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On 3/25/2014 7:48 PM, Share Long wrote: > Richard, your family has FIVE generations alive! > Got married to my first wife when I was twenty - two children, 1967-8. Go figure. Santa Rosa, CA: nice place to visit - let me know when it's finished! Wow! I can buy a home in Santa Rosa - median famil

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Richard, your family has FIVE generations alive! That's inspiring. Good luck to your Dad. Has he seen his great great grand children? On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:43 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:   On 3/25/2014 11:08 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Just a waking state husband and wif

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

On 3/25/2014 11:08 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Just a waking state husband and wife, and 20 year old whose coming off the rails to some extent. > You just wait, Steve, until you get some grand children to look after, then you'll be in a waking state! Mine are all grown up now, but it was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Excellent, detailed, partly speculative chronology of Flight 370, focusing on the possibility of a mechanical problem: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/opinion/abend-explaining-flight-370 http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/opinion/abend-explaining-flight-370/

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On 3/25/2014 6:45 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I guess they are saying that now, the flight path, and altitude changes indicate that the pilots were trying to get to safety. But as you say, where was the "Mayday" call, which would have only taken a moment. > According to what I've read,

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You are so funny Jim. At least in a weird kind of way. No, pretty much business as usual here. Just a waking state husband and wife, and 20 year old whose coming off the rails to some extent. But marriage wise, it's all good. How about you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote

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Are you sure your wife didn't kick you out of the house, for disagreeing with her? lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hey Judy, at this point, I think we have to give first place to Jim. After all, he did say that satellite data would be instrumental in finding the plane. N

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If the communications equipment was working. Plus which, the pilot's mantra is "aviate, navigate, communicate"--in that order. In a really desperate situation, the first two may take all the pilots' attention. Oh, okay. I missed that guess. I guess they are saying that now, the fligh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Oh, okay. I missed that guess. I guess they are saying that now, the flight path, and altitude changes indicate that the pilots were trying to get to safety. But as you say, where was the "Mayday" call, which would have only taken a moment. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

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Steve, acknowledging your investigative skills, I just realized how appropriate that Judy calls you Feebs, a nickname for the FBI. Go figure! On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:11 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Hey Judy, at this point, I think we have to give first place to Jim.  After

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

On 3/24/2014 9:23 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't believe a technical malfunction is likely. How can a malfunction shut off the transponder, make the plane climb to 45,000 feet and set the controls to head towards the Indian Ocean? and heading back. > It could be that smoke filled the pil

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On 3/24/2014 9:11 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: But, but, but, second place finish definitely goes to you, who stated there was some serious malfunction, lithium batteries I believe. > It might be a good time to point out, Steve, that it was probably the Punditster that was the first pers

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On 3/24/2014 8:48 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *You do know that the thinking among experts is now leaning strongly toward a serious technical malfunction aboard the plane that incapacitated both pilots, right?* Not sure how an incapacitated pilot or co-pilot could turn off the transpond

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Oh, okay, I guess you followed the satellite part better than I did. I thought he left it pretty open as to what role the satellites would play. But it would seem to me the satellites must have had some data as the plane was moving in order to determine where it landed, unless you mean they ha

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Well, actually, Feebs, he thought satellites would be able to see the plane in the air. Satellite data, on the other hand, as in identifying pings from the plane, we knew about pretty much from the beginning. And, um, they haven't found the plane yet and may never find it. All the satellite d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

The idea is that the pilots changed the flight plan to head for the nearest airport when the malfunction took place (which was presumably what took out the transponder). It's not clear that they did climb to 45,000 feet, BTW. It turns out that radar can't gauge altitude that well. In fact, the l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Judy, I don't believe a technical malfunction is likely. How can a malfunction shut off the transponder, make the plane climb to 45,000 feet and set the controls to head towards the Indian Ocean? IMO, the co-pilot killed the captain of the airplane. He made the plane climb to a very hi

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Hey Judy, at this point, I think we have to give first place to Jim. After all, he did say that satellite data would be instrumental in finding the plane. Now evidently it was a little different than that technicalese that he offered up, but I'm giving that first place finish nonetheless. B

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You do know that the thinking among experts is now leaning strongly toward a serious technical malfunction aboard the plane that incapacitated both pilots, right? We have derive who the culprit is by elimination. It couldn't be the passengers or the attendant staff because they're locked out

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

On 3/24/2014 5:08 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: We have derive who the culprit is by elimination. It couldn't be the passengers or the attendant staff because they're locked out of the cockpit and more likely they can't fly the airplane. It couldn't be the pilot because he's an atheist, who I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

No no no! Islam is the religion of peace. They can't do that! Maybe it's the religion of piece, little bitty pieces, like blown to smithereens type pieces. On Monday, March 24, 2014 3:08 PM, "jr_...@yahoo.com" wrote:   We have derive who the culprit is by elimination.  It couldn't be the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

We have derive who the culprit is by elimination. It couldn't be the passengers or the attendant staff because they're locked out of the cockpit and more likely they can't fly the airplane. It couldn't be the pilot because he's an atheist, who IMO would rather live than die for a cause. That

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

We just can't understand how a plane could fly for seven hours with no communications. So, we are back to square one: why and how did the transponder get shut off? Go figure. "Investigators are still trying to determine what happened to the plane after it took off around midnight from Kuala Lumpur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

It's probably in some remote hangar being repainted, maybe with El Al logos. On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:34 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:   "The moment the jet veered westwards was at the point of handover, according to the leaked document - when it could have been invisible to ground

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"The moment the jet veered westwards was at the point of handover, according to the leaked document - when it could have been invisible to ground control, making the timing perfect for hijack." Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/The-transcript-final-54-minutes/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

My prediction is that this is going to be HUGE when we find out the mystery. Until then, what we have is a lost Boeing 777. That's already huge, and it may get a lot bigger in the next few days.Something has got to break with millions of people looking for any trace of the plane. "It seems to be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

r_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 21, 2014, 9:09 PM MJ, In jyotish, a prashna chart indic

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Rick, A former pilot stated in the news that this maneuver can kill the passengers in a few minutes. Perhaps, its possible for the pilot to depressurize the passenger cabin and not the pilot cabin. And, it could also be possible to turn off the oxygen that are normally available coming fro

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Is this generally done by itself or is it done in conjunction with one's birth chart and/or the progression chart for that year? On Fri, 3/21/14, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes To: Fairfiel

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. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Please forgive my ignorance but what is a prahsna chart? On Fri, 3/21/14, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes To: FairfieldL

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Why would going to 45,000 feet kill the passengers? Wouldn’t the plane still be pressurized and have oxygen? And if insufficient Oxygen, wouldn’t the masks drop down? And if it did kill the passengers, wouldn’t it also kill the pilots?

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Fri, 3/21/14, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 21, 2014, 8:07 PM I casted a pras

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You mean the chart tells you all this? Or are some of the details gleaned from news reports about the co-pilot? On Fri, 3/21/14, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday

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Please forgive my ignorance but what is a prahsna chart? On Fri, 3/21/14, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 21, 2014, 8:07 PM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

I casted a prashna chart a few days ago asking the question, "did the Malaysian plane crash?" It took me a while to interpret the chart until I found the likely scenario about this mysterious case. The chart revealed that the plane crashed indeed. The likely culprit is the co-pilot, who app

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

This is my guess now too--a fire from the lithium batteries. "This scenario begins with the eruption of hazardous materials within the cargo hold – either improperly packaged or illegally shipped – or both. It is thought the missing plane climbed to 45,000ft - a move Mr Vincent believes may h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

"This scenario begins with the eruption of hazardous materials within the cargo hold – either improperly packaged or illegally shipped – or both. It is thought the missing plane climbed to 45,000ft - a move Mr Vincent believes may have resulted from the pilots not being able to see the controls

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

A few days ago, a caller to a radio talk show mentioned that he was a frequent flyer. And he has two artificial hips. Every airport he'd flown from his hips have set off the alarm on the screening devices - that is every airport he's flown from *except* Kuala Lumpur - which he'd used twice. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

It appears that you're mistaken, John, at least according to the folks who are in a position to know how much fuel the plane had. Judy, It doesn't appear the plane has enough fuel to reach Kyrgyzstan or Iran for that matter, unless it landed and refueled in India or western China. None

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Judy, It doesn't appear the plane has enough fuel to reach Kyrgyzstan or Iran for that matter, unless it landed and refueled in India or western China. Nonetheless, it appears likely that the plane was hijacked and diverted into a new destination by people on board, perhaps including a passe

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On 3/15/2014 9:31 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: > Some retired US general also speculated that there is a remote > possibility that it could be on land in Iran. > Thanks, Mike. There are several other theories about the vanishing jet plane: The passengers could still be alive! Maybe Iranians skyjacked

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Bends spoons, finds riches, I wonder if he could remove a small dent from my car, using a remote mallet? I'll check later - my intent should have reached him by now... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Not too far from the truth. Uri Gellar now makes a living finding oil, gas a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Re this ability to access others' YouTube pages - history/favourites/likes/etc. - is it possible to put a block on one's own YouTube page? It's creepy thinking that anyone anywhere can follow your deviant desires, crackpot theories, political affiliations and vulgar tastes. I'm not asking for pr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

The pilot's own YouTube pages has links to his favourites. He's a big fan of Richard Dawkins's The God Delusion and subscribed to Richard Dawkins Foundation for Science and Reason. And he approves of "Atheist Michael Newdow Intellectually Demolishes Arrogant Moron on Fox News". He was tickled

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Some retired US general also speculated that there is a remote possibility that it could be on land in Iran. Could be loaded up with explosives or even a nuke and delivered to Israel in the future. Who knows? On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:10 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Latest fr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Not too far from the truth. Uri Gellar now makes a living finding oil, gas and other minerals for mining companies. He does this by waving a pendulum over a map. We only have his aggrandised version of events to gauge his success - if that's even what he does at all - but I'm guessing 50/50. H

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Latest from Malaysian officials is the assumption that the plane was deliberately diverted by people on board. And then there's this: "Early this morning BBC reporter Jonah Fisher tweeted, 'Being briefed by Malaysia officials they believe most likely location for MH370 is on land somewher

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Given this turn of events, once he mastered bending spoons, he possibly then created a side business, finding missing silverware, for others -- "Hmm...the dinner fork is beneath the sideboard...or the sofa...or upstairs, somewhere. That will be $20, far less than the cost of replacement..."

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Good to see Uri hasn't lost his talent for self promotion, as it's the only talent he ever had. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Psychic spoon-bender Uri Geller today revealed he has been asked to help find the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft. http://tinyurl.com/o3tfd62 http

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

Psychic spoon-bender Uri Geller today revealed he has been asked to help find the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft. http://tinyurl.com/o3tfd62 http://tinyurl.com/o3tfd62

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

If the Boeing 777 simulator the pilot played with at home has a "history" record I'd want to check if he'd been sampling the Kamikaze Death Dive program in recent weeks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : My wife is on record saying that the plane landed in Pakistan or North Korea

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On 3/14/2014 3:06 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: You mean, "So, if this theory is correct, it was an act of piracy," right? > Reuters - Military radar data suggests a Malaysia Airlines jetliner missing for nearly a week was deliberately flown hundreds of miles off course, heightening suspicio

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

You mean, "So, if this theory is correct, it was an act of piracy," right? There's still a bunch of different theories. Don't jump the gun. One new theory states that the plane actually landed somewhere. So, it was an act of piracy. But if the intent was to sell the plane to another compa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

One new theory states that the plane actually landed somewhere. So, it was an act of piracy. But if the intent was to sell the plane to another company. Who would buy it? http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/one-u-s-theory-planes-disappearance-act-piracy-n52941 http://www.nbcnews

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

My wife is on record saying that the plane landed in Pakistan or North Korea. It was commandeered by terrorists, the passengers gassed, and this is the new terrorism threat. I am leaning towards pilot suicide, and that a break will come from examining phone records of passengers, where they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jet Vanishes

I notice that the pilot Shah was described as an aviation geek. Shah had a Boeing 77 simulator at his home(!) in Kuala Lumpur. “We used to tease him. We would ask him, why are you bringing your work home,” said a friend. Shah also collected remote-controlled, miniature aircraft! That sugges

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The Wall St. Journal reporter who broke the story on the engine communications has an explanation for the Malaysian officials' denial. You'll have to listen to the story--it's about 6 minutes--to hear exactly what he says, but basically it's that the denial was very narrow and doesn't exhaust th

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

On 3/13/2014 5:38 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: > What a mystery. > The pilot or co-pilot could have turned off the transponder and then turned the plane in a different direction and flew for another four-five hours and hundreds of miles at 500 MPH toward the Indian Ocean. My bet at t

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I also read an article, stating that Malaysian airlines had declined to participate in the voluntary engine info program, that you mention. I don't know if that means they just don't get a performance report, or something more. What a mystery. Reminds me of Payne Stewart's crash - loss of oxygen

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Most experts now (from what I've been reading) seem to be pretty sure the transponder was turned off deliberately. By whom, of course, is the question. But there seems to be fairly solid evidence emerging that the plane was functioning normally for a good four hours after the transponder signa

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

The transponder may have been turned off by the pilot or the co-pilot. As far as why, you'll have to wait until after I talk to Dad tonight - he was a pilot in the USAF and is keeping with this via all his AF connections. There was a rumor yesterday saying the plane landed somewhere - that's why th

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

I am geeky enough to look that up -- Looks like a power interruption to the transponder itself, would do it. Also, if Richard's theory holds, lack of oxygen can get people doing odd things, including manually turning off the transponder. In other words, no clue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup

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Richard, why would the transponder be turned off deliberately if the plane was in trouble?! On Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:59 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:   On 3/13/2014 8:52 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Why did the transponder stop transmitting? > That's in my next theory: The tran

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

On 3/13/2014 8:52 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Why did the transponder stop transmitting?* > That's in my next theory: The transponder was deliberately turned off. My bet is still on the aircraft's possible sudden, rapid depressurization theory. If the pilots failed to put on masks th

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Why did the transponder stop transmitting? My bet is still on the aircraft's possible sudden, rapid depressurization theory. If the pilots failed to put on masks they could have blacked out from the lack of oxygen. So, this theory goes like this: the sudden decompression of the plane for u

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

"There is nothing." My bet is still on the aircraft's possible sudden, rapid depressurization theory. If the pilots failed to put on masks they could have blacked out from the lack of oxygen. So, this theory goes like this: the sudden decompression of the plane for unknown reasons, but it could ha

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

Balotelli, not "Bartoli." According to AP, the official mentioned Balotelli not as one of the passengers with the stolen passports, but rather as a way of conveying to a reporter that one of the guys with the stolen passports was black, like Balotelli. You said, "If the investigation fails,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

Judy, A report stated that a Malaysian official identified the name of the person who boarded the plane with a stolen passport. His name was Mario Bartoli, a black Italian soccer player. A bit of a twist there for the curious!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

Oh, my goodness. They tested the oil slick, and it turns out it isn't from jet fuel after all. So now they really have no idea where that plane might have gone down. No matter how fast it went down, it would have disintegrated when it hit the water, and there'd still be debris; it would ju

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

What?? Or, if the investigation fails, blame a guy named Mario Bartoli, who happens to be black, Italian and a soccer player.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

Or, if the investigation fails, blame a guy named Mario Bartoli, who happens to be black, Italian and a soccer player.

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Maybe it disappeared into the Asian Triangle. On 03/10/2014 12:20 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Something doesn't smell right with this incident. It's also possible a passenger had exploded a bomb up there and then the plane disintegrated. That's why fragments of the airplane could not be fou

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

As Ann said, there would still be scattered debris and body parts that would remain on or float up to the surface. With regard to a crashed plane, "disintegrate" doesn't mean into its constituent atoms. Something doesn't smell right with this incident. It's also possible a passenger had e

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On 3/10/2014 8:34 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Something doesn't smell right with this incident. It's also possible a passenger had exploded a bomb up there and then the plane disintegrated. That's why fragments of the airplane could not be found. There would still be scattered debris

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

On 3/10/2014 8:53 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *No matter how fast it went down, it would have disintegrated when it hit the water, and there'd still be debris; it would just be concentrated in a much smaller area. There surely /is/ a debris field, scattered or otherwise. They just haven't f

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

No matter how fast it went down, it would have disintegrated when it hit the water, and there'd still be debris; it would just be concentrated in a much smaller area. There surely is a debris field, scattered or otherwise. They just haven't found it yet. But if it had exploded, or even just

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

It's just occurring to you now that something "doesn't smell right with this incident"?? Something doesn't smell right with this incident. It's also possible a passenger had exploded a bomb up there and then the plane disintegrated. That's why fragments of the airplane could not be found

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Something doesn't smell right with this incident. It's also possible a passenger had exploded a bomb up there and then the plane disintegrated. That's why fragments of the airplane could not be found. There would still be scattered debris

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

But if it had exploded, or even just broken apart, in mid air there would be debris all over the place. All they can see is an oil slick. It must have gone down fast. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Something doesn't smell right with this incident. It's also possible a passen

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

Something doesn't smell right with this incident. It's also possible a passenger had exploded a bomb up there and then the plane disintegrated. That's why fragments of the airplane could not be found. I find it unlikely the plane could break up to pieces just by itself during the flight.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

They're now saying there were four passengers who may have been using stolen passports. Security experts have said passengers using stolen passports aren't unusual, but it's very rare for there to be more than one such passenger per flight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Two o

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

No "research" needed. It's the lead story in the NYTimes today. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html?hp Judy, That's good research on your part to get some details on this gha

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

Judy, That's good research on your part to get some details on this ghastly incident. Stay tuned for the next revelations.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Jet Vanishes

Two of the people listed on the passenger manifest were apparently not who their passports said they were. The names on the passports were those of two men who had reported their passports stolen, and neither man was on the plane. If the plane did go down where the oil slick was just found, it