Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Christopher Smith
I don't know of much RECENT music written for alto-tenor-bass orchestra sections, though that was overwhelmingly the case from Haydn up to Tchakovsky or so. Tchaik, for example, is almost always played on tenor trombone because of the range, though it is written mostly in alto clef. I think

RE: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Lee Actor
Are you sure about Tchaik? All the scores I have at hand (Sym. 4,5,6, Romeo and Juliet, Capriccio Italien) have 1st and 2nd trombones in tenor clef, 3rd in bass clef. Of course, the parts could be different. Odd bit of info about Shostakovich, if true (I can verify his scores are as you say).

Subject: Re: Subject: Re: [Finale] Kiss Me, Kate books

2006-06-21 Thread SteveSTCC
In a message dated 6/21/06 1:01:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subject: Re: [Finale] Kiss Me, Kate books On 20 Jun 2006 at 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, 95% of the orchestration changes taking place in recent years on B'way are for

[Finale] Neumes/Gregorian Chant Notation (Medieval Plugin)

2006-06-21 Thread Scot Hanna-Weir
(I don't think this went through the first time, sorry if it is a repeat) Hello list, A couple of weeks ago I wrote in with some questions about creating medieval (neumes) notation in Finale. (see the thread: [Finale] Neumes/Gregorian Chant Notation). Well, we received the plug-in today and I

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Christopher Smith
No, I am not sure. I don't know about the scores, though we had established that the clefs in the score and parts might not agree. But the parts I've seen are mostly in alto clef for the 1st trombone (at least, the editions I tend to get in the small orchestras I play with on occasion.) It is

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Robert Patterson
I don't know of much RECENT music written for alto-tenor-bass orchestra sections, though that was overwhelmingly the case from Haydn up to Tchakovsky or so. Are you sure Tchaik wanted alto trombone? Generally, my impression is that alto trombone went out of fashion towards the end of the

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Christopher Smith
Sorry, I meant to say that the change over to tenor was more or less complete by the time we get to Tchaik or so. He certainly was writing for two tenor trombones, and a bunch of the French composers even before him were writing for three tenors. As you implied, it was a fashion change that

[Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-21 Thread Andrew Stiller
Orchestra parts, printed 2-up as booklets on folded double sheets. Q: should the booklet be center-stapled, or left as loose sheets? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread John Howell
At 6:46 PM + 6/21/06, Robert Patterson wrote: I don't know of much RECENT music written for alto-tenor-bass orchestra sections, though that was overwhelmingly the case from Haydn up to Tchakovsky or so. Are you sure Tchaik wanted alto trombone? Generally, my impression is that alto

Re: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 21, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Orchestra parts, printed 2-up as booklets on folded double sheets. Q: should the booklet be center-stapled, or left as loose sheets? According to MOLA, stapled or saddle-stiched, not loose. They also accept tape binding. Christopher

RE: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-21 Thread Lee Actor
Orchestra parts, printed 2-up as booklets on folded double sheets. Q: should the booklet be center-stapled, or left as loose sheets? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ I much prefer center-stapled. The only upside for loose sheets is a little less work

Re: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-21 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: Orchestra parts, printed 2-up as booklets on folded double sheets. Q: should the booklet be center-stapled, or left as loose sheets? My vote would be for stapled -- that way it would take a real idiot to lose the center pages. Knowing you as I do from this list, I

Re: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-21 Thread John Howell
At 3:52 PM -0400 6/21/06, Andrew Stiller wrote: Orchestra parts, printed 2-up as booklets on folded double sheets. Q: should the booklet be center-stapled, or left as loose sheets? Please, center-stapled, preferably with 2 staples. Of course that means working in multiples of 4 pages, with

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 21, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Personally, I like alto trombone very much. My latest orch. piece used alto/ten/bass rather than the (now) more standard tenor 1/2, bass. Fortunately the player has and enjoys playing an alto trombone. After hearing it, I will probably

Re: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-21 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 21, 2006, at 5:06 PM, John Howell wrote: Please, center-stapled, preferably with 2 staples. Of course that means working in multiples of 4 pages, with blank pages, if any, at the back of the booklet. Loose sheets work, but present more possibilities of mixups. It's unanimous for

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Robert Patterson
Andrew Stiller wrote: And of course, in the 20th-21st centuries, tenor trombone really means tenor-bass trombone, w. a trigger. I know a lot of first-trombonists prefer the old simplex tenor, because it is lighter in weight and 1st trb. parts almost never need the trigger, but it seems

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 21, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jun 21, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Personally, I like alto trombone very much. My latest orch. piece used alto/ten/bass rather than the (now) more standard tenor 1/2, bass. Fortunately the player has and enjoys playing an

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 21, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: And of course, in the 20th-21st centuries, tenor trombone really means tenor-bass trombone, w. a trigger. I know a lot of first-trombonists prefer the old simplex tenor, because it is lighter in weight and 1st

Re: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-21 Thread Godofredo Romero
Office depot carries the Swingline - long reach- stapler which is ideal for this, i used it and are very happy with it. hope this helps. gr Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.06.2006 Lee Actor wrote: Now if I can just find a long-throw stapler that produces staples with flat legs instead of

Re: [Finale] Kiss Me, Kate books

2006-06-21 Thread Raymond Horton
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jun 17, 2006, at 10:29 AM, Carl Dershem wrote: Most shows have long stretches of I'd be reading the paper now, but the conductor would get mad, middling stretches of just plain work, and a few instances of let's hope I survive this bit tonight, but they almost

Re: [Finale] trombones and worm cans

2006-06-21 Thread Raymond Horton
Robert Patterson wrote: ... Where are the worms? No worms. This is what I thought was opening the can. I thought I was insulting cellists, but no one went for it, and it turned into a tame thread on clefs instead. Probably no cellists here. Maybe they are to busy practicing: ... RBH

RE: [Finale] trombones

2006-06-21 Thread Steve Currington
Of course British Brass Bands also don't have the strange additions to the brass band ala the wind section that American bands have. Aznd that strange bass the Sousa ;-) And when we talk British Brass we are actually only pigeon holing it it as this British style of brass band is worldwide.

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Carl Dershem
Robert Patterson wrote: I don't know of much RECENT music written for alto-tenor-bass orchestra sections, though that was overwhelmingly the case from Haydn up to Tchakovsky or so. Are you sure Tchaik wanted alto trombone? Generally, my impression is that alto trombone went out of fashion

Re: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs

2006-06-21 Thread Carl Dershem
Robert Patterson wrote: I think this all is part of the homogification of trombone sound. My preference is a brighter trombone sound easily distingushable from a french horn or euphonium, but (at least a few years ago) all the trombonists seemed to be striving for the same darkness as those

RE: [Finale] orchestra parts

2006-06-21 Thread Lee Actor
Is this a straight long-throw, or a saddle stapler? -Lee Office depot carries the Swingline - long reach- stapler which is ideal for this, i used it and are very happy with it. hope this helps. gr Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 21.06.2006 Lee Actor wrote: Now if I can just find a

Re: [Finale] Tremolos

2006-06-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Exactly 1/2 Jamin Hoffman wrote: Dear all - Is the proper way to represent unmeasured tremolos three slashes across the note, regardless of the value of the note? Thanks - Jamin