Re: [Finale] Lyrics input Issue

2004-06-06 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Harold wrote: 1) Enter all the lyrics for the highest part before moving to lower parts. This assures that the order of entries will show up in the Edit box in the right order. It is my experience, going back to WINFIN 2k, that it is more important to enter the first syllable for each staff in

Re: [Finale] Lyrics input Issue

2004-06-06 Thread Harold Owen
Dear folks, Having just returned from a lovely week's vacation, I've enjoyed the current thread. I haven't the slightest idea how it evolved from "Finale vs. Sibelius." Anyway, I deal with choral music most of the time, and I've settled on Type Into Score - having used Click Assignment after en

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
I wrote: OK, but the problem is not with type into score, it is with the edit dialog box, which does not properly adjust syllable assignments when one uses the edit dialog box in a manner which changes the total syllable count. to which Mark replied Correct, except for your word "properly". Th

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:13 PM 6/6/2004, John Howell wrote: >Where? How!? That might make it almost useable!!! Spelling is under Tools | Options | Spelling & Grammar -- uncheck "Check Spelling as You Type". Most other auto things are under Tools | AutoCorrect. This is Word 2000 on Win; YMMV on other platforms or

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread John Howell
At 7:50 PM -0400 6/4/04, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 06:55 PM 06/04/2004, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: For example, I HATE the way Microsoft Word makes assumptions about what I want done with my typing, like "correcting" my spelling without telling me, or putting bullets or numbers when I hit carriage r

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 6, 2004, at 5:01 AM, dhbailey wrote: Style sheets would be a fantastic addition to Finale! I could be wrong, but my sense is that incorporating style sheets directly into Finale is too impractical to even consider as a feature request to MakeMusic. What is less impractical, I think, is to

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 6, 2004, at 6:14 AM, dhbailey wrote: [answering Noel Stoutenberg, regarding Type in Score entry of lyrics] and I'd ask some examples to explain this "quirky" behavior, as type into score seems pretty straightforward to me, Select a lyric type (verse, chorus, section), and number, and type

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread John Howell
At 6:55 PM -0400 6/4/04, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 2:00 PM -0700 6/04/04, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Layout would probably NOT be linked, but NOTES would. Does that make sense? I can't count how many times I've changed something in a score and FORGOT to update it in a part. Re extracting the part

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David Bailey wrote: I know that when I have used type into score I have run into problems in editing the lyrics afterwards and in repairing mistakes I have made. I stopped using it after repeatedly trying to use it and not being able to make it work correctly. I simply use the Edit Lyrics and

[Finale] Re: Special Part Extraction

2004-06-06 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 8:33 AM -0700 6/06/04, Brian Williams wrote: Good luck trying this out. Let me know what you think! Over the years I've developed many time-saving tricks involving this method feel free to email me if you have any questions. Brian Brian, I'm replying to the list because I think there are others

[Finale] was Score/Part Linkages

2004-06-06 Thread Chuck Israels
Chuck Israels wrote: Sitting here with Dave Berger - showing him this discussion around which I lurk, and he suggested that having a check box choice might be a useful solution: "Do you want to change the parts, or not?" (Dave is still working with pencils - sometimes faster than we can, and will

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread dhbailey
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: David Fenton wrote: Well, as much as I complained about lyrics in my first big project with them (in August 2002), now that I learned from all the gurus here on the list, I find it pretty darned easy to use. The main point: DON'T USE TYPE INTO SCORE Once you figure that

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David Fenton wrote: Well, as much as I complained about lyrics in my first big project with them (in August 2002), now that I learned from all the gurus here on the list, I find it pretty darned easy to use. The main point: DON'T USE TYPE INTO SCORE Once you figure that out, it's pretty easy t

Re: [Finale] Pessimistic?

2004-06-06 Thread dhbailey
Richard Yates wrote: I realized that we are into June now - the usual time of year that speculation begins about the release and anticipated new features of the next version of Finale. Unlike other years, however, a maintenance updater to fix the most glaring bugs and steps-backward of the last ver

Re: [Finale] Score/Part linkages

2004-06-06 Thread dhbailey
Chuck Israels wrote: Sitting here with Dave Berger - showing him this discussion around which I lurk, and he suggested that having a check box choice might be a useful solution: "Do you want to change the parts, or not?" (Dave is still working with pencils - sometimes faster than we can, and wi

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Jun 2004 at 22:17, Mark D Lew wrote: On Jun 4, 2004, at 9:29 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Lyric tool works well. Really? Lyric tool works well if you know what you're doing, or if you never do anything complicated, but it has lots of pit-traps that the unwray can fall in

[Finale] Re: Special Part Extraction

2004-06-06 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:08 AM -0700 6/06/04, Brian Williams wrote: You can just as easily update parts (using copy & paste) that have been extracted using the SPE method as those that have been formatted using the "normal" method. There is no need to undo and redo SPE in order to revise or paste copied material from

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius - Review in Macworld July 2004 Issue

2004-06-06 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: [snip]> Indeed, properly it should be implemented like stylesheets for web pages. You can change the entire look of a web page (not just colors and fonts) by changing to a different stylesheet. If Finale files stored a score layout that defined systems and page layout, and

Re: [Finale] Re: Special Part Extraction

2004-06-06 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:17 PM -0400 6/05/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Chris, I don't think you're getting what Brian is talking about here. I haven't actually tried his method yet -- frankly, it never occurred to me -- but boy does it ever look like a time-saver! No, I got it. Like he said, his files will be

Re: Lyrics [was Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius ...]

2004-06-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jun 5, 2004, at 8:18 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: [responding to David Fenton's suggestion] DON'T USE TYPE INTO SCORE Once you figure that out, it's pretty easy to use. which I must say, does not match my experience at all. After several years of creating choral music in various layout pattern

[Finale] Re: Special Part Extraction

2004-06-06 Thread Brian Williams
Christopher BJ Smith wrote: > "Normal" part extraction, obviously, doesn't allow automatic updates. > However, the "Express" method (I actually use a streamlined version > myself, unless I really need the other benefits) allows you to update > the score once, then copy and paste from the score to e