[Finale] OT: Arrangement Contract Question

2006-03-15 Thread Jonathan Smith
Hi All, This is not strictly Finale related, but this seems like a very knowledgeable group to get some advice from.  I was recently sent a job description for some music arranging and typesetting services.  In general, I only do engraving work, so I'm not too familiar with the legalities

[Finale] How do I combine music pieces?

2006-03-15 Thread Jonathan Smith
I went through all the problems of learning how to assemble multiple  movement files into a single work file a year or so ago, using WinFin  2003. I did quite a bit of experimenting and it became quite clear  that using clip files had exactly the same results as copy/insert. Has that changed in

[Finale] How to force positiong of articulations?

2006-03-15 Thread Jonathan Smith
Hello Finale; I have found that when using the "explode music" feature, even though the articulations are in the right place BEFORE the music is exploded, they come out funny in the parts AFTER the chords are exploded. I was wondering if there is a way for ALL articulations of a certain type to be

Re: [Finale] OT: Arrangement Contract Question

2006-03-15 Thread Phil Daley
At 3/15/2006 12:21 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote: This has always annoyed me. There is a train of thought that the arranger, in making an arrangement of a specific work, is doing the composer a big favour by increasing the performance of the composer's work - especially when it is for a different

[Finale] Chord sequence in level different than 1, melody in level 1

2006-03-15 Thread mnoia
I already sent this message but it seems it did not get the group: Typical jazz situation: I'm arranging for a sextet (three horns + piano, bass, drums). I created a chord sequence in piano staff, now I want to copy it into horns staves, move it to a level greater than 1 (3,4?), then

Re: [Finale] Chord sequence in level different than 1, melody in level 1

2006-03-15 Thread Christopher Smith
I never saw this message, so it might not have made it here. You describe the procedure pretty well. Attach the chords in the piano staff to rests of the appropriate length (half rests maximum, as whole rests centre the chord in the bar instead of putting them at the beginning). COpy the entire

Re: [Finale] OT: Arrangement Contract Question

2006-03-15 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 15, 2006, at 12:41 PM, Phil Daley wrote: At 3/15/2006 12:21 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote: This has always annoyed me. There is a train of thought that the arranger, in making an arrangement of a specific work, is doing the composer a big favour by increasing the performance of the

Re: [Finale] OT: Arrangement Contract Question

2006-03-15 Thread Scott Amort
Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond. Clearly a loaded topic! I suppose my chief concern in all this is getting credit for my work, so I will try for a clause that reflects that. However, as was pointed out - I don't really know the composer or the works, so I should have a look

Re: [Finale] OT: Arrangement Contract Question

2006-03-15 Thread dhbailey
Scott Amort wrote: Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond. Clearly a loaded topic! I suppose my chief concern in all this is getting credit for my work, so I will try for a clause that reflects that. However, as was pointed out - I don't really know the composer or the works, so I

Re: [Finale] Chord sequence in level different than 1, melody in level 1

2006-03-15 Thread mnoia
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[Finale] Continual midi problems

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Greensill
I'm back to having midi problems, can anyone help? Finale (2006c) will not recognize my midi keyboard (Radium 49 - USB connection) on my mac powerbook (10.4.5) both after I've put the computer to sleep and after it's been shut down. Here's the hoops I have to go to make it work: When I

[Finale] TAN: Slurs on long, tied notes

2006-03-15 Thread Colin Broom
I'm working on a piece at the moment that happens to have some long notes tied over several bars. Now I know that conventional wisdom says that if one note is slurred to the next, the slur should extend from the very first note over/under all of the ties to the very last note, so, for example,

Re: [Finale] TAN: Slurs on long, tied notes

2006-03-15 Thread John Bell
Hi Colin I've done exactly as you describe in similar circumstances, and always felt slightly guilty about it. I would be enormously grateful for absolution in the form of the sanction of an authoritative opinion. John On 16 Mar 2006, at 00:41, Colin Broom wrote: I'm working on a piece

Re: [Finale] TAN: Slurs on long, tied notes

2006-03-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
Sorry guys -- slurs that don't extend to the final tied note are a massive pet peeve of mine. For starters, they make it much more difficult for wind players to decide where to take a breath. Slurs are not a fast event -- slurs indicate phrasing. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] TAN: Slurs on long, tied notes

2006-03-15 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Mar 2006 at 0:41, Colin Broom wrote: I know this goes against what is said in most if not all of the engraving books, but I have seen it in other scores, and not just contemporary ones. I'm just wondering if anyone has any particular opinions about this? It was quite common in the 50

Re: [Finale] TAN: Slurs on long, tied notes

2006-03-15 Thread John Bell
But Darcy -- surely a tie means you don't take a breath/change bow? I can't see where any difficulty arises for wind players, or indeed for anyone. John On 16 Mar 2006, at 01:31, Darcy James Argue wrote: Sorry guys -- slurs that don't extend to the final tied note are a massive pet

Re: [Finale] TAN: Slurs on long, tied notes

2006-03-15 Thread John Bell
On 16 Mar 2006, at 01:14, David W. Fenton wrote:Charpentier's practice of using beaming to indicate  syllabification, with slurs between notes that couldn't be beamed  together (the result is strings of 8 and 10 and 12 and more 16ths (no  secondary beam breaks) that are just about unreadable, with

[Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-15 Thread Éric Dussault
I was working on a vocal piece this week and noticed that Finale 2006 is automatically transforming common ligatures (like fi to fi for example). Once an eps is exported into a DTP program, the ligatures are gone. Is this a bug, and can someone replicate this problem? A screenshot and a pdf

Re: [Finale] TAN: Slurs on long, tied notes

2006-03-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
It's much easier to see some indication that spans the entire length of a phrase, so you know how long it is at a glance. If you see a really long slur, you know you need to take a really big breath. Using ties alone makes it harder to see that at a glance. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] OT: Arrangement Contract Question

2006-03-15 Thread John Howell
At 12:41 PM -0500 3/15/06, Phil Daley wrote: I arrange stuff all the time for the groups that I direct. Probably illegal arrangements ;-) We perform them in church, obviously no monetary situation. Perhaps someone could even tell me if this is legal: 1. I take a Bach chorale and arrange

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-15 Thread Christopher Smith
I can confirm the behaviour, FinMac2006c, OSX 10.3.9. I saved an EPS which I then converted to PDF with Preview. Ligatures are automatically added in the Finale file, no way that I can find to remove them, then they are stripped once the EPS is converted to PDF, with no way to force their

Re: [Finale] OT: Arrangement Contract Question

2006-03-15 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 15, 2006, at 10:46 PM, John Howell wrote: At 12:41 PM -0500 3/15/06, Phil Daley wrote: 2. I take an SATB choral piece and arrange it for TTBB. This is a little trickier. There is a Fair Use provision allowing you to edit or simplify legally purchased music. (Those may not be

Re: [Finale] TAN: Slurs on long, tied notes

2006-03-15 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 15, 2006, at 8:55 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's much easier to see some indication that spans the entire length of a phrase, so you know how long it is at a glance. If you see a really long slur, you know you need to take a really big breath. Using ties alone makes it harder to

Re: [Finale] Ligatures in Finale 2006d

2006-03-15 Thread John Howell
At 10:49 PM -0500 3/15/06, Christopher Smith wrote: I can confirm the behaviour, FinMac2006c, OSX 10.3.9. I saved an EPS which I then converted to PDF with Preview. Ligatures are automatically added in the Finale file, no way that I can find to remove them, then they are stripped once the EPS

Re: [Finale] TAN: Slurs on long, tied notes

2006-03-15 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 15, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I agree with this. Slurs are so easy to adjust now that they can be made to lie quite flat and keep an uncluttered look without much effort. Is there a new development I'm unaware of? Last I heard, no matter how many new tools they

Re: [Finale] OT: Arrangement Contract Question

2006-03-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
I don't know about that -- the same thing happened with Bob Belden's version of _Turandot_, which was never released due to objections from the estate. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 15 Mar 2006, at 10:59 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The