[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-05 Thread anonymousff
I was original anon poster of this question. Finally back online to see descriptions of indescribable. Thanks for expositions of opinions. Given these responses, is there anybody here who claims this liberated state? Or close to it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was original anon poster of this question. Finally back online to see descriptions of indescribable. Thanks for expositions of opinions. Given these responses, is there anybody here who claims this liberated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread hanumanhoffman9
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be liberated? Jaya Guru Deva Datta From Gita: http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/bhaktimala/oct2000/gitajoct2000.html Lessons from Bhagavad Gita - 84 (From the discourses

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread hanumanhoffman9
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be liberated? Moksha: liberation, final emancipation of the soul from the cycle of births and deaths Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why there are far more ants than elephants.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have experienced many people with and without the stink of an ego. Are all of the latter liberated? All the former bound?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is what it means to be liberated. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Do teachers and guides create the game by first

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip With regard to spiritual teachers plant[ing] the idea that you are bound so they can sell you the means to become unbound..., it is like any other advertisement- we don't respond to it unless we recognize the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip With regard to spiritual teachers plant[ing] the idea that you are bound so they can sell you the means to become unbound..., it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip With regard to spiritual teachers plant[ing] the idea that you are bound so they can sell you the means to become unbound..., it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-04 Thread bbrigante
MMY's SBAL http://www.21stbooks.com/page/21stbooks/prod/ma4567 , Experiencing and the Art of Being (~p.109): Without the art of Being on the level of experience, when the process of experience brings the subject in contact with the object, then the subject, without the state of Being,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 10:59 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be liberated? Realizing that you were never bound. I am silly enough to not even know I was bound. Am I now

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 10:59 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be liberated? Realizing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be liberated? Every action we take is designed to influence our future. When I was younger, my consciousness discriminated between spacetime and Enlightenment, between

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 10:59 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be liberated?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 10:59 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be liberated? Every action we take is designed to influence our future. When I was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 10:59 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be liberated? Every action we take is designed to influence our future. When I was younger, my consciousness discriminated between spacetime

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, they are the few that realize within some Was that in the recent Zogby poll? What was the percentage? Else, how do you know its a few? From what the world's attention is focused on. If it were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Do teachers and guides create the game by first disclosing you are bound and ignorant? And then further the game by saying and here is the path to get out of boundaries and ignorance ? I suspect it varies with the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread Peter
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats another facet of the co-dependent bound/not-bound cycle story. When one becomes liberated, they become superior. Have you actually experienced that with liberated people? Superiority/arrogance is the stink of an ego, not of liberated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Do teachers and guides create the game by first disclosing you are bound and ignorant? And then further the game by saying and here

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats another facet of the co-dependent bound/not-bound cycle story. When one becomes liberated, they become superior. Have you actually experienced that with liberated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, they are the few that realize within some Was that in the recent Zogby poll? What was the percentage? Else, how

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats another facet of the co-dependent bound/not-bound cycle story. When one becomes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested to know what does it mean to be liberated? Every action we take is designed to influence our future.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why there are far more ants than elephants. And I suppose you are an elephant? Last time I looked in the mirror, I wasn't. You?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have experienced many people with and without the stink of an ego. Are all of the latter liberated? All the former bound? The stink of ego that you are so familiar with transforms into the perfume of Ego in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is what it means to be liberated. And the upside is what? Being successful in every endeavor undertaken, from the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definition of one Liberated

2005-12-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip No that doesn't make much sense in that if boundaries