--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis
reavismarek@
wrote:
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Barry writes snipped:
The nature of the Image probably doesn't matter; it's the *process* of
focusing one's attention that's important. And once the
powerful attention of a powerful seeker has been focused
on an object or a place or an activity, something of that
attention remains, even when the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Barry writes snipped:
The nature of the Image probably doesn't matter;
it's the *process* of focusing one's attention
that's important. And once the powerful attention
of a powerful
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote:
Barry writes snipped:
The nature of the Image probably doesn't matter;
it's the *process* of
Thanks for everyone who responded to my question about our
relationship to dead people like Jesus. As I had hoped I was able to
read some fascinating perspectives. Some really took the ball and ran
into some complex worldview shifting perspectives, Turq, Marek, and
Edg (special mention goes to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Apr 16, 2007, at 8:58 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
This is human tragedy dressed up as spirituality IMO. It really
upsets
me to think of kids being subjected to this.
You're not kidding. The kind of faux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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If you take my perspective (and I
think Sal's) meditating parents need to re-focus on her job of
raising
these kids and spend less time with their attention on their own
self.
(capitalizing the S doesn't get
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for everyone who responded to my question about our
relationship to dead people like Jesus. As I had hoped I
was able to read some fascinating perspectives. Some really
took the ball and ran into some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Thanks for everyone who responded to my question about our
relationship to dead people like Jesus. As I had hoped I
was able to
On Apr 16, 2007, at 8:58 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
This is human tragedy dressed up as spirituality IMO. It really upsets
me to think of kids being subjected to this.
You're not kidding. The kind of faux spirituality that says it's ok to
neglect your kids (which basically the TMO appears
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**snip**
For me the key to what you say above is in the phrase
repeated applications of attention. The Rama fellow I
studied with for a while used to talk about storing
power, focusing one's
On Apr 17, 2007, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Parents who are
depressed are also emotionally and physically unavailable.
That's what a lot of these experiences seem to me to be--undiagnosed
low-grade depression that people are simply unwilling to face up to, so
they try to convince
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Apr 17, 2007, at 10:54 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Parents who are
depressed are also emotionally and physically unavailable.
That's what a lot of these experiences seem to me to be--
On Apr 17, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
Much of the focus of the TMO over the years I was involved (and I
have
no reason to think it's changed, in fact it might even be more so
now)
seems to be to put as much in between people and their children as
they
can, or even between
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for everyone who responded to my question about our
relationship to dead people like Jesus. As I had hoped I was able
to
read some fascinating perspectives. Some really took the ball and
ran
into some
I thought I had clarified my personal biases pretty well, perhaps not.
I also tried to acknowledge that there were other ways to look at it
and we didn't have all the facts. I was writing what I felt. I have
read enough stories from Dome-parent raised kids to suspect that I
wasn't that far off
On Apr 17, 2007, at 1:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
My point was that *even as a single incident* it could
be traumatic for the kids, not just at that moment but
long term, *especially* if the mother were normally
highly responsible and rational. Depends a lot on the
kids' age, though.
Right, so
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was there when she told the story. This experience was a one-time
deal that occurred when she Awakened. Before and after that, she
carried on as a normal, responsible person.
I'm sure she is. I just think the story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Apr 17, 2007, at 1:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
My point was that *even as a single incident* it could
be traumatic for the kids, not just at that moment but
long term, *especially* if the mother were normally
Hilariously written, and pointed questions to which
I have no answers. I don't tend to relate much to
dead folks, because as far as I can tell they're...
uh...dead.
On the other hand, I know quite a few people who
*do* claim to have an ongoing relationship with dead
people, and who claim this
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a recent posting exchange about Andrew Sullivan's beliefs, I was
struck by his claim that Jesus loves him. Since that time, I have
seen about one thousand bumper stickers on neighbor's cars
When it comes to forming a fantasy relationship: it's not hard!
I remember practicing puja in my hotel room -- bottom half naked. I
was rounding, and I would get up and do a puja and wouldn't bother
getting dressed. Then, at some point, I just couldn't be naked in
front of Guru Dev any more.
More seriously...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The phrase Jesus loves you is totally mainstream and doesn't
raise an eyebrow anywhere. I don't suppose that people are all
referring to a mystical vision of Jesus although I'm sure some
are.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Curtis, you sure know how to put out the kind of velcro I get
snagged on; this is an excellent topic and one I've been thinking
about and playing with for a while, though with no resolution or
even fine definition
[Comments interleaved]:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@
wrote:
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But it seems to me that the initial presumption of the reality of
time and therefore the sequential and
--Naomi Wolf gets religion NAOMI WOLF has found Jesus!
la times ^ | January 27, 2006 | Rosa Brooks
Posted on 01/27/2006 9:06:30 PM PST by tbird5
Wolf first made a name for herself with The Beauty Myth, a 1991
feminist critique of feminine stereotypes. Admired by some and
ridiculed by others,
When it comes to forming a fantasy relationship: it's not hard!
I remember practicing puja in my hotel room -- bottom half naked. I
was rounding, and I would get up and do a puja and wouldn't bother
getting dressed. Then, at some point, I just couldn't be naked in
front of Guru Dev any more.
Barry writes snipped:
Exactly. Even though I've had a few strong past-
life memories, my suspicion is that it isn't a
phenomenon related to memory of a past event
at all. It's more of a shifting of my attention
such that two *simultaneous* lifetimes occuring
in timelessness are perceived
Barry writes snipped:
That's pretty much my take on it, too. Time is the
illusion, and timelessness is more the reality. Or
one reality, anyway.
TomT;
From Jean Kline. The awakening was instantaneous. Clarity takes place
in Space/Time. The awakening takes palace beyond time and then we get
Social services? Yeah, I've got a report on a mom who needs some help
here. She is experiencing a high level of depersonalization and she
may not be mentally fit enough to care for her kids. She is at the
neglecting meals stage of abuse and I don't think we want to find
out what comes next. You
On Apr 16, 2007, at 9:58 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Social services? Yeah, I've got a report on a mom who needs some help
here. She is experiencing a high level of depersonalization and she
may not be mentally fit enough to care for her kids. She is at the
neglecting meals stage of abuse and
curtisdeltablues :
This is human tragedy dressed up as spirituality IMO. It really
upset me to think of kids being subjected to this.
TomT:
At that point Mom knows where and what liftime she is in and all the
memories come back. Mom then gets up and makes pancakes.
Yea, this story is
--It's also true that (in the relative sense - don't forget the other
100% of life!!); Jean Klein had a stroke and spent the last 6 months of
his life as a vegetable. Looks like he devolved to a lower form of
life toward the end.
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When it comes to forming a fantasy relationship: it's not hard!
I remember practicing puja in my hotel room -- bottom half naked. I
was rounding, and I would get up and do a puja and wouldn't
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:59 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Jesus love you? CAN Jesus love you?
Social services? Yeah, I've got a report on a mom who needs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2007, at 9:58 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Social services? Yeah, I've got a report on a mom who
needs some help here. She is experiencing a high level
of depersonalization and she may not be mentally fit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:59 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Jesus love you? CAN
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
When it comes to forming a fantasy relationship: it's not hard!
I remember practicing puja in my hotel room -- bottom half
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@
wrote:
snip
[Barry wrote:]
I agree, even though the personality of Jesus may
not be actually present. The idea of him still is,
as long as you focus on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@
wrote:
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[Barry wrote:]
I agree, even though the personality of Jesus may
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