On Jul 22, 2008, at 4:51 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
So you deny all connection to this Saraswati bija idea then? ;-)
Is Saraswati married to Santa Clause?
No, just certain TMers.
For those who find belief in gods and goddesses untenable, there's no
real need to cling to such
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 22, 2008, at 4:51 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
So you deny all connection to this Saraswati bija idea then? ;-)
Is Saraswati married to Santa Clause?
No, just certain TMers.
For those who find belief in
On Jul 23, 2008, at 9:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 22, 2008, at 4:51 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
So you deny all connection to this Saraswati bija idea then? ;-)
Is Saraswati married to Santa Clause?
No, just
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For those who find belief in gods and goddesses untenable, there's
no
real need to cling to such stories. In terms of modern psychology
and
neuroscience it would be easier to say that certain sounds have
certain effects on the brain, which have the potential, over time,
to
On Jul 23, 2008, at 11:26 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
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For those who find belief in gods and goddesses untenable, there's
no
real need to cling to such stories. In terms of modern psychology
and
neuroscience it would be easier to say that certain sounds have
certain effects on the
snip
That may be true. I find it hard to believe that earlier cultures
were able to figure this out rather than just going with their
religious meanings in choosing sounds. It seems like a difficult
thing to test.
It is completely knowable in those traditions, albeit not through
Vaj wrote:
I prefer honesty (Swami Rama approach)
rather than being lied to (the
meaningless sound canard).
Did the Marshy say that the TM mantras
were meaningless sound? I think not.
The TM mantras have no semantic meaning,
but they are not meaningless - everything
has meaning, but not
On Jul 23, 2008, at 12:53 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
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That may be true. I find it hard to believe that earlier cultures
were able to figure this out rather than just going with their
religious meanings in choosing sounds. It seems like a difficult
thing to test.
It is completely
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 23, 2008, at 11:26 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
snip
For those who find belief in gods and goddesses untenable, there's
no
real need to cling to such stories. In terms of modern psychology
and
neuroscience
On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:31 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:
I went to Honesdale, with an audiotape of Guru Dev (before Paul
translations) to see
about the possibility of translation. Walked into the bookstore and
asked if Swami Rama
was there. As if on cue he walked in, in a maroon bathrobe (in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just watching Verma talking on Maharishi Channel, back in MERU I
imagine, and seemingly all is back to normal again. Maybe was a false
alarm... He is being very productive in India - good luck to him.
Girish does NOT
IT'S FUCKING WESTERN MONEY AND OUR FUCKING VALUES SHOULD FOLLOW THAT
MONEY.
I'm gunna give you credit for cracking a history book or two (after
MIU because Maharishi had contempt for history studies) Shemp.
Did the Brits keep Indian values as they sucked their colony dry? It
doesn't work
I lived in Fairfield for almost 30 years and left there about 4 years
ago...TM etc did not solve folks problems, I have good friends
that were 110% loyal to MMY's teachings, everything, I would even
call them fundementalists ru's, Vastu, group program, ayerveda,
devotion to MMY, they
Now, FF is an easy place to live, it has really good vibes from all
the meditation going on, there is a community feeling and support
network there like no place I have ever been...I was happy in my
life there and I am happy in my life not there!
Taking responsibility for your own
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IT'S FUCKING WESTERN MONEY AND OUR FUCKING VALUES SHOULD FOLLOW
THAT
MONEY.
I'm gunna give you credit for cracking a history book or two (after
MIU because Maharishi had contempt for history studies) Shemp.
On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:06 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Now, FF is an easy place to live, it has really good vibes from all
the meditation going on, there is a community feeling and support
network there like no place I have ever been...I was happy in my
life there and I am happy in my
Thank Shemp. That was one of the best summations of your POV on the
movement that I have read. I don't really understand why 'it makes
sense that it is the answer', but it doesn't have to for me, that is
your POV. I really enjoy finding out all the grey zone articulations
of people's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, Betty, chances are that if they were into all this other crap,
they weren't doing the TM Program, which is by definition the
opposite of all those things (especially devotion to MMY).
I know it is just a bit of wizzing
one should not just assume that experiment would not work.
But I think was all make our choices based on our best guess
concerning probability right? I mean, you may not feel compelled to
test whether bowing in the direction of Mecca 5 times a day will make
everything in your life magically
Curtis wrote:
I don't meditate to improve my music,
I practice my ass off.
Practicing on your guitar is a meditation.
You've probably been meditating your ass off
for years without even realizing it.
If you are saying that some other practice
improves your musical ability, I say cool.
---Sure, one can be devoted to MMY as a form of mood-making; but on
a more technical level; (following the examples of other Traditions);
Guru-bhakti incorporates a form of meditation in which there's
a hard concentration of the form of the Guru at the 3-rd eye. The
mind isn't allowed to
On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
one should not just assume that experiment would not work.
But I think was all make our choices based on our best guess
concerning probability right? I mean, you may not feel compelled to
test whether bowing in the direction of Mecca 5
So you deny all connection to this Saraswati bija idea then? ;-)
Is Saraswati married to Santa Clause?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
one should not just assume that experiment would not work.
And you probably sit on a stage and take a
few bows sometimes as well. Guitarists love to
take bows - that makes them feel like a God
to their fans.
No, if you bow to your fans they are the God to you.
Guitar players love to get worshiped, just like gurus do.
Do tell. I wouldn't know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Shemp I know this may be hard for you to believe, And I never would
force you to believe anything you don't want to, but scientific
research has shown you can practice the TM program and TM Guru
Program
Now Shemp, lets not forget our sense of humor!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@
wrote:
Shemp I know this may be hard for you to believe, And I never
would
force you to believe
Guitar players love to get worshiped,
just like gurus do.
Curtis wrote:
I wouldn't know anything about that.
My bar is set a bit lower at no beer
bottles thrown during the set.
You're probably already famous - you'll
have to deal with being worshipped as
a God - people will bow down
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guitar players love to get worshiped,
just like gurus do.
Curtis wrote:
I wouldn't know anything about that.
My bar is set a bit lower at no beer
bottles thrown during the set.
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