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> > ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is?
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> Haven't you been paying attention? The evidence is
> th
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> on 12/26/05 10:01 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
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> >> ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate
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> > ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is?
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> Haven't you been paying attention? The evidence is
>
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> > ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is?
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> Haven't you been paying attention? The evidence is
> th
What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do not
know if they was or not. I only heard rumours.
Ingegerd
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> > Par for the course during that time. Why do you think it was so easy
> > to pay off the Spanish officials? It was the common thing to do.
>
> Pr
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> > on 12/26/05 7:35 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > >> Prez Carter (he of the faith-healing sister who was hi
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> > > on 12/26/05 12:30 PM, shempmcgurk
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > And we all know the story of Leon Weiner actually getting
busted
> > > trying to
> > > carry cash from Mallorca to Switzerland. An
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> What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do not
> know if they was or not. I only heard rumours.
> Ingegerd
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>
Almost certainly they were.
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> > > ...and the evidence that the CI
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> > > > paying off
> > > > the Spanish officials to get him out.
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> > > Par for the course during that time. Why do you think it
> >
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> > > > > paying off
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> > > > > paying off
> > > > > the Spanish official
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> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"
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> > > What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in
> > the TMO. I do not
> > >
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> > Just to clarify, this isn't a statement about you per se
> > but about the nature of ethics. IMO, unethical behavior
> > is almost *d
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Er,nope. It just means that its futile to single out a single
> organization or person for criticism when everyone else is doing it
> too.
You really *don't* understand the concept of ethics,
do you? :-)
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> > > Just to clarify, this isn't a statement about
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> > > Just to clarify, this isn't a statement about
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> > Er,nope. It just means that its futile to single out a single
> > organization or person for criticism when everyone else is doing it
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> > Er,nope. It just means that its futile to single out a single
> > organization or person for criticism when everyone else is doing it
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> on 12/26/05 7:35 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >> Prez Carter (he of the faith-healing sister who was himself an
> >> evangelical Christian: http://www.alternet.org/story/18378/ ) was
> >> clearly an
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> > What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do not
> > know if they was or not. I only heard rumours.
> > Ingegerd
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> > > What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they wer
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> > > How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered with
> > > our little spiritual group...I guess we must have been on to
> > > something SO earth-shattering that these organisations took an
> > > interest in us.
> >
> > Yup. That's exactly my take on all this as well. The
> > c
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> > > > How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered
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> > > > our little spiritual group...I guess we must have been on to
> > > > something SO earth-shattering that these organisations took
an
> >
> > > Except that, as I noted a few posts back, in the early
> > > '70s virtually everyone who didn't explicitly align
> > > themselves with the U.S. government suspected they were
> > > being spied on by the CIA.
> >
> > "Virtually everyone?" You have a strange memory.
> > I lived through those
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> > > > > How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered
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> > > > Except that, as I noted a few posts back, in the early
> > > > '70s virtually everyone who didn't explicitly align
> > > > themselves with the U.S. government suspected they were
> > > > being spied on by the CI
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> > > on 12/26/05 7:35 PM, shempmcgurk at
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> > > What about KGB. Did MMY accept that th
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> I'm sure they took a hard look at the TMO, chuckled,
> filed some reports, and then moved on.
If there was ever any truth in the CIA interest in
TM, I'm sure that description pretty much covers it.
However, I would change
On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:01 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:Can't see a lot of use in such a list. Does anyone use such a checklist to choose a teacher? Isn't the search for a teacher of knowledge kind of like ice cream; when we want it we focus on the sweetness and when we don't we focus on the calorie
On Dec 21, 2005, at 7:36 PM, braaahmaan wrote:Ok then.Its certainly not a mandatory thing. If its useful, fine, if not move on and go with whatever enlightenment proclaiming, thin-skinned, easily insulted, unaccountable, goal not practice teaching, hypocritical, plagarizing, neo-trandy-satsang-gi
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> On Dec 21, 2005, at 7:36 PM, braaahmaan wrote:
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> > Ok then.Its certainly not a mandatory thing. If
> its useful, fine, if
> > not move on and go with whatever enlightenment
> proclaiming,
> > thin-skinned, easily insulted, unaccountable, goal
> not prac
on 12/22/05 8:51 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Seems to me #s 2,3,6,13,14,15,16,17,20,21,23,24,25, and 26 apply.
> And I'm not even including the "outrageous titles" point, which MMY
> gives liberally to others but not himself,
He didn't object to being called "Maharishi," ma
on 12/22/05 10:00 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I can't figure out how anybody could reasonably justify
> applying the "opulence" criterion, for example.
Have you ever been in his private suite? Flown on the Movement's Boeing 707
(now sold), ridden in his Bentley?
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On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:51 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:Seems to me #s 2,3,6,13,14,15,16,17,20,21,23,24,25, and 26 apply. And I'm not even including the "outrageous titles" point, which MMY gives liberally to others but not himself, or the "questionable linneage" point, as the jyotir math shankar
On Dec 22, 2005, at 11:07 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/22/05 10:00 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't figure out how anybody could reasonably justify applying the "opulence" criterion, for example. Have you ever been in his private suite? Flown on the Movement's Boeing 707 (now s
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> > I can't figure out how anybody could reasonably
> justify
> > applying the "opulence" criterion, for example.
>
> Have you ever been in his private suite? Flown on
> the Movement's
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On Dec 22, 2005, at 11:24 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since basically what he "preaches" is Neoadvaita with a little Patanjali and Kashmir Shaivism mixed in as well as Dharma shastra, perhaps a clearer way to look at this one
I just realized that this whole discussion of a
"false" guru is nonsense. Of what purpose are all
these criteria? Are these to be used to select a guru?
No, not as they are written. They are simply an
attempt by a mind to position itself in relationship
to a narrative it likes regarding gurus. They
On Dec 22, 2005, at 11:42 AM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For #4, clearly M. gives an intro path and then talks on big "E" but never gives the full path, esp. regarding the finer techniques for realization, which are simply missing. Un
on 12/22/05 10:21 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Have you ever been in his private suite? Flown on
>> the Movement's Boeing 707
>> (now sold), ridden in his Bentley?
>
>
> Do you have proof, Mr. Archer? ;-)
Yes to the suite and the Bentley. Never rode in the jet, but I heard it wa
On Dec 22, 2005, at 12:39 PM, braaahmaan wrote:I think the shanks are honored that way. And the Dali Lama who is viewed as an incarnation of Buddha (yes?)No, he is an incarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama but his primary past life recall is of the life of the "Great Fifth" Dalai lama. He is consider
On Dec 22, 2005, at 6:01 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 22, 2005, at 12:39 PM, braaahmaan wrote: I think the shanks are honored that way. And the Dali Lama who is viewed as an incarnation of Buddha (yes?) No, he is an incar
on 12/22/05 7:10 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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>> on 12/22/05 10:21 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you ever been in his private suite? Flown on
the Movement's Boeing 707
On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:01 AM, bbrigante wrote:his generous service to the world. What service might that be?
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On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:01 AM, bbrigante wrote: his generous service to the world. What service might that be? Bob has a tendency to redefine words and concepts to match his preco
on 12/23/05 12:30 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Maharishi walked away from middle class life after he left college,
>> to live a simple life, sleeping on the ground outside Guru Dev's
>> door. After Gu
on 12/22/05 11:57 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Was the Bentley the one that I heard Vesey Crighton gave to MMY?
Didn't know Vesey gave it, but it could be.
>
> I had heard that he gave him either a Bentley or a Rolls...and I
> could never understand that (assuming the story to
On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:28 PM, feste37 wrote:How about, teaching TM around the world to many thousands of people and changing their lives for the better? If it were for free, that would be generous. I honestly doubt if he were so generous as you claim, he wouldn't be a billionaire nor have tim
On Dec 23, 2005, at 1:49 PM, authfriend wrote:I wonder how much was given to the Tsunami victims or the victims of 9/11 by him? No, you don't wonder at all. There are many charitable organizations and individuals that have given money to victims of the tsunami and 9/11 (and Katrina, and many
Judy,
How, exactly, will the amount of people practicing TM affect the number of tsunamis, (or anything else relating to them) seeing as how the cause of those are far beneath the ocean? Yes, I know the silliness the TMO tries to perpetrate on how "we" can affect natural disasters, but do you real
Yes, I am aware of the TMO dogma regarding "stress" in the atmosphere, as I said. That is why I am asking--do you really believe that stress, as defined in human terms, is what is responsible for natural disasters, things that have been going on, by all accounts, for millions of years, long before
I think for every natural disaster that strikes, we should set up giant loudspeakers and blast either Barry Manilow or Ozzy at full volume right above the offending ocean, or mountain, or whatever else has the nerve to unstress on us. That would teach em.
Same thing with anyone who gives as silly
This is not the case--but I honestly don't think you'll convince many people at all that if you give money to Mahesh or practice his McMeditation you're going to stop tsunamis.On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:19 PM, feste37 wrote:Generosity is the giving of your time and talents to help improve the lives of
On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:Ted Turner is another example. He paved the way for world-wide, instant news (while it currently has it excesses, overall it is a great development, IMO.) And he had given much of his fortune away. Over one billion I think to the UN. When we were
On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Are you implying they/he gave nothing? Not even a small amount? I'm sure many have died due to these faulty beliefs--really just extortion schemes. No, they died due to the disasters, as you know. No, I was referring specifically to people Mahe
On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote:
Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly
to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said,
with that person *advocating* what they are reporting
someone else said.
Yep. I know it's totally silly and almost unthinkable
OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply "reporting what some else has said" even though you state that it "seems as good an explanation as any" (Which begs the question, what other explanations for natural disasters have you read--I mean, other than DC Comics?)
> > >
Perish the thought. I loved em.
Sal
On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:36 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
Hey, don't go knocking DC comics now. It might upset the Sea Gods.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below,
On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:04 PM, authfriend wrote:
> OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply
> "reporting what some else has said" even though you state that it
> "seems as good an explanation as any" (Which begs the question,
> what other explanations for natural dis
On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:45 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
Damn. A response without insults or patronization etc. SAL! You don't
know how to play this game, do you?!!!
I guess not. Obviously, I'm tired. I think you got it all pinned down pretty well--insults, rude remarks, sarcasm...that's an astute
No, no Sal. That's why Mahesh and crew don't need to donate at such a gross level, they believe this. Judy's not sure what she believes. Or so her posts indicate.On Dec 23, 2005, at 8:36 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:04 PM, authfriend wrote: > OK, Judy, so you don't believe what
on 12/23/05 6:21 PM, matrixmonitor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ---Yeah but the Fundie's have won the battle (not the long term war).
> Since Carter's Presidency, the Fundies have more or less Shangheid the
> executive branch of government, with plenty of right-wing big brass
> Fundies (even goin
On Dec 23, 2005, at 10:06 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
Though, to be honest, I am not sure why neither of you thinks its wise
to be (or even pretend to be) the better person and say "ok, it get
the point you were making" and then bite your tongue -- not dwell on
phrasing -- which seems to be more
Yep, far better to give at the level of the "root," (ie to MMY) than at that gross level where they might actually help someone in need. And this is what passes for logic in the TMO.
Sal
On Dec 23, 2005, at 8:48 PM, Vaj wrote:
No, no Sal. That's why Mahesh and crew don't need to donate at such
On Dec 24, 2005, at 12:45 AM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 10:06 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Though, to be honest, I am not sure why neither of you thinks its wise to be (or even pretend to be) the better pe
On Dec 24, 2005, at 12:49 AM, authfriend wrote:Yes, Vaj has a great deal of trouble figuring out what I believe from my posts, just as Sal does. That's because they both *expect* me to believe certain things and find it extraordinarily confusing and disturbing when my posts don't confirm their ex
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "matrixmonitor"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> [snip]
>
> > >
> > > Maharishi was a target of the CIA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is utter, unproven crap.
>
> There is ZERO evidence -- and never has
On Dec 24, 2005, at 9:12 AM, Peter wrote:MMY started talking about the CIA in the mid-70's to international staff. I had a good friend on staff then and she told me that everyone was a bit baffled by the whole thing and would politely listen and not say anything. It was the beginning of MMY blami
On Dec 24, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Vaj wrote:
> Wasn't the rumor started on the Beatle's Rishikesh course? There
> was someone on that course who was rumored to be a CIA agent--sorry
> forget his name. But the CIA did keep a file John Lennon, which I
> believe is now largely public. Really what e
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> Is that what they call a backwards compliment? Or
> is it the famous
> passive-aggressivness Dr. Peter finds everywhere.
Not everywhere, just somewhere at sometimes. And as a
semi-side note, doesn't it se
--- feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're evading the point and also attributing to me
> an argument I never put
> forward.
Shame on you, feste37! You've been on here long enough
to know that responding to one's own inferences and
claiming it as a statement by another poster is par
for t
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "matrixmonitor"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > >
> > > > Maharishi was a target of t
On Dec 23, 2005, at 6:01 PM, feste37 wrote:You're evading the point and also attributing to me an argument I never put forward. No, merely pointing out the absurdity of M's "generosity".It's an open question as far as I'm concerned whether he has helped the lives of the others close to him more
on 12/24/05 8:12 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> MMY started talking about the CIA in the mid-70's to
> international staff. I had a good friend on staff then
> and she told me that everyone was a bit baffled by the
> whole thing and would politely listen and not say
> anything. It was t
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test
on 12/24/05 9:47 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would be interested in one article in recent years--just one (or more if they exist)--of one person outside the TMO mentioning the word "generosity" or "compassion"
on 12/24/05 11:55 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Unless he could convince them he was Christ, they'd probably kill
> him. And
>> to convince them of that, he would have to massacre the non-
> Christians,
>> because that's what they're expecting the Big Guy to do.
>>
>
> Funny how
On Dec 24, 2005, at 11:07 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/24/05 9:47 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I would be interested in one article in recent years--just one (or more if they exist)--of one person outside the TMO mentioning the word "generosity" or "compassion" in regards to M.I feel that on
On Dec 24, 2005, at 3:00 PM, gerbal88 wrote:As you might recall, immediately after 9/11, Mahesh took out ads in 3 major newspapers basically threatening more of the same unless the US government gave him a billion $ to save us all. I have the PDF in case anyone really needs proof that he's los
On Dec 26, 2005, at 1:31 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the world. But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and irrationally paranoid which is what MMY very well may be if he thinks the TMO has been spied upon and infiltrated by t
--- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "matrixmonitor"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > >
> > > > Maharishi was a target of t
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right after I got back from TTC in '74, a few
> initiators at my
> center started getting involved with -- for lack of
> a better word --
> a faith-healer in Nebraska whom they would send
> money to and she
> would work on your aura or some such t
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great
> teaching to the
> > world. But I suppose even a great saint can be
> delusional and
> > irrationally parano
on 12/26/05 8:49 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the
>> world. But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and
>> irrationally
On Dec 26, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/26/05 8:49 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to theworld. But I suppose even a great saint can
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "shempmcgurk"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Y
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