Perhaps it helps them and Dukee to be near each other? I'm glad they are coming to see him and keeping him and you company. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried wrapping him in my sweatshirt that he likes to sit on...which is warm from me. He continues to move around and won't stay in t
Good idea Nina. My kitties also like to huddle in front on my space heater. Gina Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You can also take a sock and put uncooked rice in it, tie the top in a knot and microwave it until it's warm, (about 25 sec I think). Be sure it's not too warm. It will hold the
Will stress Dukee out if you let other
friends in? They may want to say good bye to him??
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12:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Losing Dukee.. :(
I think it's good that you are allowing everyone to come and see Dukee.
Hideyo and I were just talking about how when kitties get cold to the
touch like that they sometimes don't seem to want to be warmed up.
That the do just the opposite and go and lay down on tile or some such
thing. I do
I have tried wrapping him in my sweatshirt that he likes to sit
on...which is warm from me.
He continues to move around and won't stay in the same spot
long.
He is agitated.
He prefers the coolness as well for whatever
reasons.
I'm allowing all the cats to come and go in the computer room
You can also take a sock and put uncooked rice in it, tie the top in a
knot and microwave it until it's warm, (about 25 sec I think). Be sure
it's not too warm. It will hold the heat and he might want to nestle
in next to it.
N
Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
Do you have
fluid bag or
Terry, his pulling away is no refection on his love for you, or even if
he's "happy". Sometimes they just need to distance themselves from
those of us still firmly connected to the earth plane. He's spending
time in and out of his body and it may just be that the touch of his
loved ones bring
Do you have fluid bag or water bottle? I
microwaved fluid bag and wrapped with towel and put it around for Tsubomi –
since she as very anemic she was very cold – but for some reason she
still preferred to be at cool place ..
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Yes, he is cold to the touch.
No, I don't have a heating pad or a
blanket...crap!
What can I try?
In a message dated 10/26/2006 11:07:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does he feel cold Terrie? Someone on the list mentioned in the
past that perhaps a heating b
Does he feel cold Terrie? Someone on the list mentioned in the past that perhaps a heating blanket or heating pad set on low might help make him feel more comfortable. Gina kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 10:35 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote:If he us having trouble with his rear leg it soun
At 10:35 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote:
If he us having trouble with his rear leg it sounds like perhaps a clot.
that is how I lost my Angel, It is common with heart problems and it is
very painful, When my angel was in pain I made that awful
decision, but the emergency vets did not presedate so I gav
She has FIP – and it’s auto immune disease
--- so I just don’t know if I should wait to use on epogen as I will be afraid
of the antibody reactions from it.. but I don’t want to wait too long – because
her PCV is already down to 15 – what d=should I do?
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In addition to what Michelle said .. I
think many people on the list are not egotistical for some reasons.. we don’t
really care about “being right”—we just want to help others
in any way we can.. lots of people on the list don’t even have felk
kitties but still stay on the list because of
My girlfriend was close by so I ask her to help me on this. She
said she would be more than glad to help in this matter on giving Dukee his
Interferon treatments.
She is also retired Manager and Vet Tech of a huge animal
clinic.
I have a lot of confidence in her. She is always rescuing
anima
Terrie – I am so sorry what Dukee
and you are going through ---I don’t know if this is going to help you or
not --- but from what my AC has told me .. usually when our babies are close to
passing, their soul actually goes in and out of body, and they may not feel
that pain as you may observ
Thank you
Yes, I seen the messages that's okay. Rudy my Siamese does that
to me sometimes.
The answer is yes Hideyo he was given the Interferon by my best
friend that is a Vet Tech. She is familiar with it.
There is damage to his system I guess was too late for it
to work.
He is slowl
That is so beautiful and true Nina. Let yourself feel the love and support we have for you Terrie, Dukee and family. I figured out the glitch...it was my Tigger cat sitting on my lap with his head on the keyboard that made the message enter multiple times. Maybe so you would see it? I don't
Terrie, have you been trying interferon on
him?
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10:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Losing Dukee.. :(
I am up and online...Computer glitch
I've asked St. Francis, Jazzy and Spencer to sit vigil with your
family, to comfort all of you and to be there to greet Dukee when his
time comes.
Much love my dear,
Nina
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Oh my god that is beautiful...I'm shedding tears can
barely see the computer typ
Oh my god that is beautiful...I'm shedding tears can barely see
the computer typing this to you.
In a message dated 10/26/2006 9:17:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
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Terrie,It's so sweet that Vinnie and Buggy are sitting vigil with
you and Dukee. What a lovely
That's okay...I understand.
Thank you and Bless you!
Dukee is in his cat carrier by the cat beds.
He is acting as if he wants to be alone in which we (Vinnie,
Buggy and me)are staying right where we are at this time. If he decides to leave
on his own we will be with him til the end.
Terrie,
It's so sweet that Vinnie and Buggy are sitting vigil with you and
Dukee. What a lovely family you have. I know it sometimes helps ease
the pain, just a little, to talk to my loved one about all the Angels
and friends that are hovering near, waiting anxiously to greet them. I
talk ab
Something just went very awry with my computer! Please pardon all those messages. GinaGina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Terrie, I am so sorry about Dukee. I am going to be online until at least 12:30 pm (PST). If you want to write back and forth, on the list or at my email address, p
Terrie, I am so sorry about Dukee. I am going to be online until at least 12:30 pm (PST). If you want to write back and forth, on the list or at my email address, please do. I will be sending calming peaceful energy to Dukee and you. I am going Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTE
Terrie, I am so sorry about Dukee. I am going to be online until at least 12:30 pm (PST). If you want to write back and forth, on the list or at my email address, please do. I will be sending calming peaceful energy to Dukee and you. I Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro
Terrie, I am so sorry about Dukee. I am going to be online until at least 12:30 pm (PST). If you want to write back and forth, on the list or at my email address, please do. I will be sending calming peaceful energy to Dukee and you. Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Terrie, I am so sorry about Dukee. I am going to be online until at least 12:30 pm (PST). If you want to write back and forth, on the list or at my email address, please do. I will be sending calming peaceful energy to Dukee and you. I am going to Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PR
Terrie, I am so sorry about Dukee. I am going to be online until at least 12:30 pm (PST). If you want to write back and forth, on the list or at my email address, please do. I will be sending calming peaceful energy to Dukee and you. I am Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terrie,We're all here for you and yours and are sending strength and calm your way. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous- Origina
Elizabeth, Kelly, and Nina,
Thank you so much for your nice emails.
I would like to add thanks to those that have responded to my
posting of Dukee you all are very comforting in the time of
need.
Especially you HideyoBless You!
I'm WA. state which is pacific time.
In a message dated
I would like to add that he is starting to breathe harder as
well.
I held him a few minutes ago felt him all over. He has no tummy
and I don't hear any rattling in his lungs. I don't feel any tumors or anything
out of the ordinary.
I think it is his heart since I did mention he had a heart
m
Oh Terrie, I'm so sorry. Do you have any Valium in the house? It
helped one of mine relax and let go when he was suffering and it was
close to his time. Sally uses the homeopathic remedy Arsenicum. She
was told that it will help ease them into a peaceful transition. What
time zone are you
At 08:15 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote:
I have been told that some valium might relax him,,it is so very hard..My
heart andtears are with you.
Kelly
As I sit here I'm
crying my eyes out having problems typing this to you all. My husband
keeps checking on us see how we are doing. We are in my compute
Oh Terrie. I am in tears too. I wish I knew something that
would help. I send my love and my prayers to you both.
elizabeth
In a message dated 10/26/2006 10:16:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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As I sit here I'm crying my eyes out having problems typing
thi
As I sit here I'm crying my eyes out having problems typing
this to you all. My husband keeps checking on us see how we are doing. We are in
my computer room with his best buddy "Vinnie".
I have soft lights, food and water along with their beds in
here.
Can anyone tell me what tranquilizer
The teeth and roots are being reabsorbed into her gums, the only way
to fix it is pull the teeth and make sure to get all of the root out,
otherwise it's basically like doing nothing and very painful.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com
Post
We’re having similar problems with Montana and
Scooter. Scooter is our new adopted
FeLV+ kitty, and before Scooter came to us, Montana pretty much
slept on our bed at night, hung out with me while I was working, and generally
was the boss of the place. Years
ago, when I adopted Karma, the
I just read the vetrinary guidelines and noticed that they say AZT can help
with stomatitis. That's a good thing to keep in mind. For the person who
recently posted about a cat with mouth problems, it is something to look
into.
Michelle
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I was surprised when I read thi
I think that the reason this list is different is that it takes a different
sort of person to want to and be willing to care for cats with FeLV. It
takes a lot of compassion, and also a lot of willingness to face hard things,
and also a willingness to have an open mind and do some research.
Go to a feline dentist, not a regular vet, to get them removed. The dentist
will be more expensive, but it is worth it if you can afford it. They do a
much better job.
Michelle
In a message dated 10/26/2006 10:57:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Thank
you so m
Tsunade is doing much better. She has really gotten into playing with
toys (was not interested at 1st). I bought some new toys yesterday, put
4 of them in her porch and she went wild knocking them everwhere. She
even brought me a present, she carried her fish plush toy, and dropped it
on the ma
It is completely unpredictable. But supplements and good care seem to
help a lot. I forgot to mention that CoQ10 is supposed to help with gum
problems. I had one of mine on it for a few years.
Michelle
In a message dated 10/25/2006 6:08:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wr
It depends on what is causing the anemia. If it is either an auto-immune
reaction or lymphoma in the bone marrow, steroids should help (though a stronger
steroid like dexamethasone would help more, probably). If it is leukemia
the cancer it might help also. It probably will not help for an
Hi Kat and Nina, Thank you for all your information. I am learning new things everyday. Kat, I didn't received your email, but I saw it attached to Nina's. Thanks, IoanaNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Ioana and Kat,I got my Oregon Grape fe online through Earth Spirits: http://www.earths
Believe me, Kat - I am on the look out for killer rabbits.
Considering the amount of stress, crapola, red tape and politics
I go through on a daily basis (not to mention having to code like a
bandit) - this is somewhere down in the noise as far as the amount of
stress generated. I'm very
Hi Ioana and Kat,
I got my Oregon Grape fe online through Earth Spirits:
http://www.earthspirits-herbals.com/Americart/AllEssences/allessences.htm
They distribute for several different companies, the Oregon Grape is
offered through Flower Essence Services (FES):
http://www.earthspirits-herbal
Oh my!! What a beautiful cat!!! I hope he finds a home...I love to have him
i'm in nj though...he is soo cute and looks like my "crackers" distatnt "cousin"
so cute
kayte and crackers
Hi Ioana,
Oregon Grape (Mahonia nervosa) --
I have heard of some cases of aggression being helped by this. It is
useful for fears as a result of being paranoid or having some mistrust of
others. It may enable your animal to again begin to trust and feel more
comfortable with others. Releases th
What is this Oregon Grape Flower Essence good for? Where it can be purchased from? IoanaKat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry,Oregon Grape Flower EssenceThere is a small overview pertaining to cats athttp://www.holisticat.com/fes.htmlKat (Mew Jersey)
Do you Yahoo!?
Get on board. You're invite
Elizabeth,
It almost sounds like a Monty Python skit in the making...
I applaud you for your perseverance and your patience - I
probably would have had a meltdown by now!!
Please keep on keeping-on, you're doing a wonderful thing
for all of us!
Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 [EMAIL PROTEC
I think my ear is purple from being on hold and I am quite dizzy from the "run-around".
That being said, I am still awaiting calls from the CEO of Carrington Labs and from the FDA. I contacted the USDA and talked to the main office, USDA-Veterinary Services, USDA-APHIS (Animal and Plant Hea
Thanks Kat--I may get some Oregon Grape for my own cats.
Kerry
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Kerry,
Oregon G
Kerry,
Oregon Grape Flower Essence
There is a small overview pertaining to cats at
http://www.holisticat.com/fes.html
Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:
> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:30:39 -0500
> From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Title: Message
Thanks
so much Nina & Kat. You're gems. Have passed on these great ideas, and will
be speaking to her tonight. Fingers crossed.
(Nina,
what's grape fe?)
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All really good ideas. I forgot to mention that Matilda gets RR and
Oregon grape fe in her water.
Nina
Kat wrote:
Kerry,
It's so hard when they get off to a wrong start...
Basically, you have to go back to square one and start all over.
Keeping them in seperate rooms, swapping their beddi
Kerry,
I feel for Molly and the cats. Maybe you can help her to understand
that it's not uncommon for acclimation to new homes with adult cats to
take months not days or even weeks. I would suggest she go back a few
steps and confine Katya to a bathroom with a screen door. Tell her to
showe
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Kerry,
It's so hard when they get off to a wrong start...
Basically, you have to go back to square one and start all over.
Keeping them in seperate rooms, swapping their bedding each day,
swapping their rooms every 4-5 days, using cooking vanilla dabbed
on each one (both the head and the tail) to
Hi all
I just got an email from the adopter ("Molly")of my former foster cat
("Katya"). Molly emailed the shelter and copied me in part (see
below--I've changed all names to protect privacy!). It seems she's about
to give up Katya because of the effect it's having on her own cat,
"Amber". Molly, I
Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary Laboratories returned my call a moment ago. The organization responsible for this audit is the USDA. She gave me some contact numbers there and I am going to do my very best to be professional when I express to the USDA my displeasure with knowing that there are cats
Elizabeth,
Thanks for doing this!!! That is awesome of you to
take time to find out what's going on. You are
helping out so many others by doing this-that's why I
like you!
:)
Wendy
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> I've been on the phone this morning with Veterinary
> Products Laboratories. Th
The thing about Samantha is that she does eat the hard food and doesn't
seem to experience any discomfort when eating it.I believe she is
actually eating less because of the weight loss as I'm not home during
the day. I know what you mean when you say that you have to be happy
knowing you did your
You are so welcome! Interesting. I just contacted the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Center for Veterinary Medicine and talked to a very nice lady there. I told her the situation and the experience I had with VPL and Carrington Labs and told her that I didn't know if their office was the cor
Does anyone know anything about DHEA – Dr. Addie
mentioned it being effective to use in stead of steroid.. what are the side
effects?
Elizabeth, thank your for doing this.
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9:10 AM
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Subject: Re: Acemannan
availability
I've been on the phone this morning with Ve
It's always hard when money *has* to be a consideration, but it sounds
like you're doing the right thing as needed. Best of luck to you and
Samantha with the 3-toofies extraction. I bet she feels at least
*better* right away.
Diane R.
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I've been on the phone this morning with Veterinary Products Laboratories. They were unable to answer my questions but say they will have someone call me. I also left a message for the CEO of Carrington Labs (without a great deal of hope that they will return my call). I did my best to be frien
This vet definitely has experience with the disease. Eventually, I will
go to a vet dentist if whole mouth extraction is necessary. I just don't
have the money right now and the vet feels that the three teeth need to
be removed immediately.
Nancy Schneider
Management Analyst
Dept of Transportation
Thank you so much for the article. It answers more questions than any
vet. The vet does suggest three tooth extractions although she said this
would buy the cat only 3 to 6 months. Eventually all the teeth will have
to be removed. The article mentioned irritability because of the mouth
pain. That i
Here is an article with photos, some of the photos are graphic,
it shows the different stages of the disease and what treatment is.
Ask your vet if he has ever treated a cat with this, it may be a good
idea to see a vet dentist if that is possible to make sure the roots
are completely extra
PS. It is imperative that the teeth roots are removed or the problem
WILL NOT be taken care of. I thought at one time there was a member of
the group who had a kitty with this problem, it's been a while ago, I'm
thinking it may have been Patti, not sure though.
--
Belinda
happiness is being
Nancy,
Here is an article on what your vet is saying your baby has:
http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00066.htm
If your vet is right and your kitty has FORL (Feline Odontoclastic
Resorptive Lesions), it is a very painful disease and really needs to be
treated.
Soon after they first began to withhold this product from the market, I
called Veterinary Products Lab. (Hideyo found out about this
initially when she was trying to buy the product). It was still available
on their site then too. That's when they told me about the audit. At
that time
http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=&mainkey=&pid=80&key=8&cat=Wound%20Management
so the injectible is still on their current webpage, for what that's worth!
On 10/26/06, Paolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I dug in my old Emails about ACEMANNAN (please note the double N in the
spelling, if you
I dug in my old Emails about ACEMANNAN (please note the double N in the
spelling, if you use a search engine ACEMANAN won't work), and in effects
once I contacted Carrington Labs, and they redirected me to Veterinary
Products Laboratories (VPL, http://www.vpl.com), that unfortunately I
could not co
I am picturing Dharma bathed in healing energy. You and she will be in my prayers. Gina wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hideyo,Prayers going out that little Dharma begins eatingbetter and that she regains her color.:)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired
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