Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Much of B's three posts on the subject today rang true, I know people still who don't do exercise because they think it will "stress" them in some way. I knew people who believe the secret to lon

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 7:31 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > R:"This duality, which consists of subject and object, is a mere > vibration of consciousness. Pure consciousness is ultimately > objectless; hence, it is declared to be eternally without relations." > - Mandukya Karika I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 7:31 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > R: But, in the ancient Indian view, everything that exists - matter > and material - arise from the field of consciousness. The brain is a > product of consciousness, not vice-versa. > > C: This is where Maharishi's teachi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 7:31 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: R: If consciousness was just an epiphenomenon of the brain and the nervous system it would not be a fundamental of nature - it would just be an effect, not a cause. C: Yes and we have a lot of evidence for our awareness b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Witnessing

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 7:31 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: If a person is not conscious, there would for him be no knowledge of any kind, philosophical, religious, or scientific. This is not a matter of debate because everyone already knows it to be a fact of common experience. C:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Roller Girl

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 7:35 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This is what he dreamed was happening as she wiped the sweat from under her arms and pulled up her bra strap. > It might be a good idea for old guys like Barry to just keep their pie holes shut about female breasts - Barry get

[FairfieldLife] Debtor's Prison is Back

2014-05-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Would it not be better for all of society to incorporate quiet time meditation in to the educational design of our schooling system? -Buck http://www.npr.org/2014/05/19/312158516/increasing-court-fees-punish-the-poor http://www.npr.org/2014/05/19/312158516/increasing-court-fees-punish-the-poo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 8:06 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Let's face it, that is what constitutes about 80% of your participation here. > Almost every post of Barry's, even some movie or TV reviews, contains a subtle, sometimes not so subtle, message to Judy, the only informant that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 10:53 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It really cheapens the reality of what many of us here have been through, and not without our doubts. The last thing I need to hear, is some quitter, transferring his sense of failure onto the org that kicked him out,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yea, I guess we all had different experiences. I always enjoyed teaching. But also glad that I went on to other pursuits as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I appreciate your sharing. I think it is part of Movement history. I have heard similar stories to yours and on

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 8:21 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think you missed the point, Michael. > The correct word is "mollusk." LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have no idea how your brain interprets things but I hardly view Barry as a scumbag - I have a gr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I appreciate your sharing. I think it is part of Movement history. I have heard similar stories to yours and ones similar to Barry's. One woman I met in Indiana told me of her application process to TTC - she said she answered all the questions honestly and openly including her drug history and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pagan Fairfield Meditators Celebrate, End of Winter!

2014-05-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Video credit to Werner Elmker https://www.youtube.com/user/wernerelmker/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/wernerelmker/videos Werner Elmker https://www.youtube.com/user/wernerelmker/videos Werner Elmker performing classical and original piano music. View on www.youtube.com https:/

[FairfieldLife] Pagan Fairfield Meditators Celebrate, End of Winter!

2014-05-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mayfaire 2014: Singing Cedars 10th Annual May Festival https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0Ncw_3mIQ&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0Ncw_3mIQ&feature=youtu.be Mayfaire 2014: Singing Cedars 10th Annual May Fe... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0Ncw_3mIQ&feature=youtu.

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think you missed the point, Michael. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have no idea how your brain interprets things but I hardly view Barry as a scumbag - I have a great deal more respect for him than I do Marshy tho, I will say that. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh yeah, there was a western Mo. 'Capital', and an Eastern Mo. one. I don't know if we ever visited each other's facilities - went up to Fairfield a few times. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, Jim, often Barry's experiences with the TMO don't jibe with my experience. BTW, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Much of B's three posts on the subject today rang true, I know people still who don't do exercise because they think it will "stress" them in some way. I knew people who believe the secret to long life is not breathing too much. And so what.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I didn't get that impression at all. I thought he came off quite well. I guess the interviewer could handle someone not giving him (the interviewer) the respect he felt he "deserved", and so has to try to humiliate him with this title. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 hundred particpants in Invvincible Ukraine

2014-05-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
'Forward, the Light Brigade of Meditators!' Was there a meditator dismay'd ? Knowing of themselves their own experience transcendent and the science so, theirs not to make reply, theirs not to reason why, theirs but to meditate. Into the valley of Death Crimea came the hundred meditators. Ca

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 hundred particpants in Invvincible Ukraine

2014-05-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Cannon to right of them, Tanks to left of them, Cannon in front of them. Boldly they came in peace and well, Into the jaws of Death, Into the mouth of Hell came the hundred meditating. When can their glory fade? Om the wild charge they make in meditation together for Peace! In meditation tog

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, Jim, often Barry's experiences with the TMO don't jibe with my experience. BTW, I had some involvement with the "Capital" in Ste. Genevieve, Mo. Taught some courses down there. Had peripheral involvement with the buying and building of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee Rust

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I contend that trying to "shoot the messenger" rather than dealing with the message itself is a pretty puny and lazy-ass way of presenting oneself as "spiritual." If that's the only intellectual tool these TMers have in their arsenal after all th

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 hundred particpants in Invvincible Ukraine

2014-05-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
When can their glory fade? Om the wild charge they make in meditation together for Peace! In meditation together for peace! All the world wonders. Honour the charge they make! Honour this Light Brigade, the Noble One Hundred Meditators! In Paraphrase, -Buck in the Dome In my aged experience

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thank you for asking Michael. I was a full time, dedicated student and teacher from the years of 1974-1981. I initiated numerous people, gave many advanced lectures, taught many residence courses, and participated in administrative center functions. Now allowing for possible selective memor

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 20-May-14 00:15:09 UTC

2014-05-19 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/17/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 05/24/14 00:00:00 418 messages as of (UTC) 05/20/14 00:12:10 54 Share Long sharelong60 52 fleetwood_macncheese 40 awoelflebater 40 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 31 authfriend 27 Tur

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 hundred particpants in Invvincible Ukraine

2014-05-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In my aged experience as an experienced and practicing old meditator I am in full sympathy with, in complete support of, and honor totally the deployment of these meditators to that region. Seems a critical tipping point in world peace right now today in so many places. Evidently it is quite an

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 hundred particpants in Invvincible Ukraine

2014-05-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Om tat sat! Our rally point in lending aid to this is the Unified Field transcendent in meditation! The doors open at the Domes here in Fairfield, Iowa for meditation at 7am and 4pm. The Domes in Fairfield are fabulous places to meditate. -Buck in the Dome Analysis: Jonathan Marcus,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now Playing

2014-05-19 Thread Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fabulous Thunderbirds - Powerful Stuff (Jimmie Vaughan) http://youtu.be/CaEHFxlmf-k On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Pundit Sir wrote: > Canned Heat - On the Road Again - Beatclub - 1968 > http://youtu.be/274AUEP9v8k > > > On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Pundit Sir wrote: > >> http://youtu.be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another "lost Maharishi teaching" that was WRONG

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga for Endurance

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 3:26 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The Doors obviously had a different interpretation of this yoga. Carry on. The Doors - Take It As It Comes (2006 Remastered) http://youtu.be/MI_RVIl4ZsA From what I've read, Morrison wrote the lyrics to this song after attending a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another "lost Maharishi teaching" that was WRONG

2014-05-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, let it not be said that you are not a disciple of this Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Verily, I say you are. He, and his organization are the filter through which you view the world. Or at least, so it seems. And you know the funny thing about research? One day a study comes out that sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 hundred particpants in Invvincible Ukraine

2014-05-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The doors open at the Domes here in Fairfield, Iowa for meditation at 7am and 4pm. The Domes in Fairfield are fabulous places to meditate. -Buck Analysis: Jonathan Marcus, BBC Diplomatic correspondent "Some people may be wondering if there is a command and control problem in the Russian

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
THAT would make an awesome aquarium! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I was wrong - they are $3,500 now, plus shipping and handling. http://vedicobservatory.svr.com//Products.html http://vedicobservatory.svr.com//Products.html http://vedicobservatory.svr.com//Products.ht

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, I am pretty sure there was an outdoor 'showroom'. But it was a long time ago.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The reason you get attacked, Barry, is that you're so fucking nasty in sharing your great wisdom with us. You make all kinds of gratuitously demeaning assumptions about the TMers here, many if not most of which are simply not true; and you cons

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I was wrong - they are $3,500 now, plus shipping and handling. http://vedicobservatory.svr.com//Products.html Get Your Own Maharishi Vedic Observatory Model ... View on vedicobservatory.svr... Preview by Yahoo From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [Fair

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I never knew about the garden - just the model which went for around $3,000 per unit. From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I have no idea how your brain interprets things but I hardly view Barry as a scumbag - I have a great deal more respect for him than I do Marshy tho, I will say that. From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monda

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee Rust

2014-05-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
When I go to Starbucks I now order their Clover brew. It's stronger than just an Americano and more like a pressed coffee. When I don't go to Starbucks I make an Americano here at home now with fresh espresso beans that I fine grind and use an inexpensive Hamilton Beach espresso machine. Bu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi 'M, I responded earlier, but perhaps hit cancel instead of send, so, like I said - Pick-axe - next to a sledge hammer, my favorite demo tool - have taken out some serious root systems with one. And, yes, I am living in a trailer park, in my RV, in Chico, which I enjoy - it is like living in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL - Yes! I had forgotten all about these: "plastic vedic observatory models" - not to make light of your issue, but wtf was that Vedic Observatory Garden?! Did anyone actually visit it, and did it "work"? Just seemed like a really odd and esoteric bit of the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@ya

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, IMO, the jury is still out on the validity of McKenna's work on psychedelic plants. I fear that these plants can give delusions and contribute to deluded ideas about the real world as did the Aztec priests who concluded that their gods must be appeased daily by sacrificing human hea

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Comments below... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I wasn't commenting on what Barry had previously said on other forums You didn't know that he had said this. - I was and am addressing what he said here, today. And if you want to throw down on someone for changing th

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I wasn't commenting on what Barry had previously said on other forums - I was and am addressing what he said here, today. And if you want to throw down on someone for changing their story, whey not start with Mahesh Prasad Varmint. "O, all yew need is TM. Just meditate twice a day. Never p

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 12:23 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > The manna discussed in Exodus was supposedly the excretions on the > leaves of a certain plant... > Merkur traces a long line of historical figures who knew of Manna's secret but dared only make cryptic references to it for fear of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee Rust

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That stuff is like crack - I used to get a double-espresso sometimes at an Italian cafe in the Bay Area, and it would give me endless amounts of energy...until it didn't. - sometimes, rarely, I'll still get one. Mostly I drink Oregon brand Chai and the stuff is good - They chintzed out on the sp

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/18/2014 3:58 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I believe the Bible is a text about the development and understanding of Consciousness within the Hebrew culture. > It might be easier to understand this Biblical quote in the light of shared traditions common along t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga for Endurance

2014-05-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, The Doors obviously had a different interpretation of this yoga. Carry on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 5/19/2014 2:04 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: > Take life as it comes. > The Doors - Take It As It Comes http://youtu.be/Vp_tjYs

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga for Endurance

2014-05-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bhairitu, There's nothing wrong with what your mother said. She is or was a wise woman, whatever the case may be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's what my mother always told me. But also said, "sometimes you gotta take the bull by the horns." :-D On 05/19/2014 12

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mike, Let me back track a little bit to the OT writings. Among the Hebrews, there is no doubt that they accepted the stories in the Torah in the historical and literal sense. But, IMO, Moses had already introduced the concept of consciousness as the basis of knowledge in Genesis and Exodus.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Real drummers use all kinds of grips. It is a little hard to play thumbs up (often called "French grip") matched on a set as Rich mentions but then you can hold the left the same as the right with the palms down with works well on a set. The left hand grip came about trying to play a marching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee Rust

2014-05-19 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Infidel, you'll have to pry the Pegasus organic espresso roast from my cold, dead hands. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I, for one, would like to see us Americans drink less coffee. It IS psychoactive, and we may just have less of a frenzy, in general, if we slowed down the c

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga for Endurance

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 2:04 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > Take life as it comes. > The Doors - Take It As It Comes http://youtu.be/Vp_tjYszBmQ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another "lost Maharishi teaching" that was WRONG

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 4:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Having picnicked peacefully with friends on a grassy lawn beside a canal yesterday and watched the folks participating in the Leiden Marathon run by... > So, you're a /witness/ to some folks running by a canal yester

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another "lost Maharishi teaching" that was WRONG

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Prattle. On 5/19/2014 4:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Having picnicked peacefully with friends on a grassy lawn beside a canal yesterday and watched the folks participating in the Leiden Marathon run by, I found myself wondering what Maharishi Mahesh Yogi --

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-19 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Nope, not Johnny Rotten. A couple years back I started seeing this guy at the nearby Nob Hill Supermarket. Then a few months back a friend who built some of the homes in my neighborhood told me he built a big one behind me for a doctor and t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heretical Heresy

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 6:29 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Witnessing, schmitnessing. Minor brain fart, not worth focusing on much... > It might be a good time to define what we mean by "witnessing." Witness: To see, hear, or experience something firsthand, that serves as evid

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Demeaning the TMO is one thing. Demeaning the TMers here is quite another. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Funny thing this, I do TM twice a day and have never felt demeaned by a Barry rap on the TMO, in fact I agree with a lot of it as I worked there too and saw much unwittin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heretical Heresy

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 6:29 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: If TM cost less, and were not taught by a cult whose primary goal is to recruit new members of the cult to fill its coffers, I'd be able to suggest that people learn it. > 180. Go figure. --- This email is free from v

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: 8 of the World's Most Beautiful Gardens, How Your Mind Impacts Your Metabolism, Is Gluten 'Sensitivity' Real?

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
vegetarian - schmegetarian - seems like a convenient excuse for hand-wringing, and navel-gazing, by some. Which reminds me, my newly favorite burger joint, is open for lunch... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In 1972 when an ND told me I couldn't be a vegetarian because I was a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-19 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Right, Jews, orthodox Jews, are still waiting for Messiah and Christians, the second coming. Both Christian and Jews will be looking for what you described that Jews were looking for in the first place, Lion of Judah, the judge, leveler of scores, restoring righteousness etc etc . However, Chris

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Nope, not Johnny Rotten. A couple years back I started seeing this guy at the nearby Nob Hill Supermarket. Then a few months back a friend who built some of the homes in my neighborhood told me he built a big one behind me for a doctor and the doctor sold it to a "rock star." A couple weeks

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry is hardly the one to be pointing fingers at others, because of their life-style or behavior. Sure the TMO is screwed up in some ways. We all know that. However, Barry just uses that as an excuse to trot out the same old crap. The beef I have with him, is, he is badly confused with rega

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
But Judy, don't you see the pious little halo above his head? I love it when he pulls his Saint Barry trip - the last resort. Let's see, he's tried shooting the messenger, flip-flopping like a fish on a boat bottom, doubling down, reversing course, reloading, and shooting the messenger, agai

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heretical Heresy

2014-05-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/19/2014 6:29 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am joined in this company by a few other often-demonized voices on this forum, from Curtis to Sam Harris who (gasp) may not have any use for the notion of God or devotion to a path supposedly leading to some supposedl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread salyavin808
Funny thing this, I do TM twice a day and have never felt demeaned by a Barry rap on the TMO, in fact I agree with a lot of it as I worked there too and saw much unwitting (perhaps) cultish behaviour and plain gullibility and stupidity from my fellow devotees. Much of B's three posts on

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
One more time: "What if what has been described as enlightenment in the past has *absolutely nothing* to do with personality or behavior? What if, just as those who described it in the past have said, it is purely about consciousness, having the ability to directly perceive eternality 24/7, an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wink, wink, nudge, nudge...Ooooh, speaking volumes and all that - what a weak-minded and lazy response, Sal. Shows us where your allegiance lies, on this issue; another wanker, being drawn in by the other two. Have you also had very limited witnessing experience, no established silence duri

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The reason you get attacked, Barry, is that you're so fucking nasty in sharing your great wisdom with us. You make all kinds of gratuitously demeaning assumptions about the TMers here, many if not most of which are simply not true; and you consistently exalt yourself as superior. Plus which, man

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry hit the nail on the head. This post is pure gold. The idea of enlightenment that MMY states in his commentary in the Gita and elsewhere is the underlying driving force behind the race to enlightenment for the majority of meditators, that and the supposed end of suffering, acquisition of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-19 Thread salyavin808
You live next door to Johnny Rotten? Poor you! I've got a live Cream DVD and they are superb but he isn't me favourite drummer, too skittery for me, I prefer the solidity of John Bonham. Cream were better than the sum of their parts I think, I never liked Clapton much afterwards either.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moses and Consciousness

2014-05-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mike, That was a good catch you made. Nonetheless, my point is that there is a lot of wisdom in the OT texts if one looks at it from both the literal and symbolic sense. IMO, however, the Jews are still taking the coming of the messiah, as prophesied by Isaiah and the other prophets, in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: 8 of the World's Most Beautiful Gardens, How Your Mind Impacts Your Metabolism, Is Gluten 'Sensitivity' Real?

2014-05-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
In 1972 when an ND told me I couldn't be a vegetarian because I was already showing signs of anemia after just two weeks of trying a veggie diet, he also told me that most people could get by one eating animal protein two or three times a week. On some of the political boards the vegan liberal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Yes, he is quite acerbic. A true pitta! In fact you'll notice in the trailer at the end he is hitting the guy doing the documentary with his cane. I saw him play with the Cream and Stevie Winwood but never met the guy. If I did I'm sure we would have sat around talking drums. BTW, I see o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread nablusoss1008
Thanks for this correction Steve. The Turq has claimed inside info on something that happened 40 years ago, and why ? Because the others have either moved on or are still around but shun this blog. The Turq is simply stuck in stuff he didn't understand AND that happened 2 generations ago. I fe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the case of Jim, he is simply playing, toying with Barry. He knows it gets to him. I don't think Jim takes himself that seriously and if you read his recent posts he is simply taking it over the top to push the envelope to see what comes out

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-19 Thread salyavin808
I heard a good story about Ginge, don't know if it's true but apparently he used to work in a bank and one day told the manager that he was quitting to become a famous drummer. The manager said but you don't play drums, and Ginge replied, not yet! He came across as a total asshole in a rece

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: 8 of the World's Most Beautiful Gardens, How Your Mind Impacts Your Metabolism, Is Gluten 'Sensitivity' Real?

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I remember hearing in nutrition class, the average protein requirement is 60 grams a day - I need more like a hundred, and can't do strict veggy - need meat at least once a week. When I worked for the movement I craved sugar constantly because I wasn't getting enough protein - got plenty of zucc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In the case of Jim, he is simply playing, toying with Barry. He knows it gets to him. I don't think Jim takes himself that seriously and if you read his recent posts he is simply taking it over the top to push the envelope to see what comes out of others - an alleged favourite tactic of Barry's.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee Rust

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I, for one, would like to see us Americans drink less coffee. It IS psychoactive, and we may just have less of a frenzy, in general, if we slowed down the caffeine intake a bit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Just a little ne

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
BTW, this documentary is excellent. I highly recommend it to those interested in the era and what an unusual character Baker is. He never has thought of himself as a rock drummer but a jazz drummer. In fact I recall that one of my drum teachers pointed out that Baker was not playing the typi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee Rust

2014-05-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Just a little news that proves the idea of 8,000 yogic flyers doing anything positive in Latin America is a joke. You are, apparently, a very literal-minded man MJ. http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/money/2014/05/09/central-american-fungu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for speaking up, Steve. I am so tired, as if it isn't obvious, of Barry, who quit the TMO 40 years ago, after having failed both his students, and himself. He then casts these false memories about, as if they were gold, and should be taken Very Seriously. Give me a break - Very Seriou

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga for Endurance

2014-05-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
That's what my mother always told me. But also said, "sometimes you gotta take the bull by the horns." :-D On 05/19/2014 12:04 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Take life as it comes. Any other questions?

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ha! Barry, or, "Mr. Mellow" as we call him, has tried his usual strategies against things I assert, that he does not want to hear. In order: 1. Try to make it all about me - negatively. 2. Do a 180 on his previous opinions, now that he has to defend them. and finally, 3. Go away for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: 8 of the World's Most Beautiful Gardens, How Your Mind Impacts Your Metabolism, Is Gluten 'Sensitivity' Real?

2014-05-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Thinking definitely effects but unfortunately just not enough to correct a long term imbalance. Tonifying = to tone up the body. For instance I knew a TM teacher who was a former university varsity football player who drug himself around trying live on a vegetarian diet. He could only work 4

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Ann, There is a certain etiquette regarding 'enlightenment'. I think it is OK to attempt to describe one's own experiences, but it is a mine field to try to characterise someone else's because there is the always present probability of misun

[FairfieldLife] Coffee Rust

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just a little news that proves the idea of 8,000 yogic flyers doing anything positive in Latin America is a joke. http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/money/2014/05/09/central-american-fungus-cripples-coffee-crop-may-affect-us-prices/ Central American Fungus Cripples Coffee Crop, May A... A fung

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I notice that sometimes when I'm feeling really happy, that can slip over into smugness. But if I think of someone or something for which I feel grateful, the smugness dissolves. So far it's been impossible to feel grateful and smug at the same time. I'm grateful for that (-: On Monday, May 19,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another "lost Maharishi teaching" that was WRONG

2014-05-19 Thread nablusoss1008
Nevertheless there finally is a growing understanding that Maharishi was right: the D. Lama is only a politician, and a failed one too who has been able to do nada for Tibet. Most people, at least over here seem to be fed up with that Lama, threats of economical sanctions from China or not. -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another "lost Maharishi teaching" that was WRONG

2014-05-19 Thread nablusoss1008
The utter failure of his hero the D.Lama to be received by ANY European government the last couple of weeks must really have gotten to poor Turq, so far two frantic anti-Maharishi posts today must be a new record low even for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 5/19/2014 5

Re: [FairfieldLife] 5/19-Maharishi: How Unity Consciousness becomes Brahman Consciousness & becomes a part of Brahman

2014-05-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Dick, thanks so much for posting this. I now receive these directly but it's fun to see it on FFL too! On Monday, May 19, 2014 7:15 AM, "Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote:   From: David Hooper 5/19-Maharishi: How Unity Consciousness becomes Brahman Consciousness & becom

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   Ann, There is a certain etiquette regarding 'enlightenment'. I think it is OK to attempt to describe one's own experiences, but it is a mine field to try to characterise someone else's because there is the a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-19 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, There is a certain etiquette regarding 'enlightenment'. I think it is OK to attempt to describe one's own experiences, but it is a mine field to try to characterise someone else's because there is the always present probability of misunderstanding the language they are using to describe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I know nothing about Rymer, but what you describe of his interactions with Maharishi was also true of Robin. There was no conflict between Robin and Maharishi until he showed up with his group (of mostly TM teachers) in Fairfield--seven years o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Heretical Heresy

2014-05-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : turq wrote: If TM cost less, and were not taught by a cult whose primary goal is to recruit new members of the cult to fill its coffers, I'd be able to suggest that people learn it. So I don't agree that my question was nonsensical. In fact,

[FairfieldLife] Wired.com debunks lucid dreaming study

2014-05-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Psychologists Give People Control of Their Dreams Using Brain Stimulation. Really? | Science Blogs | WIRED http://www.wired.com/2014/05/psychologists-give-people-control-of-their-dreams-using-brain-stimulation-really/?cid=social_20140512_23745144 http://www.wired.com/2014/05/psychologists-

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Thread-jacking or Subject-jacking

2014-05-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thread-jacking or Subject-jacking yep, it is an incredibly rude obliviousness to others that people should hijack threads and continue to drive on without adjusting the subject line. Another symptom of bad upbringing and the decay of ethical v

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Not Repsonsible"

2014-05-19 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"Wrong" by what criteria? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : There are many things that still surprise me about the things that long-term TM TBs believe and that I no longer believe, but I admit to having been somewhat taken aback yesterday at Lawson's seemingly unquestioning accep

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