shirling & neueweise wrote:
christopher, in all the cases i have seen using what are now commonly
given the unfortunate name of "irrational" time signatures (*), the
"whole" value implied is the whole note. 1/6 is indeed one-sixth of a
whole note (quarter note triplet, as you wrote).
re metr
christopher, in all the cases i have seen using what are now commonly
given the unfortunate name of "irrational" time signatures (*), the
"whole" value implied is the whole note. 1/6 is indeed one-sixth of
a whole note (quarter note triplet, as you wrote).
re metric modulation: is it really e
On Jul 13, 2004, at 7:53 PM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
Hmm, if you are right, then I have been misinterpreting these measures
for a long time in a variety of situations.
As the conversation continues, it appears that I am *not* right
mdl
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At 6:15 PM -0700 7/13/04, Mark D Lew wrote:
On Jul 13, 2004, at 6:07 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
I've read this a few times, and it still doesn't make sense. If a
sixth note is equal to a dotted eighth, that would make the time
signature 1/6 equivalent to 3/8.
That's right.
And from what I know of m
At 10:43 PM 07/13/2004, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
>I think Rob's math was a little off. A sixth note
>is equal to one quarter in a quarter-note triplet. A twelfth note is
>one eighth-note triplet.
Ah, yes, that makes more sense. Thanks.
Aaron.
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At 10:05 PM 07/13/2004, Richard Yates wrote:
>>I've read this a few times, and it still doesn't make sense. If a sixth
>note is equal to a dotted eighth, that would make the time signature 1/6
>equivalent to 3/8.
>
>No. 3/16.
Yes, you're right -- I'm being a little cross-eyed here tonight.
>I think
At 09:15 PM 07/13/2004, Mark D Lew wrote:
>> And from what I know of math and music, that doesn't seem right to me.
>
>It's not supposed to match normal math.
A quarter note is 1/4 of a whole note. Isn't a sixth note 1/6 of a whole
note? And if not, why not? (I'm not being facetious -- I don't hav
At 9:07 PM -0400 7/13/04, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 01:55 PM 7/13/2004, Rob Deemer wrote:
I can attest to the fact that unusual time signatures are becoming more
prevalent - we
just performed a work by Thomas Adés that had 1/6, 4/6, 4/12 among other
time signatures.
At first I thought it was simply a
At 11:23 PM +0100 7/13/04, Owain Sutton wrote:
I'm wondering whether I should consider emailing composers who have
certainly written such signatures in Finale, and asking how they did
it.
Heh, heh! Around these parts, they probably sent their pencil score
to jef and asked him to do it!
Christo
At 8:43 PM +0100 7/13/04, Ken Moore wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Christopher BJ Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
At 1:17 PM -0400 7/12/04, John Howell wrote:
Pardon me for stating the obvious, but those signatures are
meaningless. We do not have a "10th" note or a "24th" note in our
not
>I've read this a few times, and it still doesn't make sense. If a sixth
note is equal to a dotted eighth, that would make the time signature 1/6
equivalent to 3/8.
No. 3/16.
> And from what I know of math and music, that doesn't
seem right to me. Putting it a different way, 6 sixth notes gives y
On Jul 13, 2004, at 6:07 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
I've read this a few times, and it still doesn't make sense. If a
sixth note is equal to a dotted eighth, that would make the time
signature 1/6 equivalent to 3/8.
That's right.
And from what I know of math and music, that doesn't seem right to me
At 01:55 PM 7/13/2004, Rob Deemer wrote:
>I can attest to the fact that unusual time signatures are becoming more
>prevalent - we
>just performed a work by Thomas Adés that had 1/6, 4/6, 4/12 among other
>time signatures.
>At first I thought it was simply a way of making things even more difficult
On 13 Jul 2004 at 16:21, John Howell wrote:
> Wasn't it Schoenberg
> who wrote that there's still a lot of mileage left in the C major
> chord?
I think it was something like "there are still lots of pieces to be
written in the key of C Major."
--
David W. Fentonhttp://
John Howell wrote:
At 10:37 PM +0100 7/12/04, Owain Sutton wrote:
John Howell wrote:
At 9:47 PM +0100 7/11/04, Owain Sutton wrote:
Yep, 2/10. Or 7/24. I'm not getting into the explanation of what
they mean right nowbut...
Basically, I want to substitute different numbers for the '8' or
'1
shirling & neueweise wrote:
hi owain, dennis explained most of it already. if you want it to cover
the existing time sigs (there seems to be no other way to do this at
present), you'll need to create (in the shape expression designer) a
white filled box with no border, barely wider than the e
we still haven't
ansswered the original question: how does one substitute
non-traditional numbers into the
lower section of the time signature?
=
Rob Deemer
Rather than the ponderous work-around someone else suggested, I would
recommend you get yourself a copy of the MetricFonts set from
At 11:01 PM 7/13/04 +0200, you wrote:
>Don't reply all, it is not necessary any more to get it posted back to the
>list. The list now has a reply to header.
Unfortunately, in my version of Eudora with this list, "reply" shows only
"you wrote" (as above) and no attribution. :(
Dennis
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Christopher BJ Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>At 1:17 PM -0400 7/12/04, John Howell wrote:
>>Pardon me for stating the obvious, but those signatures are
>>meaningless. We do not have a "10th" note or a "24th" note in our
>>notational system,
>
>
>We sort of
Javier:
All the design books I have read forbid the use of underlined text.
In the
first example that you give bold would be better. I have not found a
single
case where a combination of size, bold and italic is not enough.
This is too doctrinaire. Here are some perfectly legitimate uses of
u
On Jul 13, 2004, at 1:36 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote:
Interesting suggestion. I've just tried it. In the ETF file, the line
that describes the time signature reads: "^MS(1) 4 1024 240 0 0 0"
(4/4 time).
Ah, that's very unfortunate. I was hoping it would encode the value of
the actual character di
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:36:40 +0200, Barbara Touburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting suggestion. I've just tried it. In the ETF file, the line
> that describes the time signature reads: "^MS(1) 4 1024 240 0 0 0" (4/4
> time). I changed the 4 to 2 and the 1024 (quarter) to 490, one tenth of
On 13.07.2004 22:30 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote
>> Unfortunately, unless the G3 is given a USB card, there isn't a way to plug
>> in the flash card.
>
> I see. Then it doesn't have a serial port or PCMCIA either? I have all
> three adapter styles -- RS-232 (small form factor), PCMCIA, and USB
On 13.07.2004 22:31 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote
> Sorry for the occasional double posts. When I "reply all" in order to get
> the attribution, I get two copies address to the Finale list, and forget to
> delete one now & again.
Don't reply all, it is not necessary any more to get it posted ba
On Jul 13, 2004, at 12:56 PM, dhbailey wrote:
I really don't care what composers want to write - if it makes sense
to them, let them write it. If it makes sense to others, it'll get
played, and if it doesn't, it won't get played.
BUT, I would love to see a feature added to Finale's time signatu
Several people have recommended installing an Ethernet card -- and
that's probably the best way to go. If you want to try to use a
USB-to-serial adapter cable, I _think_ you may have a more complex
job in store. I've read that some people are able to print to older
serial port printers (to some
Interesting suggestion. I've just tried it. In the ETF file, the line
that describes the time signature reads: "^MS(1) 4 1024 240 0 0 0" (4/4
time). I changed the 4 to 2 and the 1024 (quarter) to 490, one tenth of
a whole note, assuming that Dennis would want to divide a whole note
into 10. I i
Sorry for the occasional double posts. When I "reply all" in order to get
the attribution, I get two copies address to the Finale list, and forget to
delete one now & again.
Dennis
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At 10:21 PM 7/13/04 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>On 13.07.2004 20:34 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote
>
>> There are different kinds of interfaces for the little flash card readers
>> ($10-$20), so it's easy to pass a 256MB flash card ($40-$60) card from
>> machine to machine.
>
>Unfortunately, u
On 13.07.2004 20:31 Uhr, John Howell wrote
> You're right, if anyone can help you, it's probably someone here. I
> find myself in the same kind of predicament, unfortunately. Our
> university upgrades our computers on a 4-year cycle, which isn't
> quite short enough. I have a lot of files on a
On 13.07.2004 20:34 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote
> There are different kinds of interfaces for the little flash card readers
> ($10-$20), so it's easy to pass a 256MB flash card ($40-$60) card from
> machine to machine.
Unfortunately, unless the G3 is given a USB card, there isn't a way to plu
At 10:37 PM +0100 7/12/04, Owain Sutton wrote:
John Howell wrote:
At 9:47 PM +0100 7/11/04, Owain Sutton wrote:
Yep, 2/10. Or 7/24. I'm not getting into the explanation of what
they mean right nowbut...
Basically, I want to substitute different numbers for the '8' or
'16' displayed, while
>They are the most commonly used fingerings indications for right hand
>in guitar writing. I would also put them in italic.
>
>Éric
>
>
>Le 13 juil. 2004, à 05:16, Giovanni Andreani a écrit :
>
>> What I usually use is:
>>
>> p - for thumb
>> i - for forefinger
>> m - for middle finger
>> a - for
At 3:16 PM -0400 7/13/04, John Howell wrote:
At 3:23 PM -0400 7/11/04, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
Hi all,
A little question in FinMac2003:
I need to write a unison on a single stem; that is, two noteheads
on the same pitch, one on the "wrong" side of the stem. It's a D
double stop for a violin s
Allen Fisher wrote:
Yep. Definitely get a powered hub. They're cheap. As much as I hate Belkin,
the one sitting at my desk here performs wonderfully...
Just curious, why would you hate Belkin? I've got a Belkin powered hub
that works wonderfully, I've got Belkin networking cables that work
wond
shirling & neueweise wrote:
hi owain, dennis explained most of it already. if you want it to cover
the existing time sigs (there seems to be no other way to do this at
present), you'll need to create (in the shape expression designer) a
white filled box with no border, barely wider than the ex
On Jul 13, 2004, at 10:50 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I'm running an iMac which has 2 USB ports. I will want to connect my
printer, keyboard, and MIDI device. Is there some kind of switchbox or
splitter (or whatever it may be called) to solve the problem?
I assume you've checked that your keyb
On Jul 13, 2004, at 11:42 AM, shirling & neueweise wrote:
hi owain, dennis explained most of it already. if you want it to
cover the existing time sigs (there seems to be no other way to do
this at present), [...]
This calls for a feature request. The key, I think, is to ask for
something tha
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi John,
Your beige G3 can communicate quite easily with your TiBook, and the
different OS's are simply not a problem. There are any number of
options (some of which have been discussed already):
1) Connect them directly with an Ethernet crossover cable, then
connect v
At 4:43 PM +0100 7/12/04, Javier Ruiz wrote:
All the design books I have read forbid the use of underlined text. In the
first example that you give bold would be better. I have not found a single
case where a combination of size, bold and italic is not enough.
I usually see cresc. and decresc. in
Hi John,
Your beige G3 can communicate quite easily with your TiBook, and the
different OS's are simply not a problem. There are any number of
options (some of which have been discussed already):
1) Connect them directly with an Ethernet crossover cable, then connect
via AppleTalk or TCP/IP.
At 3:23 PM -0400 7/11/04, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
Hi all,
A little question in FinMac2003:
I need to write a unison on a single stem; that is, two noteheads on
the same pitch, one on the "wrong" side of the stem. It's a D double
stop for a violin section, so two stems would not be appropriate
Yep. Definitely get a powered hub. They're cheap. As much as I hate Belkin,
the one sitting at my desk here performs wonderfully...
On 7/13/04 1:16 PM, "Johannes Gebauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 13.07.2004 19:50 Uhr, Dean M. Estabrook wrote
>
>> I'm running an iMac which has 2 USB ports
hi owain, dennis explained most of it already. if you want it to
cover the existing time sigs (there seems to be no other way to do
this at present), you'll need to create (in the shape expression
designer) a white filled box with no border, barely wider than the
existing numbers, and overlay
First, what type of G3. Does it have USB? If it doesn't, and it has a
PCI slot, I'd suggest getting a cheap (like $20) USB card from
MacSales.com, and then you have a couple of options on transferring
files. You could then get a HD that has USB and move files that way, or
you could get a CDR dr
At 02:31 PM 7/13/04 -0400, John Howell wrote:
>At 8:52 PM -0800 7/3/04, Dean Estabrook wrote:
>>(b) If I do receive a usuable version of 2004 from Coda, how do I transfer
>>my old Finale files to the new I Mac? My old computer only backs up via a
>>Zip Drive, and the I Mac only accepts CD roms. The
At 8:52 PM -0800 7/3/04, Dean Estabrook wrote:
(b) If I do receive a usuable version of 2004 from Coda, how do I transfer
my old Finale files to the new I Mac? My old computer only backs up via a
Zip Drive, and the I Mac only accepts CD roms. There may be an easy answer
to this, but I'm way to stup
On 13.07.2004 19:50 Uhr, Dean M. Estabrook wrote
> I'm running an iMac which has 2 USB ports. I will want to connect my
> printer, keyboard, and MIDI device. Is there some kind of switchbox or
> splitter (or whatever it may be called) to solve the problem?
A USB Hub. Make sure you get a powered
It's called a HUB. They are like $10. Go to some computer store (Office
Depot, Costco, CompUSA, Apple Store, etc,etc) and get one.
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I'm running an iMac which has 2 USB ports. I will want to connect my
printer, keyboard, and MIDI device. Is there some kind of switchbox or
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:50:17 -0700, Dean M. Estabrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running an iMac which has 2 USB ports. I will want to connect my
> printer, keyboard, and MIDI device. Is there some kind of switchbox or
> splitter (or whatever it may be called) to solve the problem?
What yo
I can attest to the fact that unusual time signatures are becoming more prevalent - we
just performed a work by Thomas Adés that had 1/6, 4/6, 4/12 among other time
signatures.
At first I thought it was simply a way of making things even more difficult for the
performers, but after contemplation I
I'm running an iMac which has 2 USB ports. I will want to connect my
printer, keyboard, and MIDI device. Is there some kind of switchbox or
splitter (or whatever it may be called) to solve the problem?
Dean
technology is a fickle mistresscan't live with hercan't live
witout her. Upgra
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:36:54 +0200, Johannes Gebauer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Normally it shouldn't be necessary to know the printer's ip, unless you need
> to use TCP/IP. AppleTalk is self-configuring, just connecting the printer
> should make it visible to OS X.
That's true; I forgot. The m
On 13.07.2004 17:06 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote
> Bob: I use an HP 4MV with an eMac and OS X 10.2.8. It's connected via
> Ethernet. If you use the Ethernet port on your computer for something
> else (e.g. broadband internet) you'll have to get some sort of a
> router. No matter what, if you're going
At 8:06 AM -0700 7/13/04, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:01:34 -0700, Bob Florence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a seven year old HP 4mv printer with a serial port and a new
Mac G5 which uses USB ports. Can I get them to work together? I am
using MacFin 2004c with OS X 10.3.4.
Richard,
The best method I've come up with so far is: In Staff Attributes / Items
to Display uncheck Augmentation Dots. Then use the Articulation Tool to
place a dot next to the stem.
Servicable but more trouble than I like. I may try your mostly invisible
staff idea to see if I can get it t
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:01:34 -0700, Bob Florence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a seven year old HP 4mv printer with a serial port and a new
> Mac G5 which uses USB ports. Can I get them to work together? I am
> using MacFin 2004c with OS X 10.3.4.
> I also have an HP 5110. I would like the 4
You are right to say that one can find both italic and plain text equally in guitar right hand fingerings.
The publishers I work with are using italic for these. As a guitarist I find italic fingerings to be just looking right. No special rule to my knowledge. I would not say plain text fingerings
>They are the most commonly used fingerings indications for right hand
>in guitar writing. I would also put them in italic.
>
>Éric
>
>
>Le 13 juil. 2004, à 05:16, Giovanni Andreani a écrit :
>
>> What I usually use is:
>>
>> p - for thumb
>> i - for forefinger
>> m - for middle finger
>> a - for
On Jul 13, 2004, at 5:16 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote:
Hello, this is a request for the list's experts on guitar parts.
I'm working on a transcription for guitar orchestra, and would like to
know which are the most common used right fingering indications for
classical guitar parts.
What I usually us
They are the most commonly used fingerings indications for right hand in guitar writing. I would also put them in italic.
Éric
Le 13 juil. 2004, à 05:16, Giovanni Andreani a écrit :
What I usually use is:
p - for thumb
i - for forefinger
m - for middle finger
a - for ring finger___
Hello, this is a request for the list's experts on guitar parts.
I'm working on a transcription for guitar orchestra, and would like to
know which are the most common used right fingering indications for
classical guitar parts.
What I usually use is:
p - for thumb
i - for forefinger
m - for middl
just installed 2004c for OS9 and am wondering if TGTools for 2004 is
an OSX-only version... please say no? download file name is
"TGToolsX.sit" (v2.28f): i have had too much dumbputer weirdness in
the past months to have the courage to simply install it try and see
if it will work. what abou
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