative. We know all that stuff in much greater detail

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: I would not be so

[FairfieldLife] Merudanda

2011-10-22 Thread Mark Landau
Meru, do you remember the names of anyone else in the room that night? I certainly don't. Thanks, m (Also, please see below) ((Ah, well, I couldn't help one more try in closer temporal proximity. Last one, I promise. Adios for now, amigos. I'll unsubscribe again in a few days. m))

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip What I've found interesting since starting this thread is that no one -- not even the near-professional apol- ogists on this forum -- have attempted *to* create a rational explanation for how bouncing on their butts

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mystery of Consciousness

2011-10-22 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Cardmaister, thanks for a start on this, and if you get to more later on, it will be informative to see what comes out here. I noticed you used the term 'Big Bang' in a reference to the word you translated as before, but 'before' just means precedent to whatever the 'before' is referencing, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Wait, wait...I want to lash out angrily too, all TB bat-shit crazy, Supposedly Enlightened and obsessed with Barry (Yo, Turq, did I get all of my labels right?): Again, Barry ignores all of the glaring inconsistencies with Freddy and only mentions much smaller ones wrt Maharishi. My take is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Oh, and Kenny G hasn't yet put a dog collar around his neck and killed himself.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: Kenny G with his son, Max G

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the dome tonight

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Good take. Yes, most people are far more complex in their opinions than to be taken in by some TM ex movie. The TBs that Turq and Vaj rail against are a lot closer to them than either thinks; hard core fundamentalists both. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Merudanda

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Have you considered DNA testing Mark? You would need another small piece of Maharishi's previous body, like hair from a hairbrush, for comparison. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: Meru, do you remember the names of anyone else in the room that night? I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Merudanda

2011-10-22 Thread Mark Landau
Thanks, Jim. It won't come to that. The auction house is satisfied with what they have. I'd just like to secure a stronger letter for any potential buyer if possible. Meru is the only person I've been able to find with direct experience of part of the event. On Oct 22, 2011, at 8:48 AM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Merudanda

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Hi Mark, OK - I hope you sell them for a bundle! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: Thanks, Jim. It won't come to that. The auction house is satisfied with what they have. I'd just like to secure a stronger letter for any potential buyer if possible. Meru is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Wait, wait...I want to lash out angrily too But we've only been attempting to lash out, according to Barry. Do you mean you're *really* going to lash out at him rather than just *attempting* to do so like the rest of us?

[FairfieldLife] Degrees Of Charlatanry :-)

2011-10-22 Thread turquoiseb
One of the things that never ceases to amuse me is how some long-term TMers react to having had their buttons pushed. Their first impulse is to call the button- pushers liars. If that doesn't work -- and it hasn't, at least with fairly objective bystanders -- their next impulse is to try to do the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Merudanda

2011-10-22 Thread Mark Landau
Thanks, mon, nothing would surprise me... On Oct 22, 2011, at 9:09 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: Hi Mark, OK - I hope you sell them for a bundle! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: Thanks, Jim. It won't come to that. The auction house is satisfied with what they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: snip And I am sure, at least in the case of myself, Curtis would

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Right, right, I meant attempting to lash out - it sounds more cartoonish and impotent, in-line with Barry's fantasies... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Wait, wait...I want to lash out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Degrees Of Charlatanry :-)

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Ahem. Barry, you are the one who spent years and years in cults, and now you accuse me and others of being wrapped up in that lifestyle? A confused little man you are. Hope you get out of your cult mentality sometime soon - sad to see you so trapped, though you do seem to enjoy it. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread pranamoocher
Yes, indeed. 'Twas the frizzy long hair and the Members Only looking jacket that triggered the FL-Kenny G comparison. No doubt, KG is a Lawrence Welk version of jazz, almost pure shmaltz. Blec! --- In fairfieldli...@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread Bhairitu
When he was in high school Kenny Gorelick used to sneak into the Doubletree Inn to hear the jazz trio I played in. Gotta say that he may have improved Musak a bit. Of course smooth jazz grew out of the commercialization of jazz in the 1970s with the CTI label. On 10/22/2011 07:42 AM,

[FairfieldLife] Everything You Know Is Wrong

2011-10-22 Thread turquoiseb
Back in the late 60s, before I met Maharishi but after I had segued from the world of psychedelics to the world of substance-free realization, I got to see a live per- formance by the Firesign Theatre. If their name strikes no resonance with you, click Next now, because this rap may have no

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher no_reply@... wrote: Yes, indeed. 'Twas the frizzy long hair and the Members Only looking jacket that triggered the FL-Kenny G comparison. No doubt, KG is a Lawrence Welk version of jazz, almost pure shmaltz. Blec! Good to hear. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread Bhairitu
On 10/22/2011 08:44 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltabluescurtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriendjstein@ wrote: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebrano_reply@ wrote: snip And I am sure, at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Bhairitu, What I write here is pre-shitty first draft material. I am just thinking it through riffing off of a post. It is more process writing than what I consider actual writing. More of a written conversation. I usually but not always take one quick scan to catch the most obvious

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Hey Bhairitu, What I write here is pre-shitty first draft material. I am just thinking it through riffing off of a post. It is more process writing than what I consider actual writing. More of a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread Bhairitu
In the 60's and 70's if you played a 13th chord some idiot in the audience would wander up and say you play too many dischords. The joke response among players was which chord do you mean: dis chord or dat chord. :-D These days that won't happen because the public's ears have been cultured

[FairfieldLife] Re: OPERA neutrino anomaly?

2011-10-22 Thread John
The faster than light finding by scientist at CERN could be due to a lensing effect of the soil and rock that the particle had to traverse from CERN to the lab in Italy. IOW, relative to particle's clock time, the particle is moving at the speed of light. But relative to the lab clock, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Everything You Know Is Wrong

2011-10-22 Thread John
Some of them could be right too. As such, your premise is wrong. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Back in the late 60s, before I met Maharishi but after I had segued from the world of psychedelics to the world of substance-free realization, I got to see

[FairfieldLife] Contrary to What Our Resident Cult Victim Says, Butt Bouncing Works!

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
A good article on the rapid and statistically valid reduction of violence in our world: http://news.yahoo.com/bombings-beheadings-stats-show-peaceful-world-134625326.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TM0 Became Officially A Movement To Change History of Mankind

2011-10-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: So you keep talking about Maharishi in great analysis and detail to keep from thinking about how Lenz fucked up your head and heart? That's

[FairfieldLife] Zazen, suicidal Freddy's band [was Re: The Day That TMers Became ]

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Have you ever HEARD Zazen, suicidal Freddy's band? And you think this is BETTER music than Kenny G? Lenz created 13 albums of this dreck before he killed himself, none of it even remotely commercially successful. You really have to stop going after those hugely successful personalities like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Contrary to What Our Resident Cult Victim Says, Butt Bouncing Works!

2011-10-22 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:07 PM, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote: A good article on the rapid and statistically valid reduction of violence in our world: http://news.yahoo.com/bombings-beheadings-stats-show-peaceful-world-134625326.html So Amma, SSRS, the groups who chant 10

[FairfieldLife] Zazen, suicidal Freddy's band [was Re: The Day That TMers Became ]

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
A sample from Freddy's posthumous website: Album: Techno Zen Master (you gotta see the picture for this one - priceless!) Track List: Death is Sexual | What is Dancing? | Dancing (Naughty Remix) | This is Techno Zen Master | Couldn't Get A Job | Climbing Up the Mountain | Why is All of This? |

[FairfieldLife] Re: Contrary to What Our Resident Cult Victim Says, Butt Bouncing Works!

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Just yanking our resident cult victim's chain. Personally I couldn't care less about the cause, I just enjoy the result. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:07 PM, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: A good article on the rapid and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TM0 Became Officially A Movement To Change History of Mankind

2011-10-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: So you keep talking about Maharishi in great analysis and detail to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Everything You Know Is Wrong

2011-10-22 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Some of them could be right too. As such, your premise is wrong. But what if it isn't? That is the possibility that, in my opinion, you are willing to admit *as* a possibility. THAT is the distinction I am trying to point out

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread stevelf
For me it was sometime around '76. I was about to take my first siddhis course in Switzerland. Often I would get to Europe a month early to hike in the Swiss alps. So I was there early this time, too, and happened upon a course going on somewhere on Lake Lucerne. I remember a hotel and

[FairfieldLife] How to End the Deficit

2011-10-22 Thread John
This idea makes sense. Please, read below: Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling: I could end the deficit in 5 minutes, he told CNBC. You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Everything You Know Is Wrong

2011-10-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip To this day, I am completely *comfortable* with the concept that everything I know is wrong. This idea causes me not the least bit of discomfort. In fact, I find some comfort in the notion. Go figure. Compare and

[FairfieldLife] Re: OPERA neutrino anomaly?

2011-10-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: Do you believe ONA is real? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPERA_neutrino_anomaly http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php Those weird faster-than-light neutrinos that CERN thought they saw last month

[FairfieldLife] Re: Degrees Of Charlatanry :-)

2011-10-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: One of the things that never ceases to amuse me is how some long-term TMers react to having had their buttons pushed. Their first impulse is to call the button- pushers liars. Only if the button-pushers have been dishonest.

[FairfieldLife] Final, bittersweet hurray? ; D

2011-10-22 Thread cardemaister
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/22/nokia-n9-review/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Dear Bhairitu, Then I asked Robin in another post if he fancied himself an 'archarya' to which he never responded which tells me a lot in and of itself. It should tell you nothing, Bhairtu: I did not even know what the term

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread authfriend
(Yahoo appears to have eaten my first send of this post.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: snip I believe that it is a rare bird who would enjoy wading through this personal conversation with Robin. I guess I'm one of those birds, because I've

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Careful Judy, Barry is getting very, very jealous over this ongoing development, especially after Barry went after Robin with a vengeance, and now Barry's Blue Crush, Curtis, is having quite an enjoyable discussion with Robin. Someone even said Barry has been seen around Amsterdam with a *dog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Careful Judy, Barry is getting very, very jealous over this ongoing development, especially after Barry went after Robin with a vengeance, and now Barry's Blue Crush, Curtis, is having quite an enjoyable discussion with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread Bhairitu
Thanks, but I wasn't asking your opinion on Ayurveda, just whether you fancied yourself an acharya and you answered that. ;-) Ayurveda is something that some of us have studied and I didn't study it under the auspices of TM. It is just biochemistry and nothing mystical about it. But I've

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread Buck
Great reminiscence. This is something I like about FFL. Every once in a while some one 'who was there' will pop up and give an account of what they saw. Thanks for taking the time to share this. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stevelf ysoy10li@... wrote: For me it

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-10-22 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Oct 22 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Oct 29 00:00:00 2011 96 messages as of (UTC) Sun Oct 23 00:15:04 2011 35 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 13 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com 7 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 7

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TM0 Became Officially A Movement To Change History of Mankind

2011-10-22 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: So you keep talking about Maharishi in great analysis and detail to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
Ha-Ha! I certainly grant Curtis sainthood on that basis, though I can see Curtis coming up with a lot of lame excuses to end the meeting if they ever meet in person, I know Barry...yeah, obsessed TBs and Maharishi...listen, I really have to go tune my guitar --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
Jesus Judy. Please accept my apology for all the snarky bullshit in my previous post. That was one of the nicest posts I have ever read and I take it to heart. Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: (Yahoo appears to have eaten my first send of this

[FairfieldLife] Spiritual Fairfield

2011-10-22 Thread Buck
About that Fairfield Directory of Active Spiritual Practice groups there is always an ambiance of this going on in the larger meditating community. Jefferson County has about 15,000 people in it. Fairfield has about 10,000. Discerning the general elections and off-year election returns,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Everything You Know Is Wrong

2011-10-22 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip To this day, I am completely *comfortable* with the concept that everything I know is wrong. This idea causes me not the least bit of discomfort. In

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:26 PM, stevelf wrote: For me it was sometime around '76. I was about to take my first siddhis course in Switzerland. Often I would get to Europe a month early to hike in the Swiss alps. So I was there early this time, too, and happened upon a course going on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Spiritual Fairfield

2011-10-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Oct 22, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Buck wrote: Thanks for asking But nobody did. Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.comwrote: On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:26 PM, stevelf wrote: For me it was sometime around '76. I was about to take my first siddhis course in Switzerland. Often I would get to Europe a month early to hike in the Swiss alps. So I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread stevelf
BTW-- nice projection on the naked thing The CP's were doing the original siddhis where anything and all reactions were deemed appropriate in terms of sounding like a zoo-gone-wild... and/or a possessed insane shouting / it was uncharted territory for the notoriously- straight TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-22 Thread whynotnow7
The same thing was done when I did the sidhis in that hotel the movement bought on 11th street in downtown DC. No big deal - don't remember if all the vocalizing was still going on. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:26 PM, stevelf