Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests

2012-01-04 Thread Marcia
Are these normally just inaccurate as far as false positives go? Are there ever any false negatives? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: The patent ran out so i assumed others were producing them more cheaply but I don't know. That's

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2012-01-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I just got this message from Karineh, who took Dolly to yet another vet (two in one day) at the urging of a rescue group that was paying for it: the vet said your best bet is to put her to sleep. he feels there may be some signs of FIP as well due to a flabby belly did a test and saw just a

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread GRAS
Stress definitely plays a role! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of HIDEYO YAMAMOTO Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 6:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I would recommend

Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests

2012-01-04 Thread GRAS
I have never heard of false negatives, ONLY of false positives! Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:08 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread GRAS
It's really hard for me to understand why a vet wouldn't operate on a cat without vaccinations. What if surgery is imminently required, does he wait until the cat is vaccinated, and then operate, even if it may be dangerous for the cat to wait? This also means that a sick cat would have to be

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread Marcia Baronda
My daughter took her cat to the vet in Ohio to get dental work done. The cat is 13, was bottle raised by her, and has NEVER set foot outside. He has no idea what outside is. Yet, they informed her that they would not touch her cat without giving him a rabies vaccine. It is strictly a county law.

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread Beth
vets don't want unvaccinated animals in their clinics because they are trying to protect against the spread of disease. I was at the vet a few months ago when someone brought in a puppy which clearly had Parvo placed it on the floor! The vet quickly took car of the issue, but if others had

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2012-01-04 Thread Beth
FIP can be diagnosed by sending the fluid from the abdomen to a lab. Usually a vet can look at the fluid tell it is FIP. It is a stringy yellow fluid. FIP is often associated with FeLV. This cat is definitely NOT a candidate for a sanctuary. She needs individualized care. I would never put

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread MaiMaiPG
Interestingly, the vaccination is not retro-activethere is a time lapse between the vaccination and the time it takes effect so vaccinating one the day of surgery gives no one protection. On Jan 4, 2012, at 8:26 AM, GRAS wrote: It's really hard for me to understand why a vet wouldn't

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2012-01-04 Thread Maureen Olvey
Yes, it all seems premature to me. Just remember, once the cat is put to sleep there is no bringing it back but if you wait a few more days and do all the test then you can always put the cat down later. Don't put a cat down because the vet says so. Listen to the vets but don't make a

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread MaiMaiPG
Some vets seem to think enforcing a law that puts the burden of vaccination on the owner is the vets responsibilitynot so. On Jan 4, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Marcia Baronda wrote: My daughter took her cat to the vet in Ohio to get dental work done. The cat is 13, was bottle raised by her, and

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread Maureen Olvey
I said that to my vet one time about the vaccine offering no protection at all if given at the same time as surgery. The vet agreed. What could she say. We weren't talking about a specific pet though so there was no arguing but when I said it to a vet tech one time it kind of shocked her

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread Maureen Olvey
Good point. All this talk about vaccinations made me think about my FeLV + kitten. I hadn't even thought about it until today but she's old enough for a rabies shot. She's about four and a half months old right now. Do you think I should get one for her? She does go into my

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread Maureen Olvey
I think I might have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I didn't, studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations will provide immunity for at least 4 years. Interesting huh? I need to check out that group again to see if they've found anything else out or if it

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread lernermichelle
the 1 year and 3 year shots are the same shot. the recommendations just require a booster 1 year after the first shot, so the first time it's calle 1 year and thereafter 3 year. there is a less common brand called purevax that is only approved for every year versus every 3 years. it's only

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread Maureen Olvey
Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I had heard that the one year and the three year shots were the same but I didn't understand why the shots were a different price and the vets talk like it's a different shot. I might start asking for the Purevax without the adjuvant

Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests

2012-01-04 Thread Sharyl
I don't know if you would call it a false negative.  It is possible for a cat to be so recently exposed to the FeLV virus that it will not show up on the test.  That's why many recommend retesting a few weeks later.   Sharyl From: Marcia

[Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-04 Thread GRAS
.and on the same note, as the rabies providing immunity for up to 4 years, some states accept results of a titer to show that the animal is still protected, especially if an animal's immune system is compromised and too many vaccines aren't advisable. Find out if it applies in your states.

Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests

2012-01-04 Thread GRAS
Yes, it can be that the antibodies aren't yet shoeing up.that's why it is recommended that a rescued animal be kept for a certain time, way from others, and retested. Except, it's not always possible when shelters and small rescue groups are filled and would like to find homes asap. From:

Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-04 Thread Lorrie
I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac. and then giving the 3 year vac a year later. On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote: I think I might have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I didn't, studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations

Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-04 Thread GRAS
Yup, that's the idea! The FVRCP, for example, according to a protocol of a few years ago, should be given every 3 yrs now, but they still insist on the yearly ones; in fact, after the first series, technically, a cat is protected for life. -Original Message- From:

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2012-01-04 Thread dlgegg
Of course, now is too late, but I did not kill even when the 2nd test came back positive. In any case, I would wat until it became necessary and certainly not on HIS it looks like, not really sure diagnosis. I would get another opinion. When my Shalie was diagnosed with hyper active thyroid,

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2012-01-04 Thread MaiMaiPG
These decisions are so difficult and so personal. I am not sure anyone can tell another what to do unless she is involved with the friend in question. I've let one die on her own and was/am very sure it was the right thing to do. I've had one die a few minutes after we left the vets'

Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-04 Thread dlgegg
My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass rabbies on. I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I'm sure the vets make more

[Felvtalk] News from Winn Foundation on Possible Treatment of FeLV

2012-01-04 Thread Sharyl
Just saw this article. Treatment for feline leukemia virus http://winnfelinehealth.blogspot.com/2012/01/treatment-for-feline-leukemia-virus.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation+%28Cat+Health+News+from+the+Winn+Feline+Foundation%29

Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-04 Thread MaiMaiPG
You do the best you can do with the information you have and the circumstances and know that what you do is done with love. I have ferals that have been with each other for long periods of time. I can't isolate those with problems and, even if I could, they would all have been exposed. I

Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
I understand that manufacturers are no longer making 1 year vaccine--its all 3 years. In fact, most adult animals develop a long time immunity after the first 3 year shot. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On

Re: [Felvtalk] News from Winn Foundation on Possible Treatment of FeLV

2012-01-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I wonder if Dr. Sam Chachoua would be able to help with Felv, as he has helped with other retroviruses---or at least their effects (that is, AIDS from HIV). On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Just saw this article. Treatment for feline leukemia virus