gt; So Spare egg, What's next.??
>
> The past 50 years was a " Warm Up ".!
>
> Now the Match begins.?? Who is the Umpire.??
>
> On your butts. Ready. Bounce.
>
> sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 06 D
The past 50 years was a " Warm Up ".!
Now the Match begins.?? Who is the Umpire.??
On your butts. Ready. Bounce.
sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:05:28 -0000
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design: The Clincher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bwahaha, scientific humour. How droll.
And none-too-bright, either. For all we know, the Infitinitely Intelligent
Designer came up
with Large BLue simply to test the faith of the author of the essaym and
conceived
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/opinion/28dennett.html
"Is "intelligent design" a legitimate school of scientific thought?
Is there something to it, or have these people been taken in by one
of the most ingenious hoaxes in the history of science? Wouldn't
such a hoax be impossible? No. Here's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > The truth is every bit as much "out there" as it is "
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
<
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > This goes to the Shrodinger cat thought experiment. ie. "Is the cat
> > in the box dead or alive if no-one else sees it. It
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > The truth is every bit as much "out there" as it is "in here."
>
> Is it? How do you know? (channelling Sparaig)
>
> :-)
I watch public
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_
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> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't have any particular affection for
> > >
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I didn't get any sense of a *personal*
> > consciousness, i.e., like that of a person.
> > "Action" for the sun is basically nucle
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > I don't have any particular affection for
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
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> > > > By what logic can you say the sun
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> > I don't have any particular affection for
> > Schroedinger's cat. I'd be delighted if someone
> > could show it was a fallacy. I'd b
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I didn't get any sense of a *personal*
> consciousness, i.e., like that of a person.
> "Action" for the sun is basically nuclear
> processes on a gigantic scale and the consequent
> release of huge amounts of energy;
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> > I don't have any particular affection for
> > Schroedinger's cat. I'd be delighted if someone
> > could show it was a fallacy. I'd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't have any particular affection for
> Schroedinger's cat. I'd be delighted if someone
> could show it was a fallacy. I'd be thrilled if
> celestial bodies could be shown to have
> consciousness. I had a revela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > By what logic can you say the sun is not a conscious being?
> >
> > Where did I say it wasn't?? I said--see above--that
>
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>
> --- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > By what logic can you say the sun is not a conscious
> > being?
>
> What! Because it doesn't have characteristics we
> usually associate with consciousne
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
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> > > > > I don't have any particular aff
--- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> By what logic can you say the sun is not a conscious
> being?
What! Because it doesn't have characteristics we
usually associate with consciousness, for starters.
Off, with all due respect, your thinking is kinda
loose at the edges!
>
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > > I don't have any particular affection for
> > > > Schroedinger's cat. I'd be delighted if someone
> > > > could show it w
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > This goes to the Shrodinger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
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> > > Last I heard, the answers weren't so much "out there," as "in
> > here">>
> >
> > WHOA ! Rory, now that is one of the coo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Last I heard, the answers weren't so much "out there," as "in
> here">>
>
> WHOA ! Rory, now that is one of the coolest lines I have heard in
> ages !
> Even Dolly Parton would look cool sayin' that in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > On 9/29/05 5:28 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 9/29/05 5:28 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > >>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "auth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_be
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "spara
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Off:
> > Evolution exhibits order, direction. Order and direction are
> > intelligence.
>
> I am not so sure. If you look at the US presidents, from the
founding
> fathers to the present, it looks to me like Darwin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Off:
> > > Evolution exhibits order, direction. Order and direction are
> > > intelligence.
> >
> > I am not so sure. If you look
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_wo
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "spara
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 9/29/05 5:28 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> G
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Off:
> > Evolution exhibits order, direction. Order and direction are
> > intelligence.
>
> I am not so sure. If you look at the US presidents, from the founding
> fathers to the present, it looks to me like Darwin got
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > The "goal" is inherent in the system.>>.
>
Off:
> Evolution exhibits order, direction. Order and direction are
> intelligence.
I am not so sure. If you look at the US presidents, from the founding
fathers to the present, it looks to me like Darwin got it exactly
backwards.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
[...]
> > I'm not sure Darwinists would agree that survival
> > of the fittest could be characterized as a goal.
> > That the fitte
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "off_world_beings"
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparai
Well you might want to reread my own statements at the top of the original
post and the corresponding one on a.m.t then...
On 9/29/05 6:17 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 9/29/05 5:28 PM, "authfriend" <[
On 9/29/05 6:16 PM, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/29/05 5:38 PM, "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
> Hari Om,
>If Order has purpose then, Chaos has no purpose.??
Hydrogen molecules inside the Sun are in a chaotic st
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 9/29/05 5:28 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Gods are pompous, humorless, and some, like
> >> Allah, are clearly unfit for civili
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/29/05 5:38 PM, "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
ne evolution, without calling it chaos. It has a direction.
OffWorld
From: "bbrigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:47:29 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (Was: What would happen if Hagelin...)
To me, intelligent design theory is comple
On 9/29/05 5:38 PM, "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>> Great stuff. I particularly liked:
>>>
They're frequently very di
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/29/05 5:28 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Gods are pompous, humorless, and some, like
> >> Allah, are clearly unfit for civilized
On 9/29/05 5:28 PM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Gods are pompous, humorless, and some, like
>> Allah, are clearly unfit for civilized societies.
>
> Mmm, this is a nice one, Vaj. Do you endorse this
> assert
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Great stuff. I particularly liked:
> >
> > > They're frequently very difficult customers and if one wouldn't
> > > want bearers of such q
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great stuff. I particularly liked:
>
> > They're frequently very difficult customers and if one wouldn't
> > want bearers of such qualities as our neighbors, it would be
> > unwise to take them as gods.
And he's a Da
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gods are pompous, humorless, and some, like
> Allah, are clearly unfit for civilized societies.
Mmm, this is a nice one, Vaj. Do you endorse this
assertion?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> > When asked whether evolution or creationism was true, M.
said "Both
> are".
>
> If you really look into the creationists you
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups
Great stuff. I particularly liked:
> They're frequently very difficult customers and if one wouldn't
> want bearers of such qualities as our neighbors, it would be
> unwise to take them as gods.
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On 9/29/05 5:01 PM, "off_world_beings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In my opinion you joined to completely unrelated ideas together
> here: intelligence and 'God'. This is the irrational leap that all
> the anti-intelligent design scientists make. Intelligent universe
> does not imply the commo
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > The word 'evolution' does NOT imply 'purpo
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c
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> > > The "goal" is inherent in the system.>>.
>
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> > Bob,
> > > To me, intelligent design theory is completely inadequate and
> > > unexplanatory and not as comprehensive as what MMY said.
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > When asked whether evolution or creatio
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> > When asked whether evolution or creationism was true, M.
said "Both
> are".
>
> If you really look into the creationists you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When asked whether evolution or creationism was true, M. said "Both
are".
If you really look into the creationists you find they have 3 main
problems with evolution:
1. E appears to invalidate certain statements of s
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> Bob,
> > To me, intelligent design theory is completely inadequate and
> > unexplanatory and not as comprehensive as what MMY said. I think
> > it's necessary to distinguish between reacting to behavior,
which is
>
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Bob,
> To me, intelligent design theory is completely inadequate and
> unexplanatory and not as comprehensive as what MMY said. I think
> it's necessary to distinguish between reacting to behavior, which is
> what God does, and controlling everything, which intelligent design
> theorists seem
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> > > What would happen if Hagelin seriou
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> >
> > Is the operating system on your computer intelligent?
> >
> > (You don't have to answer that if you're using WinXP.)
> >
> > Seriously, I work in AI. A system *can* be intelligent,
> > but that doesn't mean eith
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> > The word 'evolution' does NOT imply 'purpose.'
> >
> > The sentient beings of the universe, as far as I can
> > tell, are all ev
>
> Is the operating system on your computer intelligent?
>
> (You don't have to answer that if you're using WinXP.)
>
> Seriously, I work in AI. A system *can* be intelligent,
> but that doesn't mean either that it has a preprogrammed
> purpose or that it's sentient. Neural nets learn, and
>
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> > The "goal" is inherent in the system.>>.
>
> 'System' means 'intelligence'.
Aieee, no. It can be used that way, but it can
also b
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> > > The "goal" is inherent in the system.>>.
>
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> > The "goal" is inherent in the system.>>.
>
> 'System' means 'intelligence'.
Is the operating system on your computer intellige
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From this week's New Yorker:
>
> INTELLIGENT DESIGN by PAUL RUDNICK Issue of 2005-09-26 Posted 2005-09-
19
Cool. The gods as Slartibartfast from the Hitchhiker's
Guide to the Galaxy. :-)
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