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Lawson, Curtis and
Take life as it comes. Any other questions?
There are many things that still surprise me about the things that long-term TM
TBs believe and that I no longer believe, but I admit to having been somewhat
taken aback yesterday at Lawson's seemingly unquestioning acceptance of what he
was told about the nature of enlightenment. That is, that
Curtis is an amateur philosopher, we knew that already.
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On 5/17/2014 8:29 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Yes, I *do* agree with him in believing that Maharishi was WAY off in coming
up with
Having picnicked peacefully with friends on a grassy lawn beside a canal
yesterday and watched the folks participating in the Leiden Marathon run by, I
found myself wondering what Maharishi Mahesh Yogi -- at least the one from
Squaw Valley 1967 and for years afterwards, before any traces of a
40 years after the Turq left the Movement he STILL obsess with Maharishi. And
he keep trying to find new faults, this time how Maharishi protected the
meditators from self-proclaimed enlightened coming to TM-centres lecturing
about all kinds of nonsense and confusing the people.
It seems
I have (so far) a low workload this week, so I'm going to take advantage of it
in this cafebefore moving on to the next science article, and write a little
rap extolling some of the benefits I see in the practice of meditation.
Yeah, I know that such a stance might confound some who like to
He must have had some advanced esoteric techniques to keep his breath on a even
keel when he was screwing all those gals in the early days.
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As a followup, I have to comment that just after writing this, one of my
favorite songs came on the sound system, almost as if it were some kind of
support of nature or Castanedan omen.
The song is from the latest in The Hobbit cycle of movies, and as some
critics have suggested, may be
turq, if you were actually around long term TMers you would know how they
really are about taking responsibility. Most simply live their lives as best as
they can, contributing to the happiness of the world as best as they can. I
find much of what you say about TMers to be very dated, not
Those heads of state are snubbing the DL because they don't want to piss off
China. I researched the lineage of the DL and found out he does not have one,
as so many Lamas were substituted over the years, for political purposes, there
is no clear transmission of *anything* throughout the
turq, you said you would recommend TM with conditions. Why would you, if those
conditions were met, recommend it?
On Monday, May 19, 2014 5:58 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
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I have (so far) a low workload this week, so I'm going
jeez, turq, if you think I'm a True Believer, then you must have a very
different definition of it than I do. As for me, I don't worry or fantasize
about getting enlightened or whatever. I find that life is pretty rich as it is.
On Monday, May 19, 2014 1:32 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
Ha-ha - Barry, all these words - You describe yourself, wrt meditation, like
someone who buys a car, not to actually go anywhere, but simply to drive around
aimlessly in it - and then brags about the awesome experience! LOL
Now you know why it is so easy to see you have no silence, no
Again, I reiterate my contention that those who seem to have the most fixed
ideas of What enlightenment is on this forum are those who have never in
their lives experienced it, only been told about it and fantasized about it.
Again, this BS of yours - you have experienced enlightenment for
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turq, you said you would recommend TM with conditions. Why
On 5/17/2014 9:27 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
At the ATR course at which I heard it, one male TM teacher --
obviously in a fit of renewed enthusiasm at having been presented a
new vision of possibilities -- pragmatically but ignorantly asked,
So Maharishi, if
Who cares what a couple of ex-TM teachers think? You guys failed, so your
opinions are worth basically, nothing. If you were enlightened, then possibly,
but just because you worked for Maharishi 40 years ago, we're supposed to take
you seriously? Not a chance, and quit trying to pull rank...
Barry Wright, there is something seriously wrong with your wiring, if you
equate witnessing with a lack of responsibility. Obviously your witnessing
experience was very, very limited. Otherwise you would see clearly, that the
permanent state of witnessing, DOES NOT OCCUR until one has reached a
On 5/19/2014 3:49 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
Curtis is an amateur philosopher, we knew that already.
We have not seen any evidence that MUM produces good philosophers, by
Curtis's own account. Do they even teach Eastern systems of philosophy
such as the Six Systems? Go figure.
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On 5/19/2014 4:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Like so many of his teachings that fell by the wayside, this theory
was carefully excised from his books and tapes to make the older ones
more consistent with his latest, greatest takes on the human
condition. They
turq wrote: If TM cost less, and were not taught by a cult whose primary goal
is to
recruit new members of the cult to fill its coffers, I'd be able to
suggest that people learn it.
So I don't agree that my question was nonsensical. In fact, I think turq's
comment above indicates that he
On 5/19/2014 5:47 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
40 years after the Turq left the Movement he STILL obsess with
Maharishi. And he keep trying to find new faults, this time how
Maharishi protected the meditators from self-proclaimed enlightened
coming to TM-centres lecturing about all kinds of
On 5/19/2014 5:58 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
I have (so far) a low workload this week,
Barry is really working late this evening - it must be midnight over
there by now. Go figure.
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He must have had some advanced esoteric techniques to keep his breath
on a even keel when he was screwing all those gals in the early days.
You got to work /really early/ today! Go figure.
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5/19-Maharishi: How Unity Consciousness becomes Brahman Consciousness becomes
a part of Brahman
Now, in the beginning days of Unity the object of the main focus of attention
is appreciated in terms of the Self. This object is seen -- the eyes fall on
Of course your question wasn't nonsensical, Share. It was perfectly
reasonable, a good question, in fact. Barry is apparently so eager to diss
TMers that he misread it.
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turq wrote: If TM cost less, and were not taught by a cult
Richard wrote: 'If MMY was way off, then you'd have to disagree with Immanuel
Kant, Johann Gottlieb Fichte, Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph Schelling, Georg Wilhelm
Friedrich Hegel and Arthur Schopenhauer and the whole of German idealism. This
would be a monumental task for anyone, even someone with
Ah, that was Jacob that wrestled with an angel and then was renamed *Israel*.
At the time of Jacobs birth , he also wrestled with his brother, grabbing his
heal, trying to be the first out of the womb so that he would inherit the birth
right of the *first born*. He lost that battle but
I have to say Barry, when I hear you talk about your experiences in California
as as Regional or State Coordinator, it doesn't jibe with my experience in the
Midwest, as it pertains to keeping people off course etc.
You paint a very severe and petty picture which I do not recognize.
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Thread-jacking or Subject-jacking
yep, it is an incredibly rude obliviousness to others that people should
hijack threads and continue to drive on without adjusting the subject line.
Another symptom of bad upbringing and the decay of ethical virtue in the world.
-Buck
noozguru writes:
So you are disagreeing with Barry - does that also mean you are skeptical of
the experiences Curtis relates on these same issues?
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Having picnicked peacefully with friends on a grassy lawn beside a canal
yesterday and watched the folks participating in the Leiden Marathon run by, I
found myself wondering what Maharishi Mahesh Yogi -- at least the one from
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I know nothing about Rymer, but what you describe of his interactions with
Maharishi was also true of Robin. There was no conflict between Robin and
Maharishi until he showed up with his group (of mostly TM teachers) in
Fairfield--seven years or so after he had first claimed enlightenment--and
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Barry Wright, there is something seriously wrong with your wiring, if you
equate witnessing with a lack of responsibility. Obviously your witnessing
experience was very, very limited. Otherwise you would see clearly,
Interestingly, neither of you addressed my point about Xeno's paragraph, much
less refuted it.
Xeno is obviously not a TM-TB. When he describes his own experience, he's
clearly not rehashing Maharishi's teaching. But the paragraph I quoted from
his post (below) is an instance of Knowledge is
Wrong by what criteria?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
There are many things that still surprise me about the things that long-term
TM TBs believe and that I no longer believe, but I admit to having been
somewhat taken aback yesterday at Lawson's seemingly
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Thread-jacking or Subject-jacking
yep, it is an incredibly rude obliviousness to others that people should
hijack threads and continue to drive on without adjusting the subject line.
Another symptom of bad upbringing and the
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turq wrote: If TM cost less, and were not taught by a cult whose primary goal
is to recruit new members of the cult to fill its coffers, I'd be able to
suggest that people learn it.
So I don't agree that my question was
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
I know nothing about Rymer, but what you describe of his interactions with
Maharishi was also true of Robin. There was no conflict between Robin and
Maharishi until he showed up with his group (of mostly TM teachers) in
Ann,
There is a certain etiquette regarding 'enlightenment'. I think it is OK to
attempt to describe one's own experiences, but it is a mine field to try to
characterise someone else's because there is the always present probability of
misunderstanding the language they are using to describe
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Ann,
There is a certain etiquette regarding 'enlightenment'. I think it is OK to
attempt to describe one's own experiences, but it is a mine field to try to
characterise someone
Dick, thanks so much for posting this. I now receive these directly but it's
fun to see it on FFL too!
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5/19-Maharishi: How Unity
The utter failure of his hero the D.Lama to be received by ANY European
government the last couple of weeks must really have gotten to poor Turq, so
far two frantic anti-Maharishi posts today must be a new record low even for
him.
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Nevertheless there finally is a growing understanding that Maharishi was right:
the D. Lama is only a politician, and a failed one too who has been able to do
nada for Tibet. Most people, at least over here seem to be fed up with that
Lama, threats of economical sanctions from China or not.
I notice that sometimes when I'm feeling really happy, that can slip over into
smugness. But if I think of someone or something for which I feel grateful, the
smugness dissolves. So far it's been impossible to feel grateful and smug at
the same time. I'm grateful for that (-:
On Monday, May
Just a little news that proves the idea of 8,000 yogic flyers doing anything
positive in Latin America is a joke.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/money/2014/05/09/central-american-fungus-cripples-coffee-crop-may-affect-us-prices/
Central American Fungus Cripples Coffee Crop, May A...
A
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Ann,
There is a certain etiquette regarding 'enlightenment'. I think it is OK to
attempt to describe one's own experiences, but it is a mine field to try to
characterise someone else's because there is the always present
Thinking definitely effects but unfortunately just not enough to correct
a long term imbalance. Tonifying = to tone up the body. For instance I
knew a TM teacher who was a former university varsity football player
who drug himself around trying live on a vegetarian diet. He could only
work 4
Ha! Barry, or, Mr. Mellow as we call him, has tried his usual strategies
against things I assert, that he does not want to hear. In order:
1. Try to make it all about me - negatively.
2. Do a 180 on his previous opinions, now that he has to defend them.
and finally,
3. Go away for
That's what my mother always told me. But also said, sometimes you
gotta take the bull by the horns. :-D
On 05/19/2014 12:04 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Take life as it comes. Any other questions?
Thanks for speaking up, Steve. I am so tired, as if it isn't obvious, of Barry,
who quit the TMO 40 years ago, after having failed both his students, and
himself. He then casts these false memories about, as if they were gold, and
should be taken Very Seriously.
Give me a break - Very
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Just a little news that proves the idea of 8,000 yogic flyers doing anything
positive in Latin America is a joke.
You are, apparently, a very literal-minded man MJ.
BTW, this documentary is excellent. I highly recommend it to those
interested in the era and what an unusual character Baker is. He never
has thought of himself as a rock drummer but a jazz drummer. In fact I
recall that one of my drum teachers pointed out that Baker was not
playing the
I, for one, would like to see us Americans drink less coffee. It IS
psychoactive, and we may just have less of a frenzy, in general, if we slowed
down the caffeine intake a bit.
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In the case of Jim, he is simply playing, toying with Barry. He knows it gets
to him. I don't think Jim takes himself that seriously and if you read his
recent posts he is simply taking it over the top to push the envelope to see
what comes out of others - an alleged favourite tactic of
I remember hearing in nutrition class, the average protein requirement is 60
grams a day - I need more like a hundred, and can't do strict veggy - need meat
at least once a week. When I worked for the movement I craved sugar constantly
because I wasn't getting enough protein - got plenty of
I heard a good story about Ginge, don't know if it's true but apparently he
used to work in a bank and one day told the manager that he was quitting to
become a famous drummer. The manager said but you don't play drums, and Ginge
replied, not yet!
He came across as a total asshole in a
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
In the case of Jim, he is simply playing, toying with Barry. He knows it gets
to him. I don't think Jim takes himself that seriously and if you read his
recent posts he is simply taking it over the top to push the
Thanks for this correction Steve. The Turq has claimed inside info on
something that happened 40 years ago, and why ? Because the others have either
moved on or are still around but shun this blog. The Turq is simply stuck in
stuff he didn't understand AND that happened 2 generations ago. I
Yes, he is quite acerbic. A true pitta! In fact you'll notice in the
trailer at the end he is hitting the guy doing the documentary with his
cane.
I saw him play with the Cream and Stevie Winwood but never met the guy.
If I did I'm sure we would have sat around talking drums.
BTW, I see
In 1972 when an ND told me I couldn't be a vegetarian because I was
already showing signs of anemia after just two weeks of trying a veggie
diet, he also told me that most people could get by one eating animal
protein two or three times a week. On some of the political boards the
vegan
Mike,
That was a good catch you made. Nonetheless, my point is that there is a lot
of wisdom in the OT texts if one looks at it from both the literal and symbolic
sense. IMO, however, the Jews are still taking the coming of the messiah, as
prophesied by Isaiah and the other prophets, in
You live next door to Johnny Rotten? Poor you!
I've got a live Cream DVD and they are superb but he isn't me favourite
drummer, too skittery for me, I prefer the solidity of John Bonham. Cream were
better than the sum of their parts I think, I never liked Clapton much
afterwards either.
Barry hit the nail on the head. This post is pure gold.
The idea of enlightenment that MMY states in his commentary in the Gita and
elsewhere is the underlying driving force behind the race to enlightenment for
the majority of meditators, that
and the supposed end of suffering, acquisition
The reason you get attacked, Barry, is that you're so fucking nasty in sharing
your great wisdom with us. You make all kinds of gratuitously demeaning
assumptions about the TMers here, many if not most of which are simply not
true; and you consistently exalt yourself as superior. Plus which,
wink, wink, nudge, nudge...Ooooh, speaking volumes and all that - what a
weak-minded and lazy response, Sal. Shows us where your allegiance lies, on
this issue; another wanker, being drawn in by the other two.
Have you also had very limited witnessing experience, no established silence
One more time:
What if what has been described as enlightenment in the past
has *absolutely nothing* to do with personality or behavior?
What if, just as those who described it in the past have said,
it is purely about consciousness, having the ability to directly
perceive eternality 24/7,
Funny thing this, I do TM twice a day and have never felt demeaned by a Barry
rap on the TMO, in fact I agree with a lot of it as I worked there too and saw
much unwitting (perhaps) cultish behaviour and plain gullibility and stupidity
from my fellow devotees.
Much of B's three posts on
On 5/19/2014 6:29 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I am joined in this company by a few other often-demonized voices on
this forum, from Curtis to Sam Harris who (gasp) may not have any use
for the notion of God or devotion to a path supposedly leading to some
But Judy, don't you see the pious little halo above his head? I love it when he
pulls his Saint Barry trip - the last resort.
Let's see, he's tried shooting the messenger, flip-flopping like a fish on a
boat bottom, doubling down, reversing course, reloading, and shooting the
messenger,
Barry is hardly the one to be pointing fingers at others, because of their
life-style or behavior.
Sure the TMO is screwed up in some ways. We all know that. However, Barry just
uses that as an excuse to trot out the same old crap. The beef I have with him,
is, he is badly confused with
Nope, not Johnny Rotten. A couple years back I started seeing this guy
at the nearby Nob Hill Supermarket. Then a few months back a friend who
built some of the homes in my neighborhood told me he built a big one
behind me for a doctor and the doctor sold it to a rock star. A
couple weeks
Right, Jews, orthodox Jews, are still waiting for Messiah and Christians, the
second coming. Both Christian and Jews will be looking for what you described
that Jews were looking for in the first place, Lion of Judah, the judge,
leveler of scores, restoring righteousness etc etc . However,
vegetarian - schmegetarian - seems like a convenient excuse for hand-wringing,
and navel-gazing, by some. Which reminds me, my newly favorite burger joint, is
open for lunch...
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In 1972 when an ND told me I couldn't be a vegetarian
On 5/19/2014 6:29 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
If TM cost less, and were not taught by a cult whose primary goal is
to recruit new members of the cult to fill its coffers, I'd be able to
suggest that people learn it.
180. Go figure.
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Demeaning the TMO is one thing. Demeaning the TMers here is quite another.
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Funny thing this, I do TM twice a day and have never felt demeaned by a Barry
rap on the TMO, in fact I agree with a lot of it as I worked there
On 5/19/2014 6:29 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Witnessing, schmitnessing. Minor brain fart, not worth focusing on much...
It might be a good time to define what we mean by witnessing.
Witness:
To see, hear, or experience something firsthand, that serves as
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Nope, not Johnny Rotten. A couple years back I started seeing this guy at the
nearby Nob Hill Supermarket. Then a few months back a friend who built some of
the homes in my neighborhood told me he built a big one behind me for a
Prattle.
On 5/19/2014 4:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Having picnicked peacefully with friends on a grassy lawn beside a
canal yesterday and watched the folks participating in the Leiden
Marathon run by, I found myself wondering what Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--
On 5/19/2014 4:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Having picnicked peacefully with friends on a grassy lawn beside a
canal yesterday and watched the folks participating in the Leiden
Marathon run by...
So, you're a /witness/ to some folks running by a canal
On 5/19/2014 2:04 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Take life as it comes.
The Doors - Take It As It Comes
http://youtu.be/Vp_tjYszBmQ
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Infidel, you'll have to pry the Pegasus organic espresso roast from my cold,
dead hands.
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I, for one, would like to see us Americans drink less coffee. It IS
psychoactive, and we may just have less of a frenzy, in
Real drummers use all kinds of grips. It is a little hard to play thumbs
up (often called French grip) matched on a set as Rich mentions but
then you can hold the left the same as the right with the palms down
with works well on a set. The left hand grip came about trying to play
a marching
Mike,
Let me back track a little bit to the OT writings. Among the Hebrews, there
is no doubt that they accepted the stories in the Torah in the historical and
literal sense. But, IMO, Moses had already introduced the concept of
consciousness as the basis of knowledge in Genesis and
Bhairitu,
There's nothing wrong with what your mother said. She is or was a wise woman,
whatever the case may be.
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That's what my mother always told me. But also said, sometimes you gotta
take the bull by the horns. :-D
On
Richard,
The Doors obviously had a different interpretation of this yoga. Carry on.
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On 5/19/2014 2:04 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Take life as it comes.
The Doors - Take It As It Comes
On 5/18/2014 3:58 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
I believe the Bible is a text about the development and understanding
of Consciousness within the Hebrew culture.
It might be easier to understand this Biblical quote in the light of
shared traditions common along
That stuff is like crack - I used to get a double-espresso sometimes at an
Italian cafe in the Bay Area, and it would give me endless amounts of
energy...until it didn't. - sometimes, rarely, I'll still get one. Mostly I
drink Oregon brand Chai and the stuff is good - They chintzed out on the
On 5/18/2014 12:23 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
The manna discussed in Exodus was supposedly the excretions on the
leaves of a certain plant...
Merkur traces a long line of historical figures who knew of Manna's
secret but dared only make cryptic references to it for fear of
I wasn't commenting on what Barry had previously said on other forums - I was
and am addressing what he said here, today. And if you want to throw down on
someone for changing their story, whey not start with Mahesh Prasad Varmint.
O, all yew need is TM. Just meditate twice a day. Never
Comments below...
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I wasn't commenting on what Barry had previously said on other forums
You didn't know that he had said this.
- I was and am addressing what he said here, today. And if you want to throw
down on someone
Richard,
IMO, the jury is still out on the validity of McKenna's work on psychedelic
plants. I fear that these plants can give delusions and contribute to deluded
ideas about the real world as did the Aztec priests who concluded that their
gods must be appeased daily by sacrificing human
LOL - Yes! I had forgotten all about these: plastic vedic observatory models
- not to make light of your issue, but wtf was that Vedic Observatory Garden?!
Did anyone actually visit it, and did it work? Just seemed like a really odd
and esoteric bit of the Movement.
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Hi 'M, I responded earlier, but perhaps hit cancel instead of send, so, like I
said - Pick-axe - next to a sledge hammer, my favorite demo tool - have taken
out some serious root systems with one. And, yes, I am living in a trailer
park, in my RV, in Chico, which I enjoy - it is like living in
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