--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was
> > like to have Guru Dev appear
> > > to you?
>
> snip
> > >
> > Sure- no problem. I hope I am not boring anyone who has heard
> Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was
> like to have Guru Dev appear
> > to you?
snip
> >
> Sure- no problem. I hope I am not boring anyone who has heard this
> before.
snip
>So it was a life changing experience, and he is my role model. The
> best.
I gues
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> T3rinity writes:
> It will be hard for any outsider to know. This text, I just found
on
> the net is instructive:
> "The nondual state of Nirbija-samadhi is often upheld as the
ultimate
>
T3rinity writes:
It will be hard for any outsider to know. This text, I just found on
the net is instructive:
"The nondual state of Nirbija-samadhi is often upheld as the ultimate
state. However, nonduality is the polar opposite of duality. it is
therefore also a function of duality. Liberation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 4/26/06 7:02 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Seems like Tom and Jim have both commented on "the knowledge of the
> >> nature
> >> of all things." what's the "Raincloud of virtue?" Is it like the
>
On Apr 26, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
> on 4/26/06 7:02 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Seems like Tom and Jim have both commented on "the knowledge of the
> >> nature
> >> of all things." what's the "Raincloud of virtue?" Is it like the
> >> raincloud
> >> that's alwa
on 4/26/06 7:02 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Seems like Tom and Jim have both commented on "the knowledge of the
>> nature
>> of all things." what's the "Raincloud of virtue?" Is it like the
>> raincloud
>> that's always above the head of that kid in the Peanuts strip?
>
> It's th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
>
> > on 4/25/06 6:28 PM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >> Since you've experienced th
On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> on 4/25/06 6:28 PM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-
> kalpena a
> >> la Vyasa) would you
Five stars, inspirational, informative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So the experience grew for me. After I got the sidhis I moved to
> southern cal to see a friend and lived in santa barbara for several
> years. The best I remember is I us
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 4/25/06 6:28 PM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-
kalpena a
> >> la Vyasa)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:24 PM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:02 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
on 4/25/06 6:28 PM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>
>> Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-kalpena a
>> la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the raincloud of
>> virtue and of
On Apr 25, 2006, at 10:24 PM, authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:02 PM, authfriend wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:02 PM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Since you've experienced th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:15 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was
> > like to have Guru Dev a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- jim_flanegin wrote:
> > >
> > > --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > jim_flanegin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The one thing I must be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Thank you so much. I am very moved to read this. This is important
to me just on a
> feeling level. I must have missed it when you posted it before.
Thank you.
You are very very welcome- I hope that it has he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:15 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was
> > like to have Guru Dev a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> wrote:
> >
> > on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote:
> >
> > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my
> > > desires, because they h
On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:15 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was
> like to have Guru Dev appear
> > to you? I am especially interested in what he seemed like
Thank you so much. I am very moved to read this. This is important to me just on a
feeling level. I must have missed it when you posted it before. Thank you.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Jim, would be able and willing to talk a bit about what it was
like to have Guru Dev appear
> to you? I am especially interested in what he seemed like because
his pictures seem
> extremely intense but somber.
On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:02 PM, authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-kalpena
> > > a la Vyasa) would you pl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
>
> > Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-kalpena
> > a la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the raincloud
> > of virtue and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
snip
'
> Eventually, after enough devotion to our Selves, after the
> false "I'm there!"s, the dark nights of the soul, in which we have
> lost the false underpinnings of who we thought we were, yet at the
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Since you've experienced the Self dwelling in Itself (atma-kalpena a
> la Vyasa) would you please share your experience of the raincloud of
> virtue and of the knowledge of the nature of all things (dharma-megha
> sa
On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:36 PM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
> Jim Flanegin writes: snipped
> It is at that time, that our desires are transformed from the
> machinery necessary for us to permanently awaken unto our Selves,
> into the machinery for us to expand our awake Selves further
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim Flanegin writes: snipped
> It is at that time, that our desires are transformed from the
> machinery necessary for us to permanently awaken unto our Selves,
> into the machinery for us
On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:38 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
> Jim Flanegin writes:
> Hey Tom, I am curious about the relationship your levitation
> experience you shared here, and having slipped onto a different
> stage as you mention above. Did the levitation serve (1) as that
> las
Jim Flanegin writes: snipped
It is at that time, that our desires are transformed from the
machinery necessary for us to permanently awaken unto our Selves,
into the machinery for us to expand our awake Selves further and
further into its Self, however that is concieved of. Desires become
th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Comments interleaved below.
>
> --- jim_flanegin wrote:
> > >
> > Ok, if you promise not to turn this into a semantics
discussion...
>
> Define "semantics."
>
> Just kidding.
Ha-Ha!
> > So, anyway, we
Comments interleaved below.
--- jim_flanegin wrote:
> >
> Ok, if you promise not to turn this into a semantics discussion...
Define "semantics."
Just kidding.
> So, anyway, we do this enough, and the veil between who we are
> (Self) and who we think we are (self) becomes thinner and thinne
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- jim_flanegin wrote:
> >
> > Prior to awakening I was often confused about why some things
> > happened in my life, and other things didn't. Applying the rule
> > stated above, that of Self, God acting th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote:
> > >
> >
--- jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> Prior to awakening I was often confused about why some things
> happened in my life, and other things didn't. Applying the rule
> stated above, that of Self, God acting through us, this makes sense,
> just as there is little confusion now about why things happen,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> wrote:
> >
> > on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote:
> >
> > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my
> > > desires, because they ha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- jim_flanegin wrote:
> >
> > --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > >
> > > jim_flanegin wrote:
> > >
> > > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my
> > > > desires, because they have a funny way of all comin
--- jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> --- Rick Archer wrote:
> >
> > jim_flanegin wrote:
> >
> > >The one thing I must be careful about now are my
> > > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly.
> >
> > Rick should win the lottery...
> > Rick should win the lottery...
> > Rick s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >The one thing I must be careful about now are my
> > desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly.
>
> Rick should win the l
on 4/25/06 11:12 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>The one thing I must be careful about now are my
> desires, because they have a funny way of all coming true, quckly.
Rick should win the lottery...
Rick should win the lottery...
Rick should win the lottery...
To subscribe
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim Flanegin writes:
> Hey Tom, I am curious about the relationship your levitation
> experience you shared here, and having slipped onto a different
> stage as you mention above. Did the
Jim Flanegin writes:
Hey Tom, I am curious about the relationship your levitation
experience you shared here, and having slipped onto a different
stage as you mention above. Did the levitation serve (1) as that
last boundary to break, and right onto Brahman, or was it instead
(2) a very pow
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> > >
> > > I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually
> > > transformative about obs
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TorquiseB writes: snipped
> > I never understood why people go to such lengths
> > to believe that their spiritual teachers or the
> > people they look up to are "extraordinary." It
> > seem
TorquiseB writes: snipped
> I never understood why people go to such lengths
> to believe that their spiritual teachers or the
> people they look up to are "extraordinary." It
> seems to me that it makes more sense to think
> of them as ordinary.
Jim Flanegin writes:
Its the same old quest to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What's to stick around for?
> >
> > Hey, just use the forum as it pleases
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What's to stick around for?
> >
> > Hey, just use the forum as it pleases
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> wrote:
> >
> > What's to stick around for?
>
> Hey, just use the forum as it pleases you to do so. I enjoy
> sharing my experiences here, and if some people do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 24, 2006, at 11:52 AM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > [...]
> > > In regards to siddhis, as I believe I indicated already, that's
more
> > > about yoga-darshana, i.e.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > > wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > wrote:
>
> > > The bottom line, as I see it, is that the wimps
> > > have WON, *espec
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> wrote:
> > The bottom line, as I see it, is that the wimps
> > have WON, *especially* after the migration of a
> > couple of compulsive-poster wimps from alt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A week or two after coming home from the 1993 course in Washington DC
> I gradually woke up one beautiful morning at our boat. It had been
> perfect weather for sleeping and I had slept with j
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> And just as a quick followup, I probably won't
> be around here that much longer anyway, because
> the wimps seem to have succeeded in silencing
> most of the interesting people.
>
> You'll notice that most of the
It seems to me when one first integrates with the non-dual state
there is a state of total relaxation and all the muscles in the body
just open up as all tension is gone. The funny thing that happens is
the mind realizes *something* has changed: wow, all This is me? As
soon as that happe
A week or two after coming home from the 1993 course in Washington DC
I gradually woke up one beautiful morning at our boat. It had been
perfect weather for sleeping and I had slept with just a sheet over
me. As I woke up there was an unusual feeling of freedom and serenity.
Since I woke up grad
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > The bottom line, as I see it, is that the wimps
> > have WON, *especially* after the migration of a
> > couple of compulsive-poster wimps from alt.m.
On Apr 24, 2006, at 11:52 AM, sparaig wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> > In regards to siddhis, as I believe I indicated already, that's more
> > about yoga-darshana, i.e. not Advaita Vedanta.
> >
>
> So you believe that Patanjali made thi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> In regards to siddhis, as I believe I indicated already, that's more
> about yoga-darshana, i.e. not Advaita Vedanta.
>
So you believe that Patanjali made this distinction between Yoga and
Advaita Vedanta?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cool. Thanks for posting your experience. It takes
> some guts to do so on this forum.
Actually, what it takes guts--or more accurately,
chutzpah--to do is to post your experiences and
use them as weapons to attack
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The bottom line, as I see it, is that the wimps
> have WON, *especially* after the migration of a
> couple of compulsive-poster wimps from alt.m.t.
> Those two, together with anon_couscous and a
> few others who don'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The rest of the people strike me as pretty boring,
> actually. I mean, LOOK at them! THEIR approach to
> levitation and such things is that they want it
> to be a scientific, measurable phenomenon so that
> there is
On Apr 23, 2006, at 7:27 PM, t3rinity wrote:So Ramana was not in favor of testing, thats for sure. I also don'tthink he thought that a Jnani had to manifest siddhis. OTOH thescriptures make it clear that the manifestation of siddhis are noindication of enlightenment. They could be accomplished by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Those two, together with anon_couscous and a
> few others who don't even have the balls ...
One less thing to be attached to I suppose.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> > >
> > > I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually
> > > transformative about obs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> >
> > I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually
> > transformative about observing levitation- I mean if
> > it really happened.
>
> Finally, a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ok here's one. Around 1983 or so I had an experience that may have
> > been hovering. I can't be absolutely certain, but it met my own
> self
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Ok here's one. Around 1983 or so I had an experience that may have
> been hovering. I can't be absolutely certain, but it met my own
self
> tests at the time. Practicing the flying sutra, during a period of
> l
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> >
> > I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually
> > transformative about observing levitation- I mean if
> > it really happened.
>
> Finally, a p
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually
> transformative about observing levitation- I mean if
> it really happened.
Finally, a point worth dealing with.
It's because it makes you deal with your own
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:04 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
>
> > I enjoyed getting turned on to his "thing". I found it
> > quite refreshing and genuine. Then again, thanks for turning me
on to
> > Mother Meer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> \...]
> > Another, related question is, how would witnessing such a levitation
> > just as an onlooker change yourself? That for me would be more valid
> > in m
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As was shared on here a while back, even in recent times when masters
> have claimed enlightenment, the test almost always involved some
> performance of siddhi.
Ah, ja, where, when, examples please?
>
> Since yogic fl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff"
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
> > >
> > > > Because
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff"
wrote:
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> > > > --- I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> >
> > On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
> >
> > > Because its inconvenient? To have some non-subjective
> > > non-self-interpreative means t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
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> > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that
levitation is
> > > an objective manifestation of unity. I've never heard him say
it,
> > > either live or on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
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> > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that
levitation is
> > > an objective manifestation of unity. I've never heard him say
it,
> > > either live or on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:45 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
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> > > As was shared on here a while back, even in recent times when
> > masters
> > > have claimed enlightenment, the test almost always involved some
> > > perfo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
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> > > The point I was making, though, that he has a need to
> > > believe he's being
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
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> > Because its inconvenient? To have some non-subjective
> > non-self-interpreative means to point to higher states?
> >
> > Objective reality gets in the way of s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
\...]
> Another, related question is, how would witnessing such a levitation
> just as an onlooker change yourself? That for me would be more valid
> in my eyes. Lets say some tribal people in Africa see a plane first
> ti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"
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> > > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation i
On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is
> > an objective manifestation of unity. I've never heard him say it,
> > either live or on tape. I've only heard others report that he has. I
> > certainly don't know if that a
On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:04 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
> I enjoyed getting turned on to his "thing". I found it
> quite refreshing and genuine. Then again, thanks for turning me on to
> Mother Meera. I have enjoyed getting acquanited with her "thing".
>
Careful, Lurk, or you'll get us pu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"
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> > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation
is
> > an objective manifestation of unity. ... I certainly don't know if
On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:45 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
> > As was shared on here a while back, even in recent times when
> masters
> > have claimed enlightenment, the test almost always involved some
> > performance of siddhi.
> >
> > Since yogic flying belongs to yoga-darshana, it's only sens
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > > wr
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> > > >
> > >
But if they didn't run into a phone booth beforehand to change their
clothes, it doesn't count.
On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Vaj wrote:
> As was shared on here a while back, even in recent times when masters
> have claimed enlightenment, the test almost always involved some
> performanc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote:
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> > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is
> > an objective manifestation of unity. ... I certainly don't know if
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > The point I was making, though, that he has a need to
> > believe he's being criticized because his critics are
> > jealous of his experiences, which
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
>
> > Because its inconvenient? To have some non-subjective
> > non-self-interpreative means to point to higher states?
> >
> > Objective reality gets in the way of s
On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
> Because its inconvenient? To have some non-subjective
> non-self-interpreative means to point to higher states?
>
> Objective reality gets in the way of some story-tellers -- which to
> them [the stories] form a higher truth than measureme
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> The point I was making, though, that he has a need to
> believe he's being criticized because his critics are
> jealous of his experiences, which is just wildly
> delusionary, not to mention self-serving.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote:
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> > As far as I know only Maharishi has ever asserted that levitation is
> > an objective manifestation of unity. ... I certainly don't know if
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