Oh okay. If you mean fruitful, creative, musically omnivorous
collaborations between classically-trained musicians and/or composers
alongside musicians from other backgrounds, that's what the Downtown
NY scene has been like for at least the past 30 years or so. The
fully-notated music comin
"David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unfortunately, it seems that the reaction I've
> provoked among some is to the wrong thing, the style rather than the
> content. This may be a defect in my writing or it may be a defect in
> the comprehension of the readers.
Early users of the inter
Owain Sutton wrote:
dhbailey wrote:
Or to go to a football game (if you add in the cost of parking and the
vastly overpriced souvenirs and refreshments).
Another very good comparison. And in terms of sheer numbers and
regularity of attendance, one that shows price is not necessarily an
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jan 2006, at 7:41 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Actually, the majority of indie rock fans roughly my age (let's say
21-40) are all in favor of timbrallly, structurally, lyrically
sophisticated music that challenges them as listeners. Th
John Howell wrote:
dhbailey wrote:
Writing music you detest to put bread on your table is selling out
(think of those horrid German Dances and countless Minuets which
Beethoven and Mozart wrote to put bread on their table) but writing
music which you believe in but is tailored to someone's s
Cecil Rigby wrote:
just wondering---
Why is it that when I view at 75% the rulers have inches that are correct,
but at 100% view inches are one and five-eighths long? It's obvious the
length is relative to view, but one would expect an inch to be the right
length at 100% view, no?
What resol
Carl Dershem wrote:
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I can just hear Dick Clark's kids giving it a 10, because it has a
beat and you can dance to it.
(Probably dating myself)
From discussions I've had mith my nieces and nephews and their
contemporaries, most of the music fans now want the sam
John Howell wrote:
At 5:24 PM -0800 1/29/06, Brennon Bortz wrote:
John,
Would you point me in the direction of this "OrchestraList"? I'd really
appreciate it!
Thank you,
Brennon Bortz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not sure about the protocol for subscribing. A very nice bunch of very
knowledgeabl
John Howell wrote:
At 10:53 AM + 1/29/06, Owain Sutton wrote:
Some good points, perhaps, although I think you need a bit more
evidence before making such claims about Dufay or Josquin with such
certainty!
In DuFay's lifetime the popularity of one's music can be measured by the
number
At 1/29/2006 08:35 PM, John Howell wrote:
>At 12:43 PM -0500 1/29/06, Phil Daley wrote:
>>In church this morning:
>>
>>Prelude: Gavotte
>>Anthem: Praise God, Sing All Ye Heavens
>>Offertory: Sonata in F Major
>>Postlude: Ah Vous Dirais
>>
>>Worship Note: In celebration of Mozart's 250th birt
On 29 Jan 2006 at 20:18, John Howell wrote:
> At 10:53 AM + 1/29/06, Owain Sutton wrote:
> >
> >Some good points, perhaps, although I think you need a bit more
> >evidence before making such claims about Dufay or Josquin with such
> >certainty!
>
> In DuFay's lifetime the popularity of one's
On 29 Jan 2006 at 18:59, Richard Yates wrote:
[quoting me, unattributed:]
> > I'm not sure why anyone
> > thinks that public posts on that subject could be helpful under any
> > circumstances.
>
> Because the posts are public, you know that everyone else knows that
> the posts have been made and
it's set to 96 DPI
Cecil
> What resolution is your monitor set to? That can make a difference as
> to whether what a program thinkgs of as 100% really is 100%.
> David H. Bailey
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On 1/29/06 7:52 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
> To me, the price of tickets, plus the perception of snootiness are at
> least as much what keep the audiences away as anything else.
Carl,
You are absolutely right. As a way of backing up what I say, we have a
festival here in Maryland, in the rural part
At 11:43 PM -0600 1/29/06, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
Andrew:
When I read my comment
There is in the U.S. a dogmatic divide between "contemporary" and
"classical" music that just does not exist in Europe.
and your reply
I reiterate (for the third time now in this thread, so far w.o
rejoinder)
Great story, David.
Here in LA there is snootiness and some non-snootiness. The LA Phil
makes its attempt at the bowl and does very well. Up front is snooty
and fancy dinners, in back is less snooty and hot dogs (though still
expensive for many).
In comparison, there are ensembles like the Long B
Question: Does this history extend back to the time when Shaw was
Music Director of the ASO?
Just curious,
Dean
On Jan 29, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
There is a long history of this in Atlanta -- Randy Newman
premiered the material from his (very, very good) album _Goo
On 28 Jan 2006 at 17:40, John Howell wrote:
Personal opinion: Any song with 10 verses shows lack of craft on the
part of the poet
So much for most of the Child ballads...
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Prices here in Philadelphia are comparable to those cited for San Diego.
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On Jan 30, 2006, at 12:43 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
Andrew:
When I read my comment
There is in the U.S. a dogmatic divide between "contemporary" and
"classical" music that just does not exist in Europe.
and your reply
I reiterate (for the third time now in this thread, so far w.o
rejoi
On Jan 30, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Owain Sutton wrote:
Petrucci was a shrewd (or very lucky) businessman. But, we do not
know who he sold books to, or even how many he sold.
Early printed music, right up through at least the 17th c., cost
more--much more--than an MS because it looked better and wa
Very nice piece John, I think you've nailed it except for a couple of
points.
> John
Unfortunately the current reaction to even the modest effort that it
takes to appreciate the American Songbook has now resulted in the
masses giving up mel
At 1/30/2006 01:19 PM, Mike Greensill wrote:
>You seem to make the point that it's an "either or" situation. I
>think it's much greyer than that. The reason kids have given up
>melody is because they never get to sing it and never get to hear it.
>The appreciation of any music does take effort an
On 30 Jan 2006, at 6:08 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jan 2006, at 7:41 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Actually, the majority of indie rock fans roughly my age (let's
say 21-40) are all in favor of timbrallly, structurally,
lyrically sophisticat
Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Jan 30, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Owain Sutton wrote:
Petrucci was a shrewd (or very lucky) businessman. But, we do not
know who he sold books to, or even how many he sold.
Early printed music, right up through at least the 17th c., cost
more--much more--than an MS becaus
Well, yes and no. I have no idea if Shaw was personally involved in
any of the crossover stuff -- most of the time, the music director
doesn't conduct the pops gigs. Anyway, the _Good Old Boys_ premiere
happened back in 1974 and the orchestra was conducted by one of
Randy's uncles, Emil New
<>Phil
I only have local knowledge. And unfortunately here in the mostly
wonderful city of San Francisco, except for the performing arts high
school, music programs have disappeared and it's a continous fight to
provde any music. I know this because I'm on the board of "Music In
Schools T
Hi,
A repost of an earlier question that went unanswered. Am I doing this
right?
C.
On Jan 29, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Hey!
What happened to Mass Edit>Clear Items... lyrics or chords? In my
FinMac2006c these items are greyed out!
I worked around it by copying the me
Is it this: When "clear entries" is checked, it clears ALL of the
grayed-out items. Uncheck "clear entries" to choose invidivual items.
For me in FinMac2006c, this turns the gray-ed out to black, and I can
then select lyrics to clear.
-Carolyn
On 1/30/06, Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
Cecil Rigby wrote:
just wondering---
Why is it that when I view at 75% the rulers have inches that are correct,
but at 100% view inches are one and five-eighths long? It's obvious the
length is relative to view, but one would expect an inch to be the right
length at 100% view, no?
Would I expec
David Froom wrote:
On 1/29/06 7:52 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
To me, the price of tickets, plus the perception of snootiness are at
least as much what keep the audiences away as anything else.
Carl,
You are absolutely right. As a way of backing up what I say, we have a
festival here in
I, for one, did not see your earlier question.
RBH
Christopher Smith wrote:
Hi,
A repost of an earlier question that went unanswered. Am I doing this
right?
C.
On Jan 29, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Hey!
What happened to Mass Edit>Clear Items... lyrics or chords? In my
Andrew Stiller wrote:
Only after some thought did I realize that you were using
"contemporary" to mean "popular." To be quite frank, you shouldn't do
this. Every person I've ever encountered who uses "contemporary" in
this way, does so because they honestly believe that popular music
*postdat
On 30 Jan 2006 at 19:36, Owain Sutton wrote:
> If you've got information on Petrucci's retail prices, a lot of people
> would be interested in knowing it!
Well, I believe we now have a pretty definitive survey of Petrucci's
output, Stanley Boorman's "Ottaviano Petrucci: A Catalogue Raisonné":
On 30 Jan 2006 at 9:48, David Froom wrote:
> So, Carl, yes you are exactly right. Get rid of high prices and
> snootiness, and classical music of every stripe flourishes.
Er, when somebody pays the musicians so that the audience doesn't
have to pay.
Which gets us back to the US vs. Europe comp
I didn't realise he'd finally finished it! (Yet another reminder that
I've been out of the academic loop a bit too long...) Trouble is
getting my hands on a copy around here, as $250 is a bit out of my reach
at the moment ;) I'm intrigued to know if he's turned up firm evidence
regarding Pet
On 29 Jan 2006 at 18:38, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
> On 1/29/06, Cecil Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > just wondering---
> > Why is it that when I view at 75% the rulers have inches that are
> > correct, but at 100% view inches are one and five-eighths long? It's
> > obvious the length is relative
Le 06-01-30 à 09:20, David W. Fenton a écrit :I'm quaking in my boots at the idea that everyone is saying bad things about me behind my back! Or on the list! Look, I've been around a long time participating in online discussion, and I know how to hold up my end of a discussion. I'm not afra
On 30 Jan 2006 at 20:25, Éric Dussault wrote:
> I just wish there would be a moderator on this list to kick you out.
If this list were moderated it would cease to be interesting. I've
seen it happen in other forums -- people complain about "rudeness"
from other posters and demand a moderated li
Le 06-01-30 à 20:43, David W. Fenton a écrit : If this list were moderated it would cease to be interesting. I've seen it happen in other forums -- people complain about "rudeness" from other posters and demand a moderated list. The list becomes moderated and then nothing interesting is ever pos
Le 06-01-30 à 20:43, David W. Fenton a écrit :And, again, you insist on drawing the thing out by posting yet again without actually adding any useful content to the list. It completely baffles me as to why your post needed to be made in public. I honestly don't care about the content if it is off
I really thought we were done with all of this.
As someone who has been on the receiving end of David's barbs on
occasion, I have to say that the criticism of him has gone way overboard.
Anyone else for calling an end to this and getting back to Finale and
tangential musical discussions?
dhbailey wrote:
I have to disagree here -- to Glenn Miller, melody was supremely
important. Being able to dance to the music was important as well, but
melody was very important.
I think it was because for the audiences for which he played, dance
music had to have melody AND beat.
Otherwi
David Froom wrote:
So, Carl, yes you are exactly right. Get rid of high prices and snootiness,
and classical music of every stripe flourishes.
David Froom
Sounds like a fun series! Does Don Patterson play with you guys?
cd
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On 30 Jan 2006 at 20:48, Éric Dussault wrote:
> I think you're sick David.
HOW DARE YOU BE SO RUDE AND INSULTING AND OFFENSIVE!!!
;)
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At 5:41 PM -0500 1/30/06, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 30 Jan 2006 at 9:48, David Froom wrote:
So, Carl, yes you are exactly right. Get rid of high prices and
snootiness, and classical music of every stripe flourishes.
Er, when somebody pays the musicians so that the audience doesn't
have to
There should be a tag on your email saying "Don't feed the troll".
David W. Fenton wrote:
Finally! I've been suggesting this all along.
It's how I deal with trolls in other forums whose posts I'm not
interested in reading.
And, again, you insist on drawing the thing out by posting yet agai
Well, except for that Oboe joke. I'm sure it offended some Oboist
somewhere..;-)
Éric Dussault wrote:
Le 06-01-30 à 20:43, David W. Fenton a écrit :
If this list were moderated it would cease to be interesting. I've
seen it happen in other forums -- people complain about "rude
Please, just disregard him. I mean, he has lost credibility when he
failed to read the manual.
We really don't need to get into a Fenton diagnosis thread. I think
everyone on the list knows what he is..
Éric Dussault wrote:
Le 06-01-30 à 20:43, David W. Fenton a écrit :
And, again, you
John Howell wrote:
At 5:41 PM -0500 1/30/06, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 30 Jan 2006 at 9:48, David Froom wrote:
So, Carl, yes you are exactly right. Get rid of high prices and
snootiness, and classical music of every stripe flourishes.
Er, when somebody pays the musicians so that the aud
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