[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra and Devata-One and the same.

2009-05-13 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On May 13, 2009, at 11:43 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > > > >> It's given me choices about how to interact with "creation" or the > > >> mandala of life, it makes life easier and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra and Devata-One and the same.

2009-05-13 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 13, 2009, at 10:20 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > Vaj, > > > > How has your knowledge of devata improved your life? > > It's given me choices about how to interact with "creation" or the > mandala of life, it makes life easier and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra and Devata-One and the same.

2009-05-13 Thread grate . swan
Vaj, How has your knowledge of devata improved your life? -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 12, 2009, at 7:19 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > >> > >> "For various purposes the Devatas are invoked. Mantra and Devat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now it can be told - the secret story behind Rishi, Devata, Chhandas, Swara

2009-05-13 Thread grate . swan
BJ, How has your knowlege of guhya-vidya improved your life? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim wrote: > > > Normal 0 Everyone wake up! > > > Vaj is about to reveal what that devil Maharishi concealed from us. (All so > he could bilk us of our hard earned c

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen glossary 1

2009-05-13 Thread grate . swan
Do you see demons in your patients? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > I found Robin to be fascinating and very clear. But I found many of his > followers in Fairfield had big demons stuck in their subtle bodies. It was > very strange. They looked like the creature from the

[FairfieldLife] Two jackasses parading as enlightened [Re: Empty Bill - The Balm of...]

2009-05-11 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > priceless! the two 'enlightened' poseurs in the same post! both peddling > their towering, stinky mountains of BS to the rest of us. > > wow- both of you guys are going to wake up one day and realize what colossal > jackasses

[FairfieldLife] Where's Curtis? (was: Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind)

2009-05-11 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On May 11, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > > Speaking of Curtis, he hasn't posted since April 28. I hope > > everything's OK in the Curtis Continuum. > > He's in Florence, undoubtedly doing the same > unspeakable things to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count & Meditator Status

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you pla

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count & Meditator Status

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 wrote: > > > > > > Are you planning retributive action towards > > > > those insufferable non-meditators? > > > yeah, i'd like to reset my spam filters accordingly. > > Like,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > Vaj wrote: > > > The interesting story of world-renowned psychologist, Paul Ekman, and > > > the resolution of a lifetime of anger. > > > > > > "A related project had its roots

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prison Awaiting FFLers?

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
"Proposed congressional legislation would demand up to two years in prison for those whose electronic speech is meant to 'coerce, intimidate, harass, or cause substantial emotional distress to a person.'" Wow. Some here could easily get 8 years per message - if you get bonus points for doing al

[FairfieldLife] Re: You're on the road to enlightenment..

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > grate.swan wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> You're on the road to enlightenment when you stop aggravating about > >> getting there. ;-) > >> > >> > > Ok I'll play. > > > > 60 seconds: Go

[FairfieldLife] The Meditator Boxes (was Re: Post Count & Meditator Status)

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > in other words Doug, your boxes are silly, trivial and even incorrect. > Turqy's boxes, on the other hand, are accurate, thoughtful and definitive. > > does anyone else see that Turqy is setting himself up as the one true > enl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count & Meditator Status

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > > > > > > > > FFL Meditators > > > > > > . Of the top ten writers, are they meditators? > > > > > > How many of the top 10 FFL writers could put 'yes' as meditator > > > next to their name? > > > > > > > Current practicing medita

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wanda Sykes rips at the White House Correspondent's Dinner

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On May 10, 2009, at 11:22 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: > > > I thought some of it was a little funny. But I think she is going > > to be perceived as being pretty crude. > > Yeah, much better we should have people getting > ripp

[FairfieldLife] Re: You're on the road to enlightenment..

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > You're on the road to enlightenment when you stop aggravating about > getting there. ;-) > Ok I'll play. 60 seconds: Go You are on the road to Enlightenment (YAORE) is when the road disappears YAORE when you disappear. YAORE when the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 10, 2009, at 12:15 PM, grate.swan wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > > In fact often it's only when one > >> moves oneself, shifts oneself in some way that unknowingly the > >> recognition dawns. Tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On May 10, 2009, at 8:22 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > > I like the DL (did I spell it right?). He is a sweet gentle man, and > > appears to have good insights. And a sense of humor. However, if he > > has the power of pacification, w

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > In fact often it's only when one > moves oneself, shifts oneself in some way that unknowingly the > recognition dawns. That's also why in many cases a sense of "shock" or > "surprise" can facilitate such recognition. I think the "mechanics

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 10, 2009, at 8:46 AM, raunchydog wrote: > > >> It's about having the appropriate instrument for investigation. If > >> you > >> want to look at the stars, it's fine if you have a nice telescope, > >> but > >> it's not that helpful

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > > Different from our perception,

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > Sure, but isn't the intellect (the working mind, not > > > the abstraction) exactly what inhibits getting

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-10 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On May 9, 2009, at 10:53 PM, grate.swan wrote: > > > > >>> But just, what if, A doesn't cause B and its just an illusion? > > >>> Then, despite the direct experience, its

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 9, 2009, at 10:22 PM, grate.swan wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On May 9, 2009, at 7:54 PM, grate.swan wrote: > >> > >>> Its a nice story. But why does A necessarily cause B? > >> > >> It

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 9, 2009, at 7:54 PM, grate.swan wrote: > > > Its a nice story. But why does A necessarily cause B? > > It's called pacification, and it's something that's known to happen. > It's nothing surprisingly new. It has some known characte

[FairfieldLife] Benjaman Button

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
I watch this on Blu-Ray last night. It appears to have been widely panned by the critics as empty despite its acknowledgly beautful set designs, cinematography and some strong actors (not necessarily in their best roles). As valid as those views may be, the film has some moments, by presenting s

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Balm of Enlightened-Mind

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
Its a nice story. But why does A necessarily cause B? Maybe cessation of anger came with age and would have happened any way. Maybe some clutch of saturn or mars was diminished for a while, maybe secretly did a yagya for him, maybe its a placebo effect, maybe his diet changed and he began to get

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > ] > > > > Different from our perception,

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > > > She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named and Curtis have interesting > > > > > discussions defending their POV. A

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Grate Swan, > > I do both here. I blog, and also, I comment with the hope > that I can get clearer about where I stand and where others > stand when our poems are distilled for concepts. > > But the main

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adam?

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Adam was the obvious winner of American Idol > right from his first audition. > > The guy's destined to be the biggest Idol > winner ever in that he truly brings a new > vision to anything he sings. > > He does look and sneer like

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > There's a difference betwee

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-09 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Please notice that in this rant you said *nothing* > > about the idea contained in my post -- that a > > tendency to "defend oneself" indicates a great > > deal of "self"

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-08 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > I'll > > just say what I say and allow those I say it > > about to react the way that *they* see fit. I > > feel no obligation to "back up" any of my opin- > > ions (because that is, in fact, what they are), > > > > I am perhaps hop

[FairfieldLife] My Theory, Which Is Mine (was Re: Emotional Masturbation)

2009-05-08 Thread grate . swan
> I'll > just say what I say and allow those I say it > about to react the way that *they* see fit. I > feel no obligation to "back up" any of my opin- > ions (because that is, in fact, what they are), I am perhaps hopelessly naive, but I had assumed that posts are primarily about sharing and

[FairfieldLife] Classic Defenses of the Six-Year Old: Re: My Dad's Stronger than Your Dad!

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > You forgot: > > 6) You refuse to argue with me, so there is > something wrong with you. Point well taken. (and I assume that is directed at me -- though it has multiple applications). There is a line between asking someone to substan

[FairfieldLife] Classic Defenses of the Six-Year Old: Re: My Dad's Stronger than Your Dad!

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
The list grows by leaps and bounds. Classic Defenses of the Six-Year Old: 1) My Dad is (WAY) Stronger than your Dad. 2) My Swiss army knife has 23 gizmos, your shitty little pieces of trash only has 17. 3) a "You are so stupid (and thus I am not going to say more)" 4) You are too la

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > >> > > So your argument appears primarily to be a scholarly a sort of > > comparative, historical view of meditation methods. Interesting, > > but of no value to me in any practical sense. > > If it was a scholarly comparative, etc. view, i

[FairfieldLife] Classic Defenses of the Six-Year Old: Re: My Dad's Stronger than Your Dad!

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
Thanks to some recent feedback from posters, the list has grown: Classic Defenses of the Six-Year Old: 1) My Dad is (WAY) Stronger than your Dad. 2) My Swiss army knife has 23 gizmos, your shitty little pieces of trash only has 17. 3) a "You are so stupid (and thus I am not going to say more)"

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dad's Stronger than Your Dad!

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 6, 2009, at 9:48 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > > There appears to be a huge amount of energy spent on two types of > > arguments popular among kids around 6: > > > > 1) My Dad is (WAY) Stronger than your Dad. > > > > 2) My Swiss army kn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 6, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Richard M wrote: > > > > Well I think the crux of the argument here would be that TM is > claiming to be from this tradition, yet time after time it comes up > against that tradition in terms of errors, typ

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Don't assume I was interested in going into any > > > lengthy defense. It's worthless to do such a thing > > > h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 6, 2009, at 9:37 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > >> Buddhist traditions of samadhi, and while the number of angas does > >> vary, the insistence of their sequential performance in all Hindu > >> yogic literature is quite notable, so much so

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Thought stoppers" -- the tool of choice of people whose thought stops?

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
I thought "stopping thought" was a good thing. or at a minimum a step towards a good thing. So you are complaining that some have developed a "mahavakaya" that can instantly stop thoughts? Wouldn't that actually be a good thing? :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > R

[FairfieldLife] My Dad's Stronger than Your Dad!

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
There appears to be a huge amount of energy spent on two types of arguments popular among kids around 6: 1) My Dad is (WAY) Stronger than your Dad. 2) My Swiss army knife has 23 gizmos, your shitty little pieces of trash only has 17. The first is acclaim by association. If I cam argue (even wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 6, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Richard M wrote: > > >> I think Vaj meant the 'angas' in Patanjali's Ashtanga (8 limbs) > >> Yoga, "With the practice of ALL of these limbs, **or means**, > >> simultaneously, the state of Yoga grows simultaneo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-06 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > It would be virtually impossible for them to do so without further > instruction and guidance. But with authentic instruction, they'd be a > ripe group for learning to do so. Perhaps it's best to think of TM > folks as a large, untapped

[FairfieldLife] Get out the vote! (Re: Sexy Time)

2009-05-05 Thread grate . swan
One of the reasons I strayed away (and stayed away) from the Movement was its cliqueness. I found even the "most profound" and experienced meditators and teachers all hung out together, and basically looked down on everyone else. No one else admitted. I was at a beach outing one day with them a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discovered: 200 trillion cubic feet of natural gas

2009-05-05 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > So profit is good. We never say profit is bad. The more profit, > > the more progress. What we speak out against is profit that hurts > > people. Then there is no real

[FairfieldLife] Re: Discovered: 200 trillion cubic feet of natural gas

2009-05-05 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > , "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > Discovered: 200 trillion cubic feet of na

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-05 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > I watched the one on yoga (and it's limbs) and found it really didn't > stand the test of time. In fact in terms of authentic lineal yoga > teachings, he was flat out WRONG. The most noticeable thing however > was his use of repeti

[FairfieldLife] Notice to the Group

2009-05-05 Thread grate . swan
** Note from Yahoo Groups ** We apologize if access to your group is slow or not accessible today. Your site has experienced unprecedented hits and request for memberships -- its a record, by a mile, for any Yahoo group in history. When prompted by an informal survey

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-04 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > The physiological/neurological research on TM has always been interesting > > and legit because its just a straight measure of brain wave activity. The > > problem has com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-04 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > The physiological/neurological research on TM has always been interesting > > and legit because its just a straight measure of brain wave activity. The > > problem has com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-04 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > The physiological/neurological research on TM has always been interesting and > legit because its just a straight measure of brain wave activity. The problem > has come in when there is an attempt to correlate these measure with complex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utopian voice in MUM

2009-05-04 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > The physiological/neurological research on TM has always been interesting and > legit because its just a straight measure of brain wave activity. The problem > has come in when there is an attempt to correlate these measure with complex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dollhouse: episode 11 -- Briar Rose (or, Joss explains "predation")

2009-05-03 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > The latest episode of Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse" opens > with Echo reading aloud from an illustrated children's > book to a young girl, maybe 12. The book is "Sleeping > Beauty," and Echo reads the story of how the handsome > prince finall

[FairfieldLife] Compersion, Polyamory and Spanish Rights to Nudity

2009-05-03 Thread grate . swan
Turq's post on the rights to nudity in the Spanish constitution is interesting in that as he I think touches on, nudity is such a taboo in many parts of the world -- socially, politically, religiously, etc. And the era of the new Spanish constitution -- the openess in spanish society that perha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum gods don't deserve your faith (?)

2009-05-03 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > Have you read the crit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Covering Up

2009-05-03 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > But not in Spain. Spain with its history of relig- > ious repression and the Inquisition and 40 years of > suffering under a Fascist dictator so warped and > uptight that he outlawed *dancing*, much less nudity. > The Spanish Constitu

[FairfieldLife] Re: I thought Nabby Left?

2009-05-02 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > Or is this his ghost haunting FFL? Just couldn't stay away I guess. > > > > > > This place sure has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fry at MUM

2009-05-02 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, drpetersutphen wrote: > > > Eat a chicken sandwich, > have hot sweaty sex for a few hours Liar! :) >and bask in the joyous abundance of God. Yeah baby! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:56 AM, "raunchydog" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fry at MUM

2009-05-02 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fry at MUM

2009-05-02 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > Fun is the perception of infinity flowing through > the finite. It is a natural consequence of the > practice of mi

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 29, 2009, at 11:12 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > > That's funny that your view of GD -- or any master of the tradition > > -- or any enlightenment tradition - is so one dimensional. "he did > > this, ergo he could have thought or done

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" > > wrote: > > > > > I really have nothing against the technique itself, never have. I > > still practice TM every

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" wrote: > > > > > > But of course we know that the reality is that loads of people would learn > > TM anyway if only the price was right, teachers could earn a living and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2009, at 10:27 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > > >> It's been said (sorry don't have a so

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 29, 2009, at 10:46 AM, geezerfreak wrote: > > > Yep, it could be. All we can do here is state our opinions based on > > the observations and input we have received so far in life. Mine > > tell me that GD would have paddled Mahesh

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > I'm also curious about the tr

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 29, 2009, at 10:27 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > >> It's been said (sorry don't have a source) that GD told Mahesh to go > >> to the mountains and meditate, that he would otherwise only be good > >> at making money. If this quote is true,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 29, 2009, at 10:02 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > > You can accept or reject either of these points. If you accept > > both (at least as reasonable and plausible) then its hard to buy a > > lot of this "GD would have been upset and d

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" wrote: > > > > > > But of course we know that the reality is that loads of people would learn > > TM anyway if only the price was right, teachers could earn a living and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Transcending the TM movement'

2009-04-29 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > I'm also curious about the true source of the > > > technique of using these particular bija mantras >

[FairfieldLife] Look who says he identifies with ethics (Re: State Of Play)

2009-04-28 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > > > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Theory on Dinosaur Doomsday.

2009-04-28 Thread grate . swan
I thought they went extinct because some were openly gay, others living together in sin, and many did not go to the dino-domes regularly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > > > New Blow Against Dinosaur-killing Asteroid Theory. > > > The enduringly popular theory th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Test your political compass

2009-04-28 Thread grate . swan
wrong* with them or are *inferior* in some way. From > > which it follows that if they *evolve* and see the light, they will > > of necessity come around to your way of thinking. > > So you disagree with the TM claim for improved moral reasoning ;-) > > You're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Test your political compass

2009-04-28 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Test your political compass

2009-04-28 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Look who says he identifies with ethics (Re: State Of Play)

2009-04-28 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > I have often maintained that Russell Crowe, despite > > > his "bad boy" image and sometimes real-life antics, > > > has an ethical streak a mile

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Recert & Raja Guidelines (2005)

2009-04-28 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > > > Anybody have time to save these to read as a post here or > > in the FFL files? Are a great source of insight to a way > > of thinking that proly ought to be saved.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Test your political compass

2009-04-28 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.politicalcompass.org/test > > > > > > > > > Thanks, that was fun. Just for the record I'm further

[FairfieldLife] Re: Google Results on TM

2009-04-26 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Google Results on TM

2009-04-26 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Google Results on TM

2009-04-26 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Google Results on TM

2009-04-26 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Google Results on TM

2009-04-26 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fairfi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Google Results on TM

2009-04-26 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Google Results on TM

2009-04-26 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance wrote: > > > > > > I have put the phrase "transcendental meditation" into Google and it > > > indicates

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brazil Law and Brazil Love

2009-04-25 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > For the record, this ra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Japanese were Executed for Waterboarding American troops

2009-04-25 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > Uh-oh. > > I suppose this means we will have to try and convict Harry Truman post-mortem > for approving and sanctioning the unnecessary execution of those Japanese > soldiers. > > While we're at it, why don't we convict him of dro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aversion and Attachement

2009-04-25 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > > Grate Swan, > > > > > > I'll

[FairfieldLife] Unemployment in Spain Hits 17.4% -- Thats Depression Levels that spurred Facsism

2009-04-25 Thread grate . swan
This and an article I posed last week indicate that Spain is leading Europe in a nose-diving economy. Unemployment above 20% led to massive social upheavals and totalitarian regimes in the past. And now from our News-FFL reporter, live from Spain: Turq, do you see signs and effects of the high

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aversion and Attachement

2009-04-25 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Grate Swan, > > I'll reply to your post. Several others have elbowed me, er, it was me > wasn't it? -- for having some sort of high-hatting snobby attitude about > strip club dancers. And your post seems

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ample Breasts

2009-04-24 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > I knew some young strippers who were at some jyotish > > workshops. I also knew a lingerie model (who had also > > worked with California Hardbodies) who was very > > inte

[FairfieldLife] Re: If you can see a Stripper, and see the bliss inside

2009-04-24 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Robert wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" wrote: > > > >> I like strippers, does that mean I'm enlightened? > >> (snip) > >> > > Don't lot's of guy's like strippers? > > Are they all enlightened? > > Give us a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Mother Divine Emerita and Divine Devi of the Global Country of World P

2009-04-24 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:13 AM, grate.swan wrote: > > > I don't get the TB scarlet letter placed upon her. What ever her > > shortcomings are, as we all have short comings, she doesn't talk > > like Science's spoof -- using the lofty cade

[FairfieldLife] Re: If you can see a Stripper, and see the bliss inside

2009-04-24 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" wrote: > > I like strippers, does that mean I'm enlightened? More so than if you hate, fear, cringe or are dismissive of strippers (or anybody). Some other stripper questions: Do strippers, particularly enlightened strippers, like you? Are t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Aversion and Attachement

2009-04-23 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 23, 2009, at 10:16 PM, grate.swan wrote: > > >> What an utter garbagedump FFL has turned into. > >> > > > > Many in spiritual circles appear attached to the concept of non- > > attachment -- but it appears to me (hardly a strong trut

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