Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread tim-cates
just a quick thought (or two) from a fairly active trumpet player - I find the tonal differences between C and Bb to be negligible in most situations - so unless the composer/conductor insists on a specific horn for reasons of timbre, I play whatever horn makes the most sense from a practical p

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread Raymond Horton
I suppose "serious" is a risky word to use in describing professional musicians. I was using "serious" as you use "classical." Insert "classical" into that first paragraph below to get my meaning. And, yes, I tend to think in orchestral terms first. When the good folks here started this thread o

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread Raymond Horton
> On 10 Jan 2004, at 01:57 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: > > > No, we mean tenor clef for horns, NOT treble clef 8ba. 8ba treble > > clef is not used in in instrumental scores, (nor should it be). From: "Darcy James Argue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Er, no. That's how this whole thread started, actual

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score - British Brass Band tangent

2004-01-10 Thread Raymond Horton
The old British Brass Band system actually illustrates the practicality of transposing instruments. Forgetting trombones for a moment, just think about it: everyone in the room, from Eb soprano cornet down to Bb Bass [tuba] has the same notation and fingering for every note. Players can, and ofte

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 10 Jan 2004, at 01:57 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: No, we mean tenor clef for horns, NOT treble clef 8ba. 8ba treble clef is not used in in instrumental scores, (nor should it be). Er, no. That's how this whole thread started, actually. It's becoming more common -- and is quite acceptable --

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread Raymond Horton
Not who, but what - migraines. I've been fighting them since last May. I'd had a good week, too but last night, at a restaurant, right before a very demanding concert, I looked up, just as the birthday table next to me flashed a camera, directly at my most light-sensitive left eye. It's still qu

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 10, 2004, at 10:57 AM, Raymond Horton wrote: Please don't take offense, but you are being a bad example for your friends arguing for C scores. Um. Perhaps you're getting the attributions confused, but you addressed this comment to me. I may be a bad example for my friends in other ways,

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread John.Howell
At 2:01 PM -0500 1/10/04, Raymond Horton wrote: John, you excerpted only part of my reply. You left out this: In any commercial situation, Bb trumpets are the norm. Higher keys can be asked of pros. RH No, I saw and understood it, but took it as a mixed message. The first sentence is quite tru

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread Raymond Horton
John, you excerpted only part of my reply. You left out this: In any commercial situation, Bb trumpets are the norm. Higher keys can be asked of pros. RH - Original Message - From: "John.Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:57 PM Subj

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread Raymond Horton
No, we mean tenor clef for horns, NOT treble clef 8ba. 8ba treble clef is not used in in instrumental scores, (nor should it be). And viola stays in alto clef in a C score, and tenor clefs can be used freely, too. Please don't take offense, but you are being a bad example for your friends arguin

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread John.Howell
Ray Horton wrote: If you are writing for professional, serious players, C trumpet is the standard instument. One could still write for Bb trumpet, and many do, but players will normally play the part on C trumpet unless there is a good musical reason in the part to do otherwise. Smaller trumpets

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread Horace Brock
Conventions are often very strong, just as custom has more influence on everyday life than law. Take, for instance, the British style brass band. ALL of the parts in a brass band score are notated in treble clef, in either Bb transposing or Eb transposing. True, most of the instruments are either

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-10 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:19 PM -0500 1/09/04, David H. Bailey wrote: Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 10:46 AM -0500 1/09/04, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 10:02 AM 1/9/2004, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: Your last sentence illustrates my point. Why do trombones (and tubas) get off easily, while trumpets have to transpose?

Re: [Finale] Ricoh 2610

2004-01-10 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Craig Parmerlee wrote: Yeah, I love [the Ricoh AP 2610] too. I haven't been so successful doing 2-up printing (two 8-1/2x11 portrait pages of music side by side on an 11x17 sheet) with Finale. This works OK with Microsoft Word, but I haven't found a combination that works with Finale 2004.