if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check this
out:
http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html
wow.
maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and
visit this guy to invite him into our century?
jef
(PS okay so the dogsled comment is kind of
Check that the Staff Attributes dialogue for the lower staff has 'allow
optimisation' checked. (I suppose also check that 'remove empty staves'
is checked in the Staff System Optimisation dialogue is checked, for
good measure!)
Actually, come to think of it, it could be that it's tripping up
Jim and Pat Sodke wrote:
I'm creating a piano chart that has notes entered in the first two
systems, and from system three to the end only chord symbols in the
treble clef. I'm attempting to optimize those staffs in page layout,
and eliminate the bass, but cannot get anything to happen. I'm
jef chippewa wrote:
maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and
visit this guy to invite him into our century?
The global warming had the result that large parts of Sweden almost
never get any snow nowadays.
And if you start looking at the uploads to the Finale
Solution!
I have downloaded the Logitech mouse driver 9.37 and that solved the problem. It is now possible to scroll horinzontal AND vertical with the scrollwheel!
Thanks for the help!!
regards
Stig
Den 2/2-2005, kl. 0.14, skrev Stig Christensen:
Thanks for your quick reply. Sorry but it don't
Dear list,
When upstems, all the 16th note stems cross 16th note joined beams. Not when
downstems?
Thanks for your responses.
Pierre.
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Richard Yates wrote:
Yes, you can scroll in Finale Windows, but not with the most recent
Logitech
driver (v. 9.79). I'm not sure why, but the new version broke scrolling
in
Finale, though not in other applications, as far as I can tell. I
reverted
to an older driver (9.73), and scrolling works
You have to uninstall the old mousedriver from the install/uninstall
software section of the controlpanel and then install the old driver.
venlig hilsen
Stig
Den 2/2-2005, kl. 3.18, skrev Richard Yates:
Yes, you can scroll in Finale Windows, but not with the most recent
Logitech
driver (v.
Is it possible to export/import the different lines from the Smart
Shape Tool between documents?
regards
Stig
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Stig Christensen wrote:
Is it possible to export/import the different lines from the Smart Shape
Tool between documents?
If you cut and paste measures with the smart shape in it, individual
line definitions will be copied.
Settings Transfer in Forza! Lite can copy all your custom smart shape
On Feb 1, 2005, at 8:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My sadness right now is about the fact that Dennis Bathory is so
smart. And
no, I'm not being ironic.
In the course of these posts and the responses to them (now approaching
book-length), Bathory writes as fine and clear an exposition of the
On Feb 2, 2005, at 3:36 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
Jim and Pat Sodke wrote:
I'm creating a piano chart that has notes entered in the first two
systems, and from system three to the end only chord symbols in the
treble clef. I'm attempting to optimize those staffs in page layout,
and eliminate
if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check this
out:
http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html
maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and
visit this guy to invite him into our century?
I note that the last line on the page says I then
Christopher Smith wrote:
Also, if you have previously tried to optimize, you have to REMOVE
optimisation BEFORE you set the group attribute to optimise normally.
Otherwise it will not work.
No, that's not necessary - that's why I said that you should first go to
SCROLL VIEW!
Best regards,
Jari
On Feb 2, 2005, at 8:30 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
Christopher Smith wrote:
Also, if you have previously tried to optimize, you have to REMOVE
optimisation BEFORE you set the group attribute to optimise
normally. Otherwise it will not work.
No, that's not necessary - that's why I said that you
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 05:28:28 -0800, Richard Yates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check this
out:
http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html
maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and
visit this guy to
Hey Jari!
I will try tour progtam!
venlig hilsen
Stig
Den 2/2-2005, kl. 13.40, skrev Jari Williamsson:
Stig Christensen wrote:
Is it possible to export/import the different lines from the Smart
Shape Tool between documents?
If you cut and paste measures with the smart shape in it, individual
At 10:31 AM 02/02/2005, Stig Christensen wrote:
Hey Jari!
I will try tour progtam!
Unfortunately, Forza is Windows-only at the moment -- and it looks like
you're on a Mac.
Aaron.
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Mea culpa ... mea maxima ... etc. Yes, I gave credit to the incorrect
person ... no doubt I was agog at the new vistas in my life. This list
remains amazing to the techno challanged me. Thank you Darcy. And
Kenneth, I'm sure you will answer some question of mine in the future
... I'll have
That made my day!
Dean
On Feb 2, 2005, at 12:00 AM, jef chippewa wrote:
if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check
this out:
http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html
wow.
maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and
visit this guy to invite
I can't believe I copied out my entire Master's Thesis (87 pages of a
wind ensemble score) by hand, using india ink and Cameo paper. I did
have the advantage of a hi-tech electric eraser, which sometimes left
holes in the paper when pressed too hard. Talk about another century!
Dean
On Feb 2,
Andrew Stiller wrote:
Press three keys to toggle scroll/page view? Give me a break!
don't blame Panther for decisions which MM made.
What else?
Johannes
MM wouldn't have made the decision if there hadn't been an OS change.
My whole point is that the decisions made by MM in trying to
accomodate
From the spelling it looks like I'm from another planet!!
Sorry.
I was on Mac (in Finale issues) but now I'm back on Windows, and I must
say allthough I don't like it: I think the Win version of Finale is
much quicker. Especially the built in keyboard short-cuts works very
well!!!
But I love
Christopher Smith wrote:
It IS rather weird behaviour, just the same.
No, it isn't. It's all perfectly logical.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
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Yes. And then there's the semi-transparent vellum, and razor blades.
-Carl
--On Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:11 AM -0800 Dean M. Estabrook
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't believe I copied out my entire Master's Thesis (87 pages of a
wind ensemble score) by hand, using india ink and Cameo
On Wednesday, February 2, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
Christopher Smith wrote:
It IS rather weird behaviour, just the same.
No, it isn't. It's all perfectly logical.
Just to be clear, this is what I find weird:
To turn on normal optimisation in a piano group, you HAVE to be in
At 2/2/2005 11:11 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I can't believe I copied out my entire Master's Thesis (87 pages of a
wind ensemble score) by hand, using india ink and Cameo paper. I did
have the advantage of a hi-tech electric eraser, which sometimes left
holes in the paper when pressed too hard.
Another crrosspost from Orchestra-L:
Martin Kettle
Tuesday February 1, 2005
The Guardian
When did the music die? And why? It will be 30 years in August since the
death of Dmitri Shostakovitch. Next year also marks the 30th anniversary
of the death of Benjamin Britten. Aaron Copland, older than
Christopher Smith wrote:
To turn on normal optimisation in a piano group, you HAVE to be in
scroll view if you have previously attempted to optimise.
Of course, otherwise you can't access the global staff list.
If you have NOT previously attempted optimisation, or if you have turned
OFF the
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 12:09:11 -0500, Christopher Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday, February 2, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
Christopher Smith wrote:
It IS rather weird behaviour, just the same.
No, it isn't. It's all perfectly logical.
Just to be clear,
Hey all
Thanks - I had tried all of the discussed, but not in scroll view. I was
getting all of the same results you discussed below. What a pain and a loss
of an hour or so.
Jim
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, February
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dennis
Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My point is simple and you give it too much credit
in your details.
I think you make several points. Three that I get from your recent
posts:
1) Your taste in music is largely confined to the contemporary.
2) Non-pop
I'm will Chris on this. Finale's Page View/Scroll view behavior w/r/t
optimization *is* incredibly confusing *if you don't already know how
it works.* Jari and Brad and I all know how it works, but that doesn't
mean how it works is good UI.
Good UI would be:
1) The first time you try to
Yes, that's what I meant by Cameo paper. It was an excellent company
out of Hollywood, which provided the vellums as well as printing
services. I remember averaging 4 pages per day. I also used a nifty
little gizmo, the name of which I forget, to write in expressions, etc.
It had a tail pin
Egads, you're correct ... that was the 20th Century. How quickly we
forget. Yes, in addition to my composition, I, of course, had to write
an analysis of it ... about 40 pages, but it was just text with a few
musical examples ... easy by comparison to the score work.
Dean
On Feb 2, 2005, at
Stig wrote:
Solution!
I have downloaded the Logitech mouse driver 9.37 and that solved the
problem. It is now possible to scroll horinzontal AND vertical with the
scrollwheel!
Where did you find the earlier driver? I am having a similar problem with
the MX500 and I could only find the latest
When we start talking about the good ol' days and our musical equivalents of
walking 5 miles to school in a blizzard, I can't help but think of Finale
1.0!
Don
on 2/2/05 11:06 AM, Carl Donsbach at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes. And then there's the semi-transparent vellum, and razor blades.
Nah. That was sophisticated. A cloned Apple II+ with Mountain
Computer sound cards and a partially built Syntauri keyboard -- pre
midi of course. 20 seconds of music at a time then recorded and
spliced together -- that was when work was work!
Jerry
On 2-Feb-05, at 2:47 PM, Don Hart wrote:
At 12:29 PM 2/2/05 -0500, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Another crrosspost from Orchestra-L:
The pioneer figure was Arnold Schoenberg, with his theory of the
emancipation of dissonance
The theory, and the term, belong to Charles Seeger. The emancipation
of a large chunk of the American population was
Touché!
Yeah, things weren't really that bad, I guess. I was receiving much more
from Finale than I was needing from it. Of course that didn't keep us all
from poking, prodding and dreaming, not necessarily in that order, toward a
new and improved Finale (still doesn't).
Many, many slowww,
A support guy here in Denmark gave me this address:
ftp://ftp.logitech-europe.com/pub/support
Here you can find it!!
regards
Stig
Den 2/2-2005, kl. 20.23, skrev Colin Broom:
Stig wrote:
Solution!
I have downloaded the Logitech mouse driver 9.37 and that solved the
problem. It is now possible to
On Jan 31, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
It is *never* a mistake to leave a computer system alone if it is
stable and you are happy with how it works. At most you can say I may
be missing out on some features I might like.
I side with Robert on this, though I also agree with those
Arrg. I'm still stuck using iKey 2.0 for the time being (can't afford
QuicKeys), but I'm having no luck transferring my previous iKey
shortcuts to my new Mac mini.
I want to do this without deleting the iKey preferences on the new
machine. I just want to add my Fin2005a shortcuts, which were
jef chippewa wrote:
if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check this
out:
http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html
wow.
maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and
visit this guy to invite him into our century?
jef
(PS okay so the dogsled
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I can't believe I copied out my entire Master's Thesis (87 pages of a
wind ensemble score) by hand, using india ink and Cameo paper. I did
have the advantage of a hi-tech electric eraser, which sometimes left
holes in the paper when pressed too hard. Talk about another
Thanks ... because I could not have afforded to have anyone else do all
that work ... although I did have the analysis typed by a professional
... it was either that, or the thing would not have passed muster.
Dean
On Feb 2, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I can't
First of all, why are you using iKeys 2? Can't you go back to vers. 1?
In any event in the iKey2 editor on the old machine File-export, on
the new file-Import.
Does this work for you?
steve
On Feb 2, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Arrg. I'm still stuck using iKey 2.0 for the time
Ken, thanks for the post and the info.
At 03:43 PM 2/2/05 +, Ken Moore wrote:
I think you make several points. Three that I get from your recent
posts:
1) Your taste in music is largely confined to the contemporary.
It is now -- though I have a pretty good knowledge of music history, both
The world is changing and the musicians who know how to adapt will be
the ones who survive.
Trying to think how to adapt to this world without pandering (which I don't seem to be constitutionally able to do) and can't figure it out. Whatever esthetic system is out there seems unrelated to the
Hi Steve,
I can't go back to iKey 1.x because iKey *destroys* your 1.x shortcuts
in the process of importing them into iKey 2.x. That's the only reason
-- otherwise, I would have gone back to 1.x immediately.
Also, I can't export shortcuts on the old machine because I *sold*
the old machine.
Dennis,
Thank you so much for this. Wow!! You said so many things in such a
way that, though I share many of your opinions and thoughts, I don't
have the gift of expression that you do. I'm really touched and
quite frankly in awe of your writing abilities!
I have an abiding trust in
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