At 06:52 PM 3/18/2004, David W. Fenton wrote:
>Hmm. The values I see when I check my current file are:
>
> 1024
> 0.29167
> 1.6179
>
>Having 84 for the second value is very problematic, and obviously
>doesn't work.
You've got inches selected as your default measurement. Many of us who play
with
On 18 Mar 2004 at 20:57, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> On 18.03.2004 19:13 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
>
> >> Don't use spacing libraries in 2k3, use the spacing values. They
> >> work better, more reliably, and are easier to adjust.
> >
> > Sorry, but I have no idea what this means.
> >
> > What sp
On 18.03.2004 19:13 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
>> Don't use spacing libraries in 2k3, use the spacing values. They work
>> better, more reliably, and are easier to adjust.
>
> Sorry, but I have no idea what this means.
>
> What spacing values? Where? How do I get the right ones for Maestro
> Wid
On Mar 18, 2004, at 10:38 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
Well, you can tell by starting with it unspaced, check for beat
chart, then space using metatool 4. If there's a beat chart then and
it includes handles for the hidden note values, then it's doing what
Johannes said (so far as I understand him),
On 18 Mar 2004 at 10:18, Mark D Lew wrote:
> On Mar 18, 2004, at 7:44 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > Now, can we get a rundown of which versions exhibit the problem? It
> > looks like it's still there in Finale2K4, if Johannes is seeing it.
> > I think somebody had Finale2K2 and said the proble
On Mar 18, 2004, at 7:44 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
Now, can we get a rundown of which versions exhibit the problem? It
looks like it's still there in Finale2K4, if Johannes is seeing it. I
think somebody had Finale2K2 and said the problem was there? Can
anyone confirm this?
In FinMac 2k2 blank no
On 18 Mar 2004 at 18:32, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> On 18.03.2004 16:52 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
>
> > Is there an independent spacing library that needs to be imported
> > separate from the Document Options library?
>
> Don't use spacing libraries in 2k3, use the spacing values. They work
> be
On 18.03.2004 16:52 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
> Is there an independent spacing library that needs to be imported
> separate from the Document Options library?
Don't use spacing libraries in 2k3, use the spacing values. They work
better, more reliably, and are easier to adjust.
Johannes
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At 10:52 AM 3/18/2004, David W. Fenton wrote:
>This is another area where I think Finale is horridly messed up, in
>the way libraries work. I shouldn't have to create files just for the
>purpose of loading libraries into them just so I can then save them
>out to a library file for loading into othe
On 18 Mar 2004 at 8:52, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> On 17.03.2004 20:06 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
>
> >> There are work arounds. However, they involve having to change
> >> layer and/or Spacing options before spacing the measures in
> >> question.
> >
> > Actually, there really is no workaround.
On 18 Mar 2004 at 8:52, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> On 17.03.2004 20:01 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
>
> > I don't understand why blank notation should affect spacing. Perhaps
> > other kinds of alternate notation should affect spacing, but blank
> > notation worked fine in WinFin97 in regard to spac
On 17.03.2004 20:06 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
>> There are work arounds. However, they involve having to change layer
>> and/or Spacing options before spacing the measures in question.
>
> Actually, there really is no workaround. I can't turn off spacing for
> layer 1, because all the other musi
On 17.03.2004 20:01 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
> Well, first off, I have no intention of upgrading Finale beyond
> WinFin2K3 until such time as Coda implements some kind of key escrow
> program to guarantee that if they go out of business their
> applications will continue to be usable.
Sorry, I
On 17.03.2004 20:01 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
> I don't understand why blank notation should affect spacing. Perhaps
> other kinds of alternate notation should affect spacing, but blank
> notation worked fine in WinFin97 in regard to spacing.
Actually, it doesn't work either way. It doesn't even
Thanks, Allen.
BF
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(BTW, in 2004, one can turn on
(BTW, in 2004, one can turn on the viewing of hidden notes,
> but it's displayed in a very faint gray color that can be hard to
> read.)
>
Is there a place where this can be turned off? I can't find it.
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At 2:17 PM -0500 3/17/04, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 17 Mar 2004 at 9:35, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
At 7:51 PM -0500 3/16/04, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
>Why should blank notation be used in spacing?
So that chord symbols attached to blank items can be taken into
account for spacing. So that h
On 17 Mar 2004 at 9:35, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
> At 7:51 PM -0500 3/16/04, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >
> >Why should blank notation be used in spacing?
>
> So that chord symbols attached to blank items can be taken into
> account for spacing. So that hidden items could add extra space
> wit
On 17 Mar 2004 at 10:27, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> On 15.03.2004 23:53 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
>
> > I just upgraded an older file (I think it began life as 3.52, was
> > converted to WinFin97, now into WinFin2K3), and I'm having fits with
> > the spacing for any measure with blank notation in
On 17 Mar 2004 at 8:39, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> On 17.03.2004 1:51 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
>
> > Well, you've got to have something in the blank notation layer that
> > is going to take up a lot of space, like the written-out notes for a
> > trill. That's where I'm getting all the problems,
At 7:51 PM -0500 3/16/04, David W. Fenton wrote:
Why should blank notation be used in spacing?
So that chord symbols attached to blank items can be taken into
account for spacing. So that hidden items could add extra space
without appearing, to make room for things that you need to add as
grap
On 15.03.2004 23:53 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
> I just upgraded an older file (I think it began life as 3.52, was
> converted to WinFin97, now into WinFin2K3), and I'm having fits with
> the spacing for any measure with blank notation in layer 1 and notes
> in layer 4 (that's how I implement orna
On 17.03.2004 1:51 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
> Well, you've got to have something in the blank notation layer that
> is going to take up a lot of space, like the written-out notes for a
> trill. That's where I'm getting all the problems, with ornaments for
> playback.
David,
do you really need
At 7:51 PM -0500 3/16/04, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 16 Mar 2004 at 19:36, Rich Caldwell wrote:
I'm not sure why you used a blank notation staff style in the first
place (maybe there weren't as many layer options in '97 or I'm missing
a purpose for it here), . . .
There wasn't a spacing problem
On 16 Mar 2004 at 20:32, Williams, Jim wrote:
> Pardon me; I've come into the middle of this. Have you considered...
>
> Options=>Document Options=>Layers=>"This layer affects music spacing"
> for the "offending" layer should be UNCHECKED. Is it?
If that worked on a measure-by-measure basis, tha
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On 16 Mar 2004 at 19:36, Rich Caldwell wrote:
> I'm not sure wh
On 16 Mar 2004 at 19:36, Rich Caldwell wrote:
> I'm not sure why you used a blank notation staff style in the first
> place (maybe there weren't as many layer options in '97 or I'm missing
> a purpose for it here), . . .
There wasn't a spacing problem in WinFin97.
> . . . but even by using your
David,
I'm not sure why you used a blank notation staff style in the first
place (maybe there weren't as many layer options in '97 or I'm
missing a purpose for it here), but even by using your method I
couldn't duplicate the problem (MacFin2k4). However, I have a
suggestion that might work if
I've never bothered with staff styles meself and, you are moving swiftly
beyond my FinMAC 2002 system 9 knowledge, so I can't much help you here.
You can hear I'm even having trouble getting that out. I must say I have
noticed allot of non-solvable problems cropping up where none existed afor
On 16 Mar 2004 at 14:10, gj.berg wrote:
> David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> >I just upgraded an older file (I think it began life as 3.52, was
> >converted to WinFin97, now into WinFin2K3), and I'm having fits with
> >the spacing for any measure with blank notation in layer 1 and notes
> >in layer 4 (th
One suggestion is turn on active layer only - go to 4 then do spacing
jerry
David W. Fenton wrote:
I just upgraded an older file (I think it began life as 3.52, was
converted to WinFin97, now into WinFin2K3), and I'm having fits with
the spacing for any measure with blank notation in layer 1 a
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