Per the comments on perceiving the finest Relative, aka GC, I
personally think one of the purposes of such experience is to:
1. Confound the small ego by providing it with an unfathomable
experience, leading it astray from the comfort of boundaries, and
2: At the same time ensnare the heart
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The danger is that along the way one starts to lose the purity side
of the teaching and just stays with the rituals, hence losing the
purity of the knowledge.
Brahman, G-D, infinity has no shape or form and rituals
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respectfully.
Perhaps you mean to say here, disrespectfully.
Let's be honest, please.
you have decided
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Anon, I have no intentention of twisting your words.
You admonish someone for doing something that has
nothing to do with you all under the heading of
purity of the teaching. This seed is the start of
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Or rub ghee on my poor pitta head!
Gotta keep that Shivalingam well-oiled, hey, Peter? Upon this Rock
will I build my church :-)
on 4/17/05 8:42 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anon, I have no intentention of twisting your words.
You admonish someone for doing something that has
nothing to do with you all under the heading of
purity of the teaching. This seed is the start of
spiritual fascism. If idol
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I'm not so sure I'm sharing anyone's enlightenment
just yet, nor
benjamincollins nor his daughters, the opposite
might have a
valid case here.
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The danger is that along the way one starts to lose the purity side
of the teaching and just stays with the rituals, hence losing the
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
big snip
That said, I find his tone and style relatively
mild, polite and seems
to acknowledge other POVs.
To be honest, while I do like you and your posts a
lot, sometimes you
use a tone and style that appears quite emphatic,
absolutist,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am Kansas City. Peter Is London.
Everything's up-to-date in Kansas City;
They've gone about as far as they can go, yes sir!
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Everything's up-to-date in Kansas City;
They've gone about as far as they can go,
They went and built a skyscraper seven stories high
About as high as a buildin' oughta grow!
So are those seven stories sleep, dream,
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree with what you stated, it is very important. As for my
understanding to just follow my instincts per se could lead to
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Everything's up-to-date in Kansas City;
They've gone about as far as they can go,
They went and built a skyscraper seven stories high
About as high as a buildin'
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The danger is that along the way one starts to lose the purity
side
of the teaching and just stays with the rituals, hence losing the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
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snip
How do you defend against this. Anyone,
teaching, or branch that you don't agree with can conveniently be
labeled
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 4/17/05 8:42 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anon, I have no intentention of twisting your words.
You admonish someone for doing something that has
nothing to do with you all under the heading
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snip
How do you defend against this. Anyone,
teaching, or branch
on 4/17/05 8:35 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
god-consciousness ? how so?
I think rituals are 95% empty.
Depends on who's doing them, don't you think?
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on 4/17/05 8:35 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
god-consciousness ? how so?
I think rituals are 95% empty.
Depends on who's doing them, don't you think?
Since Einstein, Relativity I very much think
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
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Just storieslots and lots of stories.
I suspect you, I, *and* akasha could probably agree on this one :-)
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Absolutely true that seeing or appreciating yagyas and rituals as
outside the Self will tend (at best) to be an expression of god-
consciousness, not Brahman.
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Thank you, Ben, great story and very uplifting.
The sentiments you expressed matched many of mine.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
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I taught my
Oops hit the wrong button earlier...
Anyway, this is a great event benjamincollins! To be able to bring
another soul along the speedy path to enlightenment is a blessed
event IMO.
The broken heart thing also strikes a chord...It shows me how
powerful our mantras are, that they could purify
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Anyway, this is a great event benjamincollins! To be able to bring
another soul along the speedy path to enlightenment is a blessed
event IMO.
I'm not so sure I'm sharing anyone's enlightenment just yet, nor
Hi,
It depends on how the idols are appreciated. If it is a lively
appreciation, which it sounds to be, then OK!
In my opinion it is right to question everything in the context of
Reality. However there is always a question posed when we appear to
question that which is outside ourselves,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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By bringing all these idols into his house it looks to me
that benjamin collins is going astray from the pure path.
snip
There is no need to adopt any Hindu idol-worshipping-rituals;
the opposite is truth.
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By bringing all these idols into his house it looks to me
that benjamin collins is going astray from the pure path.
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But, there
is no uncertainty that you feel the opinion rendered is the final
word regarding spiritual development.
I already related to that, see above.
lurk
Okay, I can handle difference of
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snip
I'm not so sure I'm sharing anyone's enlightenment
just yet, nor
benjamincollins nor his daughters, the opposite
might have a
valid case here.
By bringing all these idols into his house it looks
to me
that benjamin collins is going
On Apr 16, 2005, at 7:23 PM, anonymousff wrote:
There is no need to adopt any Hindu idol-worshipping-rituals;
the opposite is truth. Guru Dev and MMY stated that the pure
knowledge is lost and what left are only empty rituals.
It could be the case that our friend is doing both
the pure
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wrote:
snip
But, there
is no uncertainty that you feel the opinion rendered is the
final
word regarding spiritual development.
I already related to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
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Hey...who you callin' unhealthy.
My kids love the puja room and go in there to read or do home work
because they find it peaceful. Scary? How do you get that? the
Ganesha is big and fat and
Thank you, Ben, great story and very uplifting.
The sentiments you expressed matched many of mine.
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I taught my daughter to meditate
My daughter is 10. She is tall and blonde and has bright eyes and
a
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I don't mind hearing about other peoples' kids when it
sounds healthy. Not too sure, though, about making kids
live with 2 elaborate altars with a 3 foot stone Ganesha
and a 4 foot Durga along with Vishnu, Lakshmi
: [FairfieldLife] Re: I taught my
daughter to meditate- a short story
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]...wrote: I don't
mind hearing about other peoples' kids when it sounds healthy. Not too
sure, though, about making kids live with "2 elaborate a
in the world was money, and then I would have fallen from the
path and become a thug.
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Sunshine
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:49
AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I taught
my daughter to meditate
Hey...who you callin' unhealthy.
My kids love the puja room and go in there to read or do home work
because they find it peaceful. Scary? How do you get that? the
Ganesha is big and fat and friendly looking. The Durga is an antique
from a temple, carved out of mango wood. The paint is
Really sounds lovely, and I bet your kids do love it in there!
Jim
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
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Hey...who you callin' unhealthy.
My kids love the puja room and go in there to read or do home work
because they find it peaceful.
I have a 5 foot dancing Ganesh in our house - kids think it's pretty cool.
But we don't do elaborate pujas to it - just a simple Jai Ganesh song every
morning to greet the day in a thankful way. Kids just ignore that part of
it.
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snsnip
My kids all know that I meditate, and that I do pujas, and go to the
Hindu Temple. There are lots of Ganeshas in my home and it is all
part of their world. But I have never pushed it on them. We
Hey, I knew there was a risk publishing this story on FFL! I probably
deserve the slings and arrows. But I think that the experience of
initiating was worthwhile. It is the one true thing that remains
unaffected by all the TMO crap.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
P.S. I've
got three young kids of my own. Maybe that's why the last thing I want
hear is about other little kidslurk---Wow Man, I've heard it all. I thought it was really a fine
story and great. I've encountered every single viepoint here at this group on
everything. You're a fine and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
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Hey, I knew there was a risk publishing this story on FFL! I probably
deserve the slings and arrows. But I think that the experience of
initiating was worthwhile. It is the one true thing that remains
I thoroughly enjoyed your story. The fact that lurkermore apparently has
a less-than-fulfilling relationship with his kids isn't your problem. I have
kids as well and really enjoy hearing other parents tell their stories - pass-
ing your wisdom to your kids is a way of gaining
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I thoroughly enjoyed your story. The fact that lurkermore
apparently has
a less-than-fulfilling relationship with his kids isn't your
problem.
You know, you can go on a perfectly wonderful vacation. Really enjoy
No, no wife any more. She is pretty tolerant (from a distance) but
thinks I am 1 step away from Hare Krishna craziness and dancing in the
airports. The kids like it though and sometimes pick flowers to do
Ganesha pujas.
When we were married I had a puja altar and did pujas a lot. But all
is going to eat ice cream all week even if it kills
him.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:10
PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I taught my
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I thoroughly enjoyed
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