Re: [Finale] Piano arp. across

2004-07-23 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jul 22, 2004, at 6:17 PM, Harold Owen wrote: We're talking about a rolled chord that involves both hands and both staves, a common occurrence. Actually what you describe in your first paragraph works only for one staff, I believe, so it will not work for the whole chord unless you enter it in

Re: [Finale] Text Block Bug Enigma Solved!

2004-07-23 Thread Dennis W. Manasco
At 5:54 am -0400 7/22/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: One of the smart, smart cookies at Coda sent this to me yesterday: The overwrite problem happens if you have a text block OPEN for editing and auto save kicks in. Any text block that shares the same "Raw TextID" in all open documents will be change

Re: [Finale] [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-23 Thread Andrew Stiller
But Andrew Stiller´s book on instrumentation uses the first one you mentioned and not the second. At the time I wrote it, Helmholtz was *the* international standard for pitch designations. The whole current mess strikes me as a prime example of what happens when you ignore the maxim "if it ain't

[Finale] font for registrations

2004-07-23 Thread Cecil Rigby
Hi all- Please give me some suggestions for *western-encoded* fonts that I can use for organ registrations that *include* fractions like two-thirds, etc. Most fonts I've seen have only a few fractions available and don't include some of the ones we see on our stops frequently. (I don't have a fon

Re: [Finale] [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-23 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: But Andrew Stiller´s book on instrumentation uses the first one you mentioned and not the second. At the time I wrote it, Helmholtz was *the* international standard for pitch designations. The whole current mess strikes me as a prime example of what happens when you ignore t

Re: [Finale] font for registrations

2004-07-23 Thread dhbailey
Cecil Rigby wrote: Hi all- Please give me some suggestions for *western-encoded* fonts that I can use for organ registrations that *include* fractions like two-thirds, etc. Most fonts I've seen have only a few fractions available and don't include some of the ones we see on our stops frequently. (I

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 22, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Bruce Petherick wrote: Hi to y'all. I was contracted to A.M.D. this in Melbourne a long time ago and I had copies of the score for rehearsing. Perhaps if you contact Dobbs Franks in Melbourne - I am _sure_ he had copies. Good luck Bruce Petherick PS: The sight readin

Re: [Finale] [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-23 Thread Michele Sharik
dhbailey wrote: I think the current mess happened because it's easier in digital terms to address things as C1 C2 C3 C4 rather than CC C c c' etc. The debut of midi really muddied the waters, because folks who grew up on midi designation of C4 as middle C find it hard to translate into the He

[Finale] Beamed eighth notes

2004-07-23 Thread George Ports
Is there a way to type a beamed set of two eighth notes in text with the maestro font?  I also have Anastasia but, couldn't seem to find it there.     Any help would surely be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports   ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Finale] [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
I absolutely agree. Helmholtz may have been the standard, but it's a stupid standard. C4 = middle C, etc. is much more elegant, logical, and easy to understand. It's like the difference between imperial and metric measurements. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 23 Jul 2004, at 10

Re: [Finale] OT "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Bruce Petherick
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 22, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Bruce Petherick wrote: Hi to y'all. I was contracted to A.M.D. this in Melbourne a long time ago and I had copies of the score for rehearsing. Perhaps if you contact Dobbs Franks in Melbourne - I am _sure_ he had copies. Good luck Bruce Pethe

[Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread Brad Beyenhof
I just got an email detailing MakeMusic!'s plans to discontinue support for Windows NT4 and MacOS 9. Development will now be unfettered by operating systems of the past! -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] font for registrations

2004-07-23 Thread James E. Bailey
Fonts for mathematical texts will include fractions Am 23.07.2004 7:22 Uhr, schrieb: "dhbailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cecil Rigby wrote: > >> Hi all- >> >> Please give me some suggestions for *western-encoded* fonts that I can use >> for organ registrations that *include* fractions like two-th

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread John Howell
At 9:41 PM +0200 7/22/04, Michael Cook wrote: I'm preparing a production of "Crazy For You" for the theater in Mannheim. The orchestral parts, published by Tams-Witmark in 1993, must have been made with Finale: the Petrucci font is unmistakable. But the publishers do not have a full score, or if

Re: [Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:05 AM 7/23/04 -0700, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >Development will now be unfettered by operating systems of the past! Leaving only the users fettered to financial fate of Makemusic and Finale's registration system! Yippee! Dennis ...who just doggone it couldn't resist __

Re: [Finale] Beamed eighth notes

2004-07-23 Thread James E. Bailey
Title: Re: [Finale] Beamed eighth notes What exactly do you mean?  As in typing a text, you want to include two eighth notes?  If that is the case then: • Create the two beamed eighth notes in Finale • Use the picture tool to extract them • Save as eps • Open the file in a vector editing program

[Finale] OT "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Ryan Beard
I know there are full scores of some shows out there. I did RAGTIME two years ago and they sent a full score to use during the run. We did the first regional production of it anywhere. I guess the show was so new that the publisher hadn't made the reduction at that point. Two volumes of over 1000 p

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 22, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Bruce Petherick wrote: Hi to y'all. I was contracted to A.M.D. this in Melbourne a long time ago and I had copies of the score for rehearsing. Perhaps if you contact Dobbs Franks in Melbourne - I am _sure_ he had copies. Good luck Bruce Pethe

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Bill Thompson
John Howell wrote: However, I know of NO Broadway show that has a full score (Partiture to the librarians involved!) available, or even in existence. I suspect that there was one and only one, R.R.Bennett's original, probably in pencil, and only the various copyists have ever seen it. Certainl

Re: [Finale] [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-23 Thread John Howell
At 10:11 AM -0400 7/23/04, dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: But Andrew Stiller´s book on instrumentation uses the first one you mentioned and not the second. At the time I wrote it, Helmholtz was *the* international standard for pitch designations. The whole current mess strikes me as a prim

Re: [Finale] Beamed eighth notes

2004-07-23 Thread dhbailey
James E. Bailey wrote: What exactly do you mean? As in typing a text, you want to include two eighth notes? If that is the case then: • Create the two beamed eighth notes in Finale • Use the picture tool to extract them • Save as eps • Open the file in a vector editing program (it preserves ever

Re: [Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:15:38 -0400, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:05 AM 7/23/04 -0700, Brad Beyenhof wrote: > >Development will now be unfettered by operating systems of the past! > > Leaving only the users fettered to financial fate of Makemusic and Finale's > registrati

Re: [Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 10:05 AM 7/23/04 -0700, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Development will now be unfettered by operating systems of the past! Leaving only the users fettered to financial fate of Makemusic and Finale's registration system! Yippee! I was going to say "Development will now only be

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread John Howell
At 2:03 PM -0400 7/23/04, Bill Thompson wrote: John Howell wrote: The proofreading still leaves much to be desired, and of course NOBODY ever compiles and sends out lists of errata, so every production has to reinvent the wheel. This thread has been great reading, though I've not worked on a mus

Re: [Finale] Errors in musical theatre parts ("Crazy For You"...)

2004-07-23 Thread dumusic
Several years back I MDed a production of "The Pajama Game". We had really old orchestra books that had obviously been sent out many times. During rehearsals somebody, maybe the trombone player asked about a certain note. I checked the score and told him what it probably ought to be, based on the

Re: [Finale] Beamed eighth notes

2004-07-23 Thread Harold Owen
Title: Re: [Finale] Beamed eighth notes Is there a way to type a beamed set of two eighth notes in text with the maestro font?  I also have Anastasia but, couldn't seem to find it there.     Any help would surely be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports   Dear George, You should downløad the new Rhy

Re: [Finale] Beamed eighth notes

2004-07-23 Thread James E. Bailey
And here I am, silly me, doing stuff the hard way. Am 23.07.2004 11:05 Uhr, schrieb: "dhbailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > James E. Bailey wrote: > >> What exactly do you mean? As in typing a text, you want to include two >> eighth notes? If that is the case then: >> € Create the two beamed eighth

Re: [Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 23.07.2004 19:05 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote > I just got an email detailing MakeMusic!'s plans to discontinue > support for Windows NT4 and MacOS 9. > > Development will now be unfettered by operating systems of the past! Did anyone seriously expect otherwise? Personally I would have prefered i

Re: [Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:01:25 +0200, Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 23.07.2004 19:05 Uhr, Brad Beyenhof wrote > > > I just got an email detailing MakeMusic!'s plans to discontinue > > support for Windows NT4 and MacOS 9. > > > > Development will now be unfettered by operating syst

Re: [Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread Randolph Peters
At 9:01 PM +0200 7/23/04, Johannes Gebauer wrote: [snip] But is anyone seriously using 2k4 in OS 9? I would have used it if it worked. -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] Cross-staff beaming, reverse stems, articulations and seconds...

2004-07-23 Thread Taris L Flashpaw
I know this has probably been discussed here before, but I need a bit of help with a piece I'm working on right now. The piano part will definitely be easier to read if the notes in both hands are beamed together. Now, I now how to do cross-staff beaming and reverse stemming to make it all look o

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Cook
Many thanks to all for a lot of interesting information about this show. As far as I can tell, the parts for "Crazy" were very carefully done: the set we received still had the pencil markings from another production, but there were only a handful of notes that had been corrected. Maybe more er

Re: [Finale] Cross-staff beaming, reverse stems, articulations and seconds...

2004-07-23 Thread dhbailey
Taris L Flashpaw wrote: I know this has probably been discussed here before, but I need a bit of help with a piece I'm working on right now. The piano part will definitely be easier to read if the notes in both hands are beamed together. Now, I now how to do cross-staff beaming and reverse stemm

{Spam} Re: [Finale] Cross-staff beaming, reverse stems, articulations and seconds...

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Cook
1. How do I get the stems to appear in the middle of a second instead of on the outside? -- You can fix this with the reverse stem tool. Click on a handle until you get the result you need! 2. How do I get the articulations (staccatos in my case) to appear on the noteheads and not around the be

Re: [Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 23 Jul 2004, at 03:01 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: But is anyone seriously using 2k4 in OS 9? Yeah, Jef Chippewa is. But I don't think he has a choice. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.

Re: [Finale] OT "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 23 Jul 2004, at 02:00 PM, Ryan Beard wrote: I know there are full scores of some shows out there. I did RAGTIME two years ago and they sent a full score to use during the run. We did the first regional production of it anywhere. I guess the show was so new that the publisher hadn't made the redu

Re: [Finale] [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 23 Jul 2004, at 02:08 PM, John Howell wrote: If that really were a standard it would make some sense, but didn't one manufacturer--probably Yamaha--use a similar system with middle C as C3 or C5? Enough different, in any case, to make the word "standard" inapplicable. Years ago, yes. But no

Re: [Finale] Cross-staff beaming, reverse stems, articulations and seconds...

2004-07-23 Thread Harold Owen
Title: Re: [Finale] Cross-staff beaming, reverse stems, articula Taris writes: I know this has probably been discussed here before, but I need a bit of help with a piece I'm working on right now. The piano part will definitely be easier to read if the notes in both hands are beamed together. No

Re: [Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 23.07.2004 21:18 Uhr, Randolph Peters wrote >> But is anyone seriously using 2k4 in OS 9? > > I would have used it if it worked. Exactly! Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAI

[Finale] OT: Looking for Digital Performer or Audiodesk User

2004-07-23 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I am looking for someone who can give me some tips on using Audiodesk or Digital Performer to edit Classical Music (ie music recorded in takes). I am new to this program and am trying to get a good start. I don't need the basics of digital editing, I have done that before, but I have never used DP

Re: [Finale] OT "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread JohnBlane
The parts were exquisitely hand copied as > well. Good show. > Anyone know who worked on it? It previewed in late > 1997 in Toronto then premiered in NYC in 1998. Darcy, > any ideas? I believe it was Holly Carroll. John Blane Blane Music Preparation 1649 Huntington Ln. Highland Park, IL 60035 84

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Raymond Horton
I've played "My Fair Lady" twice - once in high school, with the old MS parts, and once, about ten years ago, with the Kentucky Opera Association (as a regular opera production in the fall-spring season, for some odd reason), with the typeset parts, which were, as you say, FULL of mistakes. The Ke

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread John Howell
At 5:50 PM -0400 7/23/04, Raymond Horton wrote: I've played "My Fair Lady" twice - once in high school, with the old MS parts, and once, about ten years ago, with the Kentucky Opera Association (as a regular opera production in the fall-spring season, for some odd reason), with the typeset parts, w

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 23, 2004, at 1:59 PM, dhbailey wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: They sent you the full score, with separate staves for the instruments? Wow, that blows my mind! I knew they had the full score in Toronto, but Tams-Witmark were absolute dicks to us. I wonder how one rates the royal treatmen

Re: [Finale] OT "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 23, 2004, at 2:00 PM, Ryan Beard wrote: I know there are full scores of some shows out there. I did RAGTIME two years ago and they sent a full score to use during the run. We did the first regional production of it anywhere. I guess the show was so new that the publisher hadn't made the redu

[Finale] Parts for shows

2004-07-23 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I hear the pain out there this spring I played trb. in the pit for Pajama Game, and the part was so bad I took it home and rewrote the entire thing in Finale. It took a long time, but at least I could play the show. Dean M. Estabrook technology is a fickle mistresscan't live with her..

[Finale] TAN Corrupt scores ... was "Crazy For You" full score

2004-07-23 Thread Peter Lockwood
At 23:50 23/07/2004, there was written: I prefer the MS parts, if that's all the care they take with the new ones. It's a real shame, since they could be corrected so easily on somebody's computer.  Nobody cares. Raymond Horton, Bass Trombonist Louisville Orchestra This happens all over. Correcti

Re: [Finale] Cross-staff beaming, reverse stems, articulations and seconds...

2004-07-23 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 Jul 2004 at 21:55, Michael Cook wrote: > >2. How do I get the articulations (staccatos in my case) to appear on > >the noteheads and not around the beam between the staves? > > -- Just drag the staccatos to where you need them. If you really have > a lot of staccatos on reverse stem notes,

Re: [Finale] Finale and Laptops

2004-07-23 Thread Rocky Road
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:23:20 +0200, Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I still have one application which I cannot replace by an OS X equivalent, Emagic Waveburner. There simply isn't one at this point. Good news for you! >From http://www.soundtech.co.uk/emagic/waveburn.htm : NOTE: Wav

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 Jul 2004 at 18:10, John Howell wrote: > At 5:50 PM -0400 7/23/04, Raymond Horton wrote: > >I've played "My Fair Lady" twice - once in high school, with the old > >MS parts, and once, about ten years ago, with the Kentucky Opera > >Association (as a regular opera production in the fall-spring

Re: [Finale] No more OS9!

2004-07-23 Thread Richard Yates
> I just got an email detailing MakeMusic!'s plans to discontinue > support for Windows NT4 and MacOS 9. Does this mean that they will begin supporting Windows XP? RY ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/fina

[Finale] Classical piece question

2004-07-23 Thread Adriel
Hi all, A bit off topic but, I trust the knowledge here. A client has askd me to do Delibes' Flower Duet from Lakme for her wedding. Now I have a classical fakebook that lists Delibes Pas de Fleurs. Is this the same piece?? TIA :) -Adriel ___ Finale mail

Re: [Finale] "Crazy For You" full score?

2004-07-23 Thread Raymond Horton
Whether the new "My Fair Lady" set was done from the old parts doesn't matter - they were done very sloppily and full of oddball mistakes that were not in the MS parts. I have a memory for such things. The first time I played it (1970) was a memorable experience for me - I was brought in as a 17-

[Finale] Re: [OT] international pitch nomenclature

2004-07-23 Thread Rudolf van Berkum
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:09:01 jef wrote: helmholtz's system (middle-C = c^1 or c') is used almost exclusively in german-speaking lands, and the system defined by the acoustical society of america (middle-C = C4 [or C with small, lowered 4]) is predominant in canada, and it seems to me in the US. w

Re: [Finale] Classical piece question

2004-07-23 Thread Michael Cook
The "Pas de Fleurs" is a waltz from the ballet "Naila". If the flower duet from Lakmé is in a fake book I'm sure it would be simply "Flower Duet". It's certainly available separately: ask any good music shop. Michael Cook Hi all, A bit off topic but, I trust the knowledge here. A client has askd