luck to you sweetie!
On 5/2/06, Dudes
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Thank
you so much for all of your advice, Nina.I am so appreciative,
andwill definitely give it all a try.RR and more Feliway,
coming up! But I have to say, Cotton is not at all stressed
.He's a happy
Hi Wendy:
Good to hear from you. I also thought that perhaps there should be blood
drawn to get a baseline cbc to be able to watch for a trend, and I'm glad
you suggested it. Will keep everyone posted.
Sandy
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To:
Hi Nina:
When Cotton first turned up positive, I pulled out everyone's records and
verified them at the vet's office. All of my established cats had been
vaccinated at one time or another. Cricket actually had 2 vaccines. I have
a couple of theories about her exposure turning into
Thank you so much for all of your advice, Nina. I am so appreciative, and
will definitely give it all a try. RR and more Feliway, coming up!
But I have to say, Cotton is not at all stressed . He's a happy, cheerful
little guy. He protests loudly when he doesn't get his way, but he's quickly
else out!
Nina
Dudes wrote:
What does every(any)one think about the new appearance of a heart murmur
in my Cricket? Is this an uncommon symptom to appear in FeLV+ cats? I
can't find much in research on the web.
And I am not sure that I feel the same way about mixing positives and
negatives
men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow
man.
St. Francis
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent
I think that is a more accurate way to refer to
it, Michelle. I remember oncemy hubby was on them for a bad case of
poison ivy, and he was like the Tazmanian devil, he was a whirlwind of
energy! On the flip side, he had terrible insomnia while on
it.I also knew someone who took it foran
Agreed,I have heard it IS different in
cats. And for cats, I'm very glad. I would hate to wake up in the
middle of the night to find my kitty glaring down at me from the nightstand with
a tiny knife. (boo, hiss~I'll be here all week!)
Eh-hem, anyways, I did not realize that dogs
also get
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I liked the look on the cat's face when you stop the meowing. I'm glad you
enjoyed.
Sandy
Rebecca, so glad to hear that Brooklyn is much better.
About the biting thing, I have one of those too! Cotton doesn't seem to
tolerate much petting either. I notice that when Cotton's tail starts to
flick or he starts flinching the skin on his back, or if his ears start to
move back just a
Michelle, please don't say it's ridiculous, because I already feel
guilty enough for trying to please everyone. I may not have a choice, and
I just have to do the best I can for Cotton with my resources and my
situation. My husband Eric makes 3x the money I do, and has the final say
in
Thank you Belinda. I get a Christmas bonus from my doc every year, and
that's what I intend for it to go on.
Sandy
Cotton's the first orange cat I've ever known
personally. He's so different from my others (whitewithtabby
spots, black and white tux, black). He's definitely anA type
personality.
S
There are no ordinary orange cats.
Michelle
In a message dated 12/11/2005 8:45:59 P.M. Eastern
Nina, Presto, Sherry:
Cotton is acting like hiszippy, happy
little self! He's such a cutie, his coat is shiny, soft and he's
growing! His eyes are bright and full of mischief, and he spends much of
his days playing andfollowing us so as not to miss anything.
He'sdoing so well right now,
I am also fascinated by whiskers!
My sweet little Cricket has slightly curled
ones, and she brings them all forward when I ask her for a kiss. I
consider that a very big compliment!
My Miss loves hers stroked.
Cotton has one black whisker on each
cheek. The others are all white. I always
Michelle,
Do you remember thecost, so I can firstly comparepricing, and secondly so
I can soften the blow for my husband? He's not excited about an expensive
treatment used in prolonging the life of a terminally ill cat.He
feels like it's pretty futile, and he worries thatmyoptimism and
Hi Everyone;
I got a second opinion on Cotton's xray
of his 2 view abdomen which we got when he was sick almost a month ago.
Thevet said thatCotton's liver and kidneys are enlarged,
which makes her very suspicious of lymphoma. She said that if this is the
case in both his kidneys and liver
Hi Michelle:
I work for a urologist, and am curious to
know what does the vet recommend for the long term treatment ofLucy's
bladder stone? I know that in humans, the stone cause to bladder to be
quite irritated, the lining of the bladderis always inflammed,and this can
be a cause
Ah...so maybe the cats know what they are
talking aboutby not eating itPerhaps I will go to the website and
ask. At any rate, still no takers today.
SAs far as
arguments against EVO. I read that the rosemary in it, (I'm pretty
sure that's what it was), is not suppose to be good for
Aw, Thank you Wendy. I did not tell you all that to toot my own horn,
because I have made some mistakes in my life with animal companions that
make me cringe to think about. But I do feel like more people need to be
more understanding and patient with fuzzies, especially after they get a
little
Nina, you make me smile! I will be
sure to watch carefully the next timewe are out stalking
socks!Miss is a real sweetie,and
shelovesfetching. She used to jump very acrobatically, but
alas, her weight prohibits her from it now.
Sandy
That's so very cute! What a doll-baby! It sounds like
Tonya,
My friend has one, and callsit
herHelen Keller because it can't see or hear, but it functions very
well! That's not very P.C. , I know, but I thought it was funny. Her
cats are also fascinated by it, and enjoy watching it.
Sandy
Also, I don't know if anyone else has one, but I
I know this is off topic too, but i have
a food question which I need help with.
Ok, so I took y'all's advice and got some
better food for the cats, mainly so Cotton gets the best chance at being
well. I had no idea there was super premium food for cats that was human
grade, but I
Michelle,
That's genius. Will definitely keep that one tucked away for future
reference. Sandy
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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:35
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Subject: Re: Sigh...
I have not been following
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This thread upsets me too, but I amof the
belief thatif afamily memberhas a problem, we don't put them
to sleep, do we?
I heard someone at work telling a water cooler
story, and it was just horrifying to me, I just can't ever forget it. The
guysaid that he and hiswife and
Aw, Rebecca, I wish I was there to help you hold him! That Metranidazole is
so bitter! Cats are so agile and lithe, able to twist and kick so fast.
Even when they don't feel well. It sounds like you really tried your
hardest. Perhaps the vet will find another way to help you help him.
And
Hideyo, I'm sorry, too.
I can't even imagine how hard it must be for you to lose Garfunkle. I know
he brought you a lot of love. I hope you always feel him near you.
Peace and comfort,
Sandy
One other tip that might work today, Rebecca. You might try crushing the
pill into powder, and then put it in a little bit of water or tuna water,
and by little bit, I mean like a cc. A medicine cup usually works best for
mixing such a small amount. Then draw it all up in a syringe and have it
Rebecca:
Please remember I am totally new, and I might be wrong, so please keep in
mind that I am learning along side you. Here are some of my thoughts.
Hm...in my experience with Cotton becoming sick with GI symptoms recently,
the ER vet said that with all FeLV+ cats, they can NOT be treated
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Sent:
Sunday, November 20, 2005 12:57 AM
Subject:
Re: Cotton crisis

Aw
Tonya, I know, I feel the same way. But I did
go and see Sonya Fitzpatrick at a talk she was giving, and I was
impressed. It wasnot so much by her story, which I had heard before,
but by her deep sense of compassion, her positive way of thinking about our
furry loved ones, and how
That sounds reasonable to me. But in vomiting/diarrhea, there can be
electrolyte imbalance from dehydration, sometimes it is a symptom of UTI, both
of whichneed to becorrected right away.Because no
mention of dehydration was made, then bloodwork might not have been indicated
per the vet's
No problem, Patti, no offense taken. I totally respect your history
of being a cat mom and also your views. I understand your concern with
vets that don't know about FeLV, and it's a shame that we feel like we have to
second guess them. But we do, andI feelvery comfortable with
the advice
Cricket had an infection
that he got from his toenails being ripped out while
trying to escape a dog
Ow! Poor Cricket! Bad dog!
If I would have left his
treatment up to the vet, he would have only lived 2
and a half years versus four and a half.
I suppose you could get so focused on one thing,
Thank you Patti. It's very wonderful to know.
I applaud your self discipline, vegans! I wondered if Tofurkey is
tasty when someone mentioned it? I like Morningstar soy-veggie
sausage-like patties. I've been eating those for years and years.
S
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From:
he said he would treat this as a reg.
GI infec IN CASE that's what it was he wants to nip it in the bud. The
pepcid type pill certainly can't hurt, but Sandy,
I hope that the Flagyl doesn't.
For what it's worth, I do think that Cotton got enough doses in him to help
a lot. His tootsie roll
Maybe they do that because they want you to feel moremainstreamed, if
in case you feel like an anomoly, you will be eating something that resembles
meat. Just a guess.
Many people I know do not care for the taste of veggie products, and I have
to admit that I have tasted more that I don't
There's warty folks here, that's all I'm sayingg.
S
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Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: sarcoma? wart?
Or inbreeding... (Just poking fun)
You did say it's genetically inherited, right?
!
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Gloria, I guess you are tough. On the hands,
around the nails or on
fingertips, and if they are big or deeper, I
understand that they hurt. I
had the one in my hairline frozen, and it only hurt
afterward. The actual
procedure didn't hurt, but it felt
Sherry,
I'm so sorry you lost yourMaizee
G.It sounds like she was very loved, and your decision was a
difficult one, but very well thought out.I hope that she will always
be in your heart to comfort you. I also have a young cat with it, and
whenever I see him sitting looking happy and
Jenn,
My big male tuxedo cat Myca has had a sort of a
wart thing on the top of his head for about 4 years now. It's very hard,
and only involved in the top layer of skin. It's not gotten any bigger,
and the vet confirmed that it's a wart-like growth when we first noticed
it. She said that
I'm glad you have never had a wart~! You
are lucky! My son has had a few, and I have had 2 in my lifetime,
one on the leg as a child,and a flat wart in my hairline a long time
ago.My sonhad to havehis (on hands)cryo'ed
off.That hurts.Warts tend to bleed a lot if
irritated, because they
Gloria, I guess you are tough. On the hands, around the nails or on
fingertips, and if they are big or deeper, I understand that they hurt. I
had the one in my hairline frozen, and it only hurt afterward. The actual
procedure didn't hurt, but it felt like a burn when it thawed, but it was
Thank you Kerry! Happy Thanksgiving to you also! I'm also very thankful
for this list, and every good moment each of you has with your FeLV+ and
also your healthy cats who share your life. I believe there are some real
cat champions on this list, and you have my admiration and support for what
Nina, I don't know
much about holistics, but have always been interested. But I know it's the
holidays and time is scarce, so I won't impose to ask for a crash course, but
I'd love to know what's worked for other FeLV cats. I think we will
hold off on the antibiotics for a while until he's
Hi Rebecca,
Welcome! I'm relatively new to the list as well, but I have been made to
feel very much at home.
I have Cotton, who I talk about a lot (he's orange too, under a year old,
and FeLV+). He has a boy who is my 17-year-old son. There are also 3 adult
established cats, Cricket, Miss and
Hideyo, I am so glad you addressed that, because I wondered for Cotton.
Sandy
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: New Member
Welcome to the list! I am glad that you are able
Michelle, I think you are right, and I think the prudent thing to do is to
watch for a trend in his labs, which might indicateimpaired
functionor disease in the kidneys.Sandy
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Sent: Monday,
Hi Michelle:
My theories were for the stomach issues, not the kidneys. I am afraid
that his kidneys being enlarged is a new finding. However, I agree with
you, he may very well have lymphoma in the kidneys and intestines. His
labs were all normal. So I still need to talk to the regular vet
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Sent
Nina,
I have to thank you, thank you, thank
youbecause I took your advice, and it's totally worked! I did go
to bed after thisemail, and I had a talk with Cricket! My husband
was working late, so I had the perfect opportunity to do it without feeling
silly,and I thought what the heck, I
Cotton and I havesurvivedour first
crisis together. He is fine now, but last night I thought I might lose
him. Friday morning he was his usual bouncy self, just a little less
hungry, like he's beensince he started taking the Metranidazole (for his
bacteria laden stools). I came home from
That my vet(s) don't appear to know much about FeLV
doesn't really surprise me. They didn't know anything about iguanas,
and I've had the same experience with ferrets. Still, CATS??
Gia, I understand your feelings here! I am also a
nurse, but this is all new to me,as I work for a
How cool is that map? I put myself on it! I feel rather official, now!
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From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 3:54 PM
Subject: that wonderful map thingee!
reminder for those who haven't
Patti, I like it even more now that I know the story behind it!
Thanks for telling me about Pee Wee and Mr. Chow. Sandy
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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:57
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Subject: Sandy ~
Hi Gia,
I sensed a lot of love for your cats in your
email.
I am also new to FeLV, and have not been on this
list for very long. I have one young
positive little orange cat, Cottonwho is new to my household and 3
established adults, one of whomhas
testedpositive.My cats are not
Hi Nina,
Thank you for the advice about the Interferon.
I will go back and read the archives about some more about more supportive
measures for Cotton. I'm very impressed that the L-lysine helped.
The Interferon is coming from a vet pharmacy through mail order, and they
gave me a choice of
Nina, I thank you for your kind thoughts. I
dotry to stay very in tune withmy cats.To me, they convey so
much of how they feel in their faces and body.I could tell that Miss
was quite angry about Cotton when he first came. She started avoiding us,
and I could just see the anger brewing in
P.S. to Nina: I loved Kimba's pictures!
So handsome!
Hi Nina:
Cotton is mixed with all the others. He's
only been with us for about 3 months. My established cats are:
Miss-oldest female
Myca-big male,but very sensitive
Cricket-youngest smallest female, but very
feisty.
Miss and Myca tolerate Cotton's lack of
mannersbut Cricket is the
something,
he'd lose his house privileges. He so desperately wanted to be with me
that it finally worked. Now if I see him stalking someone, or getting
that too tense for comfort posture, all I have to do is give him a little
verbal warning and he backs off. If Kimba can adjust
And Nina,when Cotton first came, Itold
the other cats that they needed to help me teach Cotton
manners,that he's just a little boy.
Maybe Cricket isjust overzealous, and took ita little to
theextreme.S
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Nina
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Nina,
LOL, I willtry hissing. It will at
least get their attention off of each other.Usually all I have to do
is a make an appearance, or say her name, and Cricket suddenly becomes
scarce. What seems to work the best is if I can distract her by throwing a
sock or a wad of paper near her.
Patti, I love the sleeping kitty at the end of your post! So cute!
Sandy
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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:37
PM
Subject: Re: Part3: A miracle of
Garfunkle
Hideyo,
I am
Thanks, Nina.
I'm off to bed for a longtalk with
Cricket.
G'nite all!
Sandy
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Nina
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:34
PM
Subject: Re: 20 CATS...
Sometimes I'll shame them into being nicer... You
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Date: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:35 pm
Subject: Re: Lots of cats - Nina
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Nina you know, I still enjoy my dogs and other's dogs, but much of
the time
when I look into their faces, I
Kerry,
It's good and bad to know that these bedroom wars happen.
What I believe happened in my case, is that my little Cricket matured to
adulthood, and felt the need to assert herself.
And I gave you the short version of the bedroom saga. The way things came
to a head, all three cats fought in
Cotton's IFA came back positive, as suspected. The vet said there's not any
need to test him again. She said his bloodwork came back very
viral-looking, with his lymphocytes very high, but no other abnormalities.
The vet tech said they have ordered his Interferon. Anything I should know
about
Title: Message
Kerry, that's exactly what happened to me!I
had two that cuddled until #3 came along. They don't hate each other, but
they don't cuddle, either. Now that there are 4, it seems the original 3
get along a little better.
Sandy
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Nina you know, I still enjoy my dogs and other's dogs, but much of the time
when I look into their faces, I see...I need something from you. (Pet me
now? Gonna eat that? Gonna let me out now? Not now? How bout now?) Could
be I have anxious dogs.
But when I look into the eyes of my cats, I see
Thank you Wendy! I'm very encouraged as well. I should get young Mr.
Cotton's lab results tomorrow. He's been a very good sport about his
metranidazole pills. He's his usual happy bouncy self as soon as it's all
over. Sandy
I think that's so cool, Chris. I'm sure there
are lots of factors that influence how cats behave toward each
other.But Iwould love it if my cats enjoyed each others
company as much as we enjoy them individually. Maybe they do in their own
way, and I am just not privy to it.
Sometimes I
Karolyn, I think you are a smart cat mom! I have read and heard that cats
love it when people think vertically. It makes me smile to remember when my
big shy male tuxedo cat Myca was a kitten, and he first encountered a
houseguest whom we had invited to stay for a week. It was quite unnerving
I'm always amazed when people say that they have lots of cats. I would
probably have a lot more if my husband didn't stop me. I have always had
dogs my entire life, until we were adopted by our first cat, Miss, some
years ago. I remember the exact moment that I knew I loved her. I looked
into
Thank you so much!
S
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 7:05
AM
Subject: Re: Posting pictures
Sandy,Stop it with that Cotton! He's just too
cute!NinaDudes wrote:
Belinda and list:
I put up
Cotton'smuch anticipated visit to the new vet
wasagreat experience.
This vetagreed with me that Cotton's
immediate healthwas the first concern. He got his fecal and his ears
checked.He got his ears cleaned, and hewas found to be loaded
withspirochites sp(?), and he was given a course of
Title: Yahoo! Photos
Wendy and Steph,
I lovedthose pictures of your Cricket!
Helooksso muchlike my Cricket in
the face, but she is not as fuzzy. If you were to take away the fullness
(looks mostly like fur) on his cheeks, then you'd have my
Cricket. I especially love the oneChristmas
Belinda and list:
I put up some pictures of Cotton. Be sure to visit!
They are a little blurry because I took them with my phone. More to come.
Wendy, will try to find some of my Cricket.
Sandy
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Thank you Belinda. I think so, too. :) I don't know if you can tell from
his pics, but the lymph nodes in his neck are quite visible.
Sandy
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From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: Re:
Ok, now that I have the hang of it, I added a few more pics of Cotton for a
total of 6.
Thank you for looking. It means a lot for you to *meet* him.
Sandy
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From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 8:48 PM
Hi Wendy:
First, I'm so sorry about you losing Cricket. I am also glad that you got
to be there with him for the end. I have always loved the name Cricket, and
meant to ask you why you named him that.
I named my little sweet pea Cricket because she is so shiny and black, yet,
in the bright
Jenn, I have a few theories.
My stepdaughter Jamie made her decision very suddenly to move back home
(gave us a couple of days notice) and had already exposed her cat usually
indoor adult cat Kuma (who died) to Cotton for a month or so prior to the
move. They cuddled and groomed each other and
I wonder if there is a way to test for an antibody titer level in Cricket as
well as my other two adult cats?
I actually have considered using Feliway for Cricket's dislike of Cotton. I
wonder if anyone has had luck with it? I find I have been able to lessen
the frequency of her attacks on him
. --
Chief Dan George
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From: Dudes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2005 10:48 pm
Subject: was intro now is health issues
I sure hope you all don't get tired of my newbie questions. If
anyone would rather email me to discuss off list, I would welcome
-Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and
you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know
them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one
destroys." --Chief Dan George- Original Message
Absolutely no offense taken. I just wasn't sure if you were serious
or not.I just don't know this vet very well,because my vet of choice
quit her practice recently.The main reason was over the people and not her
patients.
And hey! Shooting is as Texan as cowboy boots.I have a
friend who
I sure hope you all don't get tired of my
newbie questions.If anyone wouldrather email me to discuss off list,
I would welcomeit, at least point me in the right direction so I can read
up on them to help educate myself. I feel like there is much to know, and
I am a sponge. So (deep breathe)
Thank you everyone for your very kind welcome, and for taking time to offer
suggestions. I feel better already!
My main focus right now is the little orange guy, Cotton. I don't want to
treat him as if he isn't going to be with us for a long time. I would like
to see him eventually neutered
When I was checking out at my vets office after she saw little orange
Cotton, the tech who checked me out told me how they acquired a litter of 10
kittens at the office. They proceeded to test them, and when they found one
who was positive for FeLV,, which was like, the 8th or 9th one, they
I agree that this vet needs some serious education, but I try not to burn
bridges, as much as I would like to. This might be a goodopportunity
to save more cats fromher ill advice.She will definitely not
get any more of my business, and I will certainly tell her why. And I have
a big family
Hello everyone,
I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself and tell about why I am
here. I appreciate you taking a minute to read about us.
My name is Sandy and until recently I've had 3 adult cats who I love like
fuzzy children. I have a stepdaughter who moved home this summer for a
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