[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread m2smart4u2000
Who specifically told you to leave? Was it a westerner? That would seem inappropriate in India FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is good. Your encyclo source is saying then that it was a > traditional Hindu funeral. Different than Vedic. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread dhamiltony2k5
This is good. Your encyclo source is saying then that it was a traditional Hindu funeral. Different than Vedic. Same thing i got from asking around to other sources. As in, Vedic is based on vedic scripture; and as such, older than the religion of Hinduism. Hence, the funeral was eviden

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > > Well, nothing in the 'vedic scripture' proscribes this particular > > distinction about funeral rites. No separation by gender from > > scripture

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, nothing in the 'vedic scripture' proscribes this particular > distinction about funeral rites. No separation by gender from > scripture in Shastra and the like, hence this particular funeral part > about g

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread Rick Archer
I’ve been out of the loop on this discussion, but just wanted to mention that Amma officiated at mass cremations for tsunami victims, and no one seemed to mind: HYPERLINK "http://www.amritapuri.org/tsunami/smriti.php"http://www.amritapuri.org/tsun ami/smriti.php. But then she’s never been a stickle

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread dhamiltony2k5
> > > then he said the words > that pierced me: "It would be BAD KARMA for > > > MAHARISHI for you to be > here, and it would be BAD KARMA FOR YOU to > > > be here." You must leave... > > > > > > > > > yep, I thought that was 24 karat pure bullshit too-- sounded like "the > > boogey-man'

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've always treated women as a religious food experience. Get a checking !

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Again with the relativism. Are you equating religious food > practices with treating women as second class citizens? Is that bad? I've always treated women as a religious food experience. Some have even tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
> So if you walk into a Jewish temple munching on a regular pepperoni pizza (meat + cheeze), > you don't apologize for your ignorance and walk out if someone points out to you that you > are in a kosher establishment? Again with the relativism. Are you equating religious food practices with treati

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > then he said the words > that pierced me: "It would be BAD KARMA fo

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When in Rome, and all that. > > > > > Cultural relativism is very popular today, but not with me. "I am Rome." > So if you walk into a Jewish temple munching on a regular pepperoni pizza (meat + cheeze

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
> When in Rome, and all that. > Cultural relativism is very popular today, but not with me. "I am Rome." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > then he said the words > that pierced me: "It would be BAD KARMA for > > MAHARISHI for you to be > here, and it would be BAD KARMA FOR YOU t

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > India vs. LSD > > I latched on to that comparison immediately..Both are full > of vibrant colors, in both trips everything seems intensely > significant, and then there's the bugs crawling on > ya...sorry

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-06 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: First I will go to Vizag, Calcutta, and Assam, and visit > Devipuram, Khalighat, and Kamakhya. And also probably Babadham and the very > powerful Tarapeeth. It will be a great yatra I am sure. I have been to none of these

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Mr. Ed
x27;t > wait to go someday. First I will go to Vizag, Calcutta, and Assam, and visit > Devipuram, Khalighat, and Kamakhya. And also probably Babadham and the very > powerful Tarapeeth. > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Kirk
From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I would have loved to go. I have

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Projection, Michael. > > > > And when you say I come across as an arrogant asshole, that must > have > > been projection as well I guess. > > > you sound like a decent soul passing on some information to me. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Michael wrote: > > > > >> You did more than share, you rationalized the practice of > > >> discrimination. > > > > > > N

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would have loved to go. I have never been to India, never having had two > dimes to rub together. I believe you! I love India too, its like an LSD trip (well I don't know how that is, but I think its like being in India

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > then he said the words > that pierced me: "It would be BAD KARMA for > MAHARISHI for you to be > here, and it would be BAD KARMA FOR YOU to > be here." You must leave... > yep, I thought that was 24 karat pu

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Michael wrote: > > >> Let them decide that, is all I'm saying. > > > > I am all for that, but ITS NOT MY DECISION. > > Why not? Couldn't you have said something? > > > I'm not in charg

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Kirk
I would have loved to go. I have never been to India, never having had two dimes to rub together. - Original Message - From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation > -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Michael wrote: Let them decide that, is all I'm saying. I am all for that, but ITS NOT MY DECISION. Why not? Couldn't you have said something? I'm not in charge. Couldn't you have spoken up anyway? Or did you agree with the treatment those women were gett

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well I guess you prefer to sit at home in front of your TV or computer > > and give your live commentary from a save distance. > > -Yeah. It's true I prefer not to be part of stampedes. But now that you > mention

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread curtisdeltablues
then he said the words > that pierced me: "It would be BAD KARMA for MAHARISHI for you to be > here, and it would be BAD KARMA FOR YOU to be here." You must leave... Great! One bitch doesn't know her place, and now Maharishi is gunna miss seconds on ice cream night in heaven for eternity! Ni

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Kirk
talk, instead of coming across as an arrogant >> asshole. > > And I had thought there was something like a code for basic courtesy > on this board. --Assumption of the decade. > >>It was you, I believe, who said the ascent would be too >> tough for western women, or something to that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Vaj
On Mar 5, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Michael wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Michael wrote: > > >> You did more than share, you rationalized the practice of > >> discrimination. > > > > No, I didn't. I just pointed to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Kirk
> Well I guess you prefer to sit at home in front of your TV or computer > and give your live commentary from a save distance. -Yeah. It's true I prefer not to be part of stampedes. But now that you mention it, I was just one of those poor shmucks who could not afford to traipse across the

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Michael wrote: > > >> You did more than share, you rationalized the practice of > >> discrimination. > > > > No, I didn't. I just pointed to the source. > > Michael, thee were your exact

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Michael wrote: > > > Its so heard here to say > > anything without being immediately put into some kind of a box or > > being misunderstood. > > So think before you talk, instead of comi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Michael wrote: You did more than share, you rationalized the practice of discrimination. No, I didn't. I just pointed to the source. Michael, thee were your exact words: The ascent to the burning place was a tough one anyway, not really suited for most western wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "So please get this right madam - I am not > saying Hindu things are right, I was just saying its a > Hindu rule > rather than a movement rule, thats all." > > Not a TMO rule? No, a Hindu rule, I asked othe

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > see http://www.hindu.com/2008/02/08/stories/2008020859321400.htm > > "New Delhi: The Kerala government on Thursday filed an affidavit in > > the Supreme Court favouring entry of women of all ages into the > > Sabarimal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Angela Mailander
"So please get this right madam - I am not saying Hindu things are right, I was just saying its a Hindu rule rather than a movement rule, thats all." Not a TMO rule? That's why Purusha was so passionate about the presence of women, rather than apologetic? And that's why there are no women in hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Michael wrote: > > > Well I didn't keep anyone away if thats what you mean. Why is it so > > difficult to share some observations without being attacked for it. > > You did more than sha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Kirk
> see http://www.hindu.com/2008/02/08/stories/2008020859321400.htm > "New Delhi: The Kerala government on Thursday filed an affidavit in > the Supreme Court favouring entry of women of all ages into the > Sabarimala Ayyappa temple without restriction. At present, women in > the age group 10-50 are

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > . The ascent to the burning place > > was a tough one anyway, not really suited for most western women. > > ---Yeah, their pussies get in the way. Oh wait, maybe they'll bleed on > something. Or more likely some devout H

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Michael wrote: Well I didn't keep anyone away if thats what you mean. Why is it so difficult to share some observations without being attacked for it. You did more than share, you rationalized the practice of discrimination. Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Michael wrote: Its so heard here to say anything without being immediately put into some kind of a box or being misunderstood. So think before you talk, instead of coming across as an arrogant asshole. It was you, I believe, who said the ascent would be too tou

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Michael wrote: > > > The movement had built a sort of an alternative altar-room for > > women in the hall where Maharishisbody was kept for the last 24 > > hours, and men were prohibi

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Michael wrote: > > > I sort of wondered, why no women where there, and thought its one of > > those patriarchical movement rules, but later heard that its a general > > religious Hindu in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Kirk
. The ascent to the burning place > was a tough one anyway, not really suited for most western women. ---Yeah, their pussies get in the way. Oh wait, maybe they'll bleed on something. Or more likely some devout Hindu will get a horrible erection and inadvertantly cum themself to death. Or not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Michael wrote: The movement had built a sort of an alternative altar-room for women in the hall where Maharishisbody was kept for the last 24 hours, and men were prohibited to go there. How thoughtful of them. I think this was a nice move. The ascent to the bu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Michael wrote: I sort of wondered, why no women where there, and thought its one of those patriarchical movement rules, but later heard that its a general religious Hindu injunction for funerals. IOW, patriarchal and misogynist--you had it right the first time. As

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread Michael
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yep-- in situations that you describe, I always end up feeling > sorriest for the asshole. After all, you can work out and get over > the experience, whereas the person that yelled at you number one has > to live

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2008, at 9:09 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: > > > Then another guy came running towards us and I avoided him seeing my > > face, I knew him.. and I didn't want anymore of his judgements, about > > me being th

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: eye-witness at the cremation

2008-03-05 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some of those Purusha guys are the biggest assholes. I remember during the > Taste of Utopia when I wanted to see Maharishi up close in the field house > and I has very bad vision and so I went into the purusha group t