Re: OT ear mite treatment

2006-01-05 Thread PEC2851
Hideyo~ Acarexx can be used on kittens as young as 4 weeks. We have used on kittens before, but they've always been 8 weeks or older. Patti  

How to pill a Cat

2006-01-05 Thread Steph E Caldwell
Borrowed from COTH board -- How to give a cat a pill... 1. Pick up cat and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand. As cat opens mouth,

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread PEC2851
Bonnie~ It sounds like maybe a transfusion would be beneficial for Fu right now With my feral girl who was on Epogen (she was dx.w/ CRF _ I basically took her home for hospice care cause no one at the shelter could touch her), after I found a vet willing to treat a terminally ill "feral",

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread PEC2851
Bonnie~ Have your vet set up an account with PVPL (Professional Veterinary Products, Ltd.). It is a veterinary supplier, like a co-op, and they are offering a 30 day trial period. When I did all the ordering for the shelter, our main supplier was PVPL, and I ordered our Epogen (epoetin, proc

Re: Please wish Patches good luck! and Lucy too!

2006-01-05 Thread catatonya
I hope Patches comes through this all with flying colors.  And I'm sure she will. Good luck with Lucy and the homemade diet.  IBD is such a b*tch to put it bluntly.  It's hard to figure out the causes, and stress causes it the most with my little guy who suffers from it periodically.    I empath

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
That's what I thought too; I'll ask the vet to clarify. > If his cancer is in remission, it does not make sense to me that > the anemia > is from the cancer. If it is from the cancer, it means the cancer > is in his > bone marrow and not in remission. > > How is Fu feeling? > > Michelle

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Fu is pretty wiped out, Michelle. He can barely move, but I think the folic acid has helped a little. When he looks like he had to go to the little box, I carry him there and support him while goes - or tries to go. I'm hand-feeding him a/d with Fancy Feast beef liver mixed in. I've got some beef

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Michelle, Thanks for the info. I was basically wondering if a transfusion would help Fu. The vet is leaning toward thinking that his cancer, although in remission could be causing the anemia. Fu did start to come out of remission earlier last year, but we doubled the dose of pred and that put him

Re: Bailey's anemic

2006-01-05 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi Belinda, I agree with Michelle about the dex shots...they did wonders for Bandy..Our concern is using it on long term can cause diabetes..That was the main reason for his specialist wanting to stop them...so I have .75mg. pills that I am giving him now...The pred wouldn't lower his temp, but 1/

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread Lernermichelle
If you are wondering about cost for a blood transfusion (I answered only about Epogen before), Simon's were each about $400, I think, when given to him as an outpatient.  Each transfusion took a few hours. I think I remember others saying this was the cost they paid as well, except for someon

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread Nina
I was wondering about a blood transfusion for Fu, but was hesitant to ask. Nina BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote: How much does Epogen cost? My vet called one pharmacy; they told him they have to order it in units of ten, which would come to $350. I wonder if Fu could use a blood transfusion. His rbc

Re: OT ear mite treatment

2006-01-05 Thread Nina
Hi Hideyo, I've only used Acarexx on grown kitties.  I wish I could buy the stuff over the counter, it works just great with one application and I've never seen any side effects.  I've never used it on kittens though.  If I were you, I'd dilute it with some olive oil, (I've heard that mineral o

Re: Bailey is anemic

2006-01-05 Thread Nina
I've used cypro with Gypsy. I got it in a transdermal, but when I was tempted to give it to her, it was obvious that she wanted to eat, just couldn't somehow. It seemed cruel to give her something to stimulate her appetite when she was already hungry. I used to give B12 shots once a week, I

Jen and Michelle

2006-01-05 Thread Nina
Hello Ladies, I'm so pleased to hear how well Ewok, Lucy and Patches are doing!  I've pulled my darn back so I'm not able to keep up with emails, just wanted you to know how thrilled I am to hear your guys are doing well.  Michelle, besides your concerns about the poor turkey, I wouldn't worry

cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
How much does Epogen cost? My vet called one pharmacy; they told him they have to order it in units of ten, which would come to $350. I wonder if Fu could use a blood transfusion. His rbc is 15. The vet thinks the anemia is probably due to his GI tract cancer, although that is pretty much in remis

RE: Sub-Q for Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Wendy, if for some reason, your vet won't do it, just let me know - I can probably order for you on line (I use a different company, but I have a prescription there already, too) and have it shipped to you so that you can get a whole case of fluid which should last for a long time... -Original

Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?

2006-01-05 Thread Lernermichelle
In my experience vets would not transfuse until the hematocrit was down to 13.  But a transfusion could help. Epogen normally takes a few weeks to kick in, I think, so you might need to do a transfusion to keep him strong until then.  Epogen is definitely expensive.   If his cancer is in rem

RE: OT ear mite treatment

2006-01-05 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Hi, Kat, actually I have been cleaning their ears with olive oil and liquid V-E for a couple of times - will it kill the mites? I really hate to use something harsh on the kittens, especially Ghandi - he had a rough start, he is the one who swallowed the baby bottle and he eats well, but he does n

RE: Update on my cat and moving

2006-01-05 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Kevin, I am glad that you are able to find a place for your kitty - have you visited the place in person? I just wanted to make sure that you have had the opportunity to see the place and visit kitties there and meet care givers in person and you are comfortable with everything you have observed s

Update on my cat and moving

2006-01-05 Thread Kevin Blaisdell
I wanted to thank all those who have helped me with info and encouragement. I need to follow up to make the exact moving arrangement, but it looks like a generous shelter in IL is going to be able to accomadate Marilyn. On the down side the follow up IFA test came back positive. I knew the chanc

Re: OT ear mite treatment

2006-01-05 Thread Kat
Hideyo, It's probably is Ivermectin - I have no experience with this and kittens. If you're unsure, you can always just use mineral oil or olive oil. Squirt a dropperful into each ear (in as far as possible, and then hold the ear flap over the ear canal for a bit before they shake it out again).

RE: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
You are welcome - I was introduced them by CRF support group on line - they have so many people on the list who knows EVERYTHING about giving fluid and it's amazing and I learned so much from them, too! Good luck! And let me know if there is anything I can do to help! -Original Message- F

RE: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread wendy
Great info. Hideyo; thanks for the sites! I especially like the pictures. --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am attaching the websites which may help you with > different tips of > giving fluid - they are very helpful site. > > > > http://www.felinecrf.org/quick_summary.htm >

OT ear mite treatment

2006-01-05 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Hi, I need to treat my kitten and kitties with ear mites and have a medicine called Ararrex (with IVIC… something ) – has anyone experience any side effects in kittens?

RE: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Also, this is a site where you can buy all the fluid supplies at much much cheaper prices than you will get from your vet.   http://www.bricomedicalsupplies.com/     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006

RE: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I am attaching the websites which may help you with different tips of giving fluid – they are very helpful site.   http://www.felinecrf.org/quick_summary.htm http://www.weirdstuffwemake.com/weird/stuff/pets/cats/sophia/catjuice.html     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: Sub-Q for Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS
Wendy first time I did the sub Q on my baby C I thought I would never live through it.lucky he didI think gloria walked me though it on line very late at night. now I can do them before my eyes are open in the morning...its so much less stressful for them to do it at home rather than

RE: Sub-Q for Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Wow, Wendy, you have done well! Good for you! Do you have someone who can show you one time how it's done? (You have to be sure to avoid the spine.) Or have you found online step-by-step pix? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy S

Sub-Q for Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread wendy
Hi guys, Well, yesterday I ran into a problem trying to get sub-Q fluids for Stretch. The vet I originally took him to charges $30/35 for a set up, which I thought was crazy. So I called another vet, who said they'd have to talk to my vet since they hadn't seen my cat, which I didn't want in cas

Re: Jen-- How is Ewok?

2006-01-05 Thread Lernermichelle
Jen,     SO glad to hear Ewok is still doing well!!  Simon responded very well to the CCNU also. After that he got Adriamycin, which he did not respond well to, and I wished I had asked the oncologist to give him more CCNU instead. I think the oncologist was afraid that without switching the

Re: Jen-- How is Ewok?

2006-01-05 Thread jenmeyer
Hi Michelle! So far, so good...the CCNU seems to be working! His appetite is up (although he's still not eating as much as I'd like to see him eat...he's put on a little weight, but he's still probably only around 9 lbs--he weighed around 14 before this all started) and his energy level or "old-s

Re: Bailey is anemic

2006-01-05 Thread Lernermichelle
Hi. Cirproheptadine is the same thing as periactin, so that's what I was suggesting.  I do not know how long you have to wait for B-12 shots, but I think I have heard a week like you have.  Prednisone pills, or dexamethasone pills, also increase appetite and can have a stimulating effect on

Re: Bailey is anemic

2006-01-05 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Michelle, She did give me an appetite stimulent cypro something or other, I gave it to him once, but decided the most effect way to get food into him was by syringing. He had a B-12 shot on Monday, and I have another but don't you have to wait a week or so to give another? My vet is o

Re: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread Belinda Sauro
It may give you a more accurate reading if you can find a place to hang it where there isn't anything behind it pressing on it, like if you have a shower curtain rod/door do it in the bathroom and hang it from there. Mine is hanging suspended in air with nothing touching it. -- Belinda Hap

Jen-- How is Ewok?

2006-01-05 Thread Lernermichelle
Hi, Jen. I have been reading your posts to others and wondering how Ewok is doing. Has he reacted, good or bad, to the CCNU? Has he needed additional dex shots?  I don't remember when you did the combo shot, but he could possibly need another depo shot as well at some point I am hoping th

Re: Bailey is anemic

2006-01-05 Thread Lernermichelle
Belinda,    Have you tried B12 shots? These sometimes help with appetite and weight loss. Also, is he on periactin? Have you tried the liver shake recipe with him?      It might also be worth asking for a dexamethasone shot.  That sometimes jump starts them eating, and sometimes also helps wi

RE: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I hang it on the clothes hook on the back of the bedroom door. But your idea might be better as mine is a double hook and depending on which hook I hang it on (the bag slot isn't wide enough to fit over the double hook) the fluid level reading is different. Hanging it over the single hook probably

Re: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread Gloria Lane
Do you have to have a prescription to buy fluids online? I'm guessing yes...? Gloria -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need your help with Stretch Way

RE: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Yes, I heard it was about $3 online!! (The vet had her tech deliver to my workplace--not such a great distance. So still a rip-off!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:33 AM To: felvtalk@feline

Re: Bailey is anemic

2006-01-05 Thread Belinda Sauro
Thanks Jen, He is really depressed after getting fed, but I'm hoping once his tummy gets enough food in it he will forgive me and feel better. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.

Re: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread Belinda Sauro
Way too much for fluids, but she probably charged you her regular housecall fee plus the price of the fluids. I pay $10.00 a bag with about 10 needles (still high), you can buy them online for about $3 something a bag and I think the line is an extra dollar or two. -- Belinda Happiness is be

Re: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread Belinda Sauro
Another nice trick to be able to hang the fluid bag up high is to take a regular old wire clothes hanger and take the bottom part in the middle and stretch it completely out until the hanger looks like a long tube shape with the hang part at the top. The fold the tube part in half. You ca

RE: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message I already planned never to use her again, and unless I get desperate, that's confirmed it. Thanks Pattie! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:16 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleuke

Re: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread PEC2851
In a message dated 1/5/06 11:09:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Needles too. I think I was ripped off by the housecall vet. I paid $41 for delivery of one bag. Definitely~ The clinic could buy SEVERAL cases of fluids with all that $$$!!

Re: Bailey is anemic

2006-01-05 Thread jenmeyer
Hi Belinda! I'm trying to catch up with the list and just wanted to let you know that you and Bailey are in my thoughts!! Bailey has always been my kitty role model, too...knowing that he has beaten the odds has always given me hope when there's so little of it to go around with this virus, somet

RE: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Wendy, I'm barely keeping up with posts but see you're looking at giving fluids---believe me, if I can do it anyone can!  I'm as clumsy and squeamish as they come! A housecall vet showed me last year without me asking otherwise I know I would never have asked/learned. I get th

Patches & Lucy

2006-01-05 Thread Lomaxturtle
Michelle I send positive thoughts to you and your dear kitties. I dispute the people who said you are the wrong sort of person to take in 6FeLV+ cats. You are exactly the right kind of person because you care and will make sure the kitties get eternal love and the proper care they deserve. I am

Re: Bailey is anemic

2006-01-05 Thread Joan Doljan
Belinda,   I am so hoping that Bailey gets his medicine soon and starts to rebound.   JoanBelinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Kerry,Yes I did join the anemia group and am going to get the folic acid you mentioned. Bailey gets alot of the things you mentioned already. My vet also feels

Re: Bailey is anemic

2006-01-05 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Kerry, Yes I did join the anemia group and am going to get the folic acid you mentioned. Bailey gets alot of the things you mentioned already. My vet also feels Bailey's anemia is non regenerative and if Fred Meyers ever gets my procrit or epogen (procrit is on back order) I will ge

Re: Need your help with Stretch

2006-01-05 Thread catatonya
Hey Wendy,   Your vet will show you how to do it and tell you how much to give and how often.  One bag holds 1000 mL and typically you give 100-200 mL throughout the day so a a bag will last a while.   It IS hard when you first start, but you build up your confidence as you go.  Be prepared to

Re: anemia

2006-01-05 Thread Gloria Lane
Hi Kerry, I'm wondering what kind of Co Q 10 you use, and where you get it (also the Liqui-tinic ) Thanks! Gloria On Jan 5, 2006, at 1:52 AM, Kerry Roach wrote: Hi, I have been trying to catch up on reading some posts..so I think this is for Bonnie and Belinda...I am going to list what