Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 15.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: This is consistent with what I would have expected to see after 2 years of communicating with thousands of users. Tyler, I certainly do not want to criticize you personally. However, MakeMusic's (and in fact Coda's) level of communication with its user bas

Re: [Finale] Adding a staff style to score only

On 15.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: Apparently the workflow for cues need some re-examination, unless there are some tricks I haven't figured out yet. There ought to be way to think about each cue exactly once. Personally I would say that Cue notes are the area where Finale has most defici

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 15.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: Allen Fisher: > You can also hide it in the score, and leave it in for the parts. The Unlink from Parts option is grayed out until there actually are parts present. What we were discussing is setting this up once in a template. Stupid. Really stupid.

Re: [Finale] 2K4-->2K7

On 15.08.2006 Andrew Stiller wrote: Anybody have any experience with updating files across this gap? Any problems I should watch out for? I haven't seen any, but in any case I would keep a copy of 2k4 on the Harddisk, and keep the old versions of the files. HD space is cheap these days. Jo

Re: [Finale] Finale UK dealer?

I *think* it's http://www.musicroom.com I emailed Etcetera and they are no longer UK distributors. They gave me the name and phone no. of the new people whom I phoned. I think they are in Suffolk. They said they would have Fin 2007 in this week and, in fact, it is on their site now. They a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

David W. Fenton wrote: On 15 Aug 2006 at 14:14, dc wrote: Tyler Turner écrit: Is it [Unicode support] requested as much as any of the major features implemented in Finale over the past few years? Not by a long shot. Textured paper springs to mind... From a programming standpoint, textured p

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

At 8/15/2006 06:41 PM, Morris Inouye wrote:   On 8/15/06, A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's not a question of just font but more in data processing.  Finale has to be Unicode native in order to run natively on current OSes. Sorry, I must have missed this statement. What OSes?  Mac? 

Re: [Finale] semi-OT: DP vs. Logic question

It seems to me that you should go with the same program your client uses--DP.  I'm also a former Mosaic user, but I don't think that you have to worry about DP being orphaned as Mosaic was.  MOTU just made the decision to put their R and D energies into creating a really good DAW, along with their

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

>>But precisely because it was such an easy thing to implement, and because the benefit to notation is zero and it is merely cosmetic and only works in Page View, what grates is the big splash such a tiny improvement made in the marketing hype. It was touted as a huge feature.>> Reminds me of a r

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

At 8/16/2006 07:35 AM, Richard Yates wrote: >Reminds me of a recent luxury car advertisement that made conspicuous >mention of the heated windshield washer fluid as if this was a major >engineering breakthrough. Reminds me of the Consumer Product Safety Commission requiring seat belts in cars a

Re: *** Spam *** Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 16.08.2006 Richard Yates wrote: Reminds me of a recent luxury car advertisement that made conspicuous mention of the heated windshield washer fluid as if this was a major engineering breakthrough. Recent? I have that in my very old car built in 1989... Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktu

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007, maestro font default, smart score default

On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:13 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: It's funny that MakeMusic did advertise the articulation improvements. Instead, on the website, they tout "Improved Authorization". http://finalemusic.com/finale/features/new/ authorization_improvements.aspx Woohoo. But the articulation

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

The lack of Unicode support in Finale is precisely why I went for Harmony Assistant. Enough said. Best regards, Jerry --- Tyler Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- A-NO-NE Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's not the point, tho. All the OSes process > > data in UTF-8/16 n

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Phil Daley / 2006/08/16 / 06:51 AM wrote: >What OSes?  Mac?  Linux? All but Windows as I mentioned. >There are zillions of Windows "non Unicode native" programs >that run perfectly on Windows. > I bet you have never used non English OS, yes? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston

Re: [Finale] semi-OT: DP vs. Logic question

Brian Williams / 2006/08/15 / 02:46 AM wrote: >Would it be better in the long term for me to go with Logic rather than DP? I am a DP/Performer user since 1987 who stopped upgrading Logic at version 6. I just couldn't deal with Logic mentality, that is, thinking music in Lego blocks :-) DP certa

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

At 8/16/2006 09:52 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >Phil Daley / 2006/08/16 / 06:51 AM wrote: > >>What OSes?  Mac?  Linux? > >All but Windows as I mentioned. > >>There are zillions of Windows "non Unicode native" programs >>that run perfectly on Windows. >> > >I bet you have never used non English OS, y

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Phil Daley / 2006/08/16 / 10:18 AM wrote: >I have run German and Polish WinNT Oh, OK. My apology. I should had said multi-byte language. Oracle was probably the first utf-8 commercial product widely used everywhere. NT5 kernel and later will process data in utf-8, but Windows display engine c

Re: *** Spam *** Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 16.08.2006 Richard Yates wrote: Reminds me of a recent luxury car advertisement that made conspicuous mention of the heated windshield washer fluid as if this was a major engineering breakthrough. Recent? I have that in my very old car built in 1989... Johannes J

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

John Howell wrote: At 12:15 AM -0400 8/15/06, Raymond Horton wrote: Richard Yates wrote: The Fin2K7 brochure says that a feature of linked parts is "Show different enharmonic spellings between the score and part." Can someone explain to me how this would ever be a useful feature? Richard

Re: [Finale] 2K4-->2K7

On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 15.08.2006 Andrew Stiller wrote: Anybody have any experience with updating files across this gap? Any problems I should watch out for? I haven't seen any, but in any case I would keep a copy of 2k4 on the Harddisk, and keep the old ver

[Finale] Installing WinFin2007

I just received and installed WinFin2007, with no problems but an idle curiosity: On the screen that allows the user to select the type of installation, Typical shows an installation size of 351,444KB. Selecting CUSTOM shows 0KB (as it should since nothing would be selected yet), yet if I the

RE: [Finale] Installing WinFin2007

ALSO: The first couple times I tried to do a custom install, a process called startnow.exe, or some such, took over 100% of my CPU and forced me to restart twice before I could actually install. Ive forgetten the name of the process now, but it was the process that examines a system to generate

[Finale] O. T. : Fiddling around?

A friend of mine recently purchased a violin from someone in rural Mississippi. It's obvious from the photo that "3rd position" was never used on the violin; and someone commented on the difference between a "fiddler" and a "violinist." The implication being, "serious" musicians are violinist, any

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

At 12:48 PM -0400 8/16/06, Raymond Horton wrote: Yes, but all of those should be enharmonically changed in both the score and the parts. I would ordinarily agree, but I'm not sure it's true in this case. (Or that it isn't!!) In the case of parts, you are changing the tablature by using en

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15.08.2006 Robert Patterson wrote: > > The Unlink from Parts option is grayed out until > there actually are parts present. What we were > discussing is setting this up once in a template. > > > Stupid. Really stupid. I'd call it necessary

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

I installed FinMac 2007 Monday night, and I must say that this upgrade is the most important to me since '04, which brought Finale into Mac OSX.  The linked parts feature is going to save me a tremendous amount of time, as well as disk space.  I was able to open an existing file, set up linked part

Re: [Finale] Installing WinFin2007

--- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So my question is, what is missing should a person > decide to select > Custom and then select every option? Given the huge > disparity between > the two installations (larger than my very first > hard drive was!), I > backed out and chose Typical so

Re: [Finale] O. T. : Fiddling around?

At 1:49 PM -0400 8/16/06, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: A friend of mine recently purchased a violin from someone in rural Mississippi. It's obvious from the photo that "3rd position" was never used on the violin; and someone commented on the difference between a "fiddler" and a "violinist." The impli

Re: [Finale] Installing WinFin2007

Tyler Turner wrote: --- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So my question is, what is missing should a person decide to select Custom and then select every option? Given the huge disparity between the two installations (larger than my very first hard drive was!), I backed out and chose Ty

Re: [Finale] O. T. : Fiddling around?

On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: A friend of mine recently purchased a violin from someone in rural Mississippi. It's obvious from the photo that "3rd position" was never used on the violin; and someone commented on the difference between a "fiddler" and a "violinist." The

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

On 16.08.2006 Tyler Turner wrote: I'd call it necessary. Where is an object going to show up at if it's not linked when the part is initially created? It sounds to me like we'd have some extremely unpredictable behavior if the creation of a part didn't initially have objects placed in the same wa

Re: [Finale] 2K4-->2K7

On 16.08.2006 Andrew Stiller wrote: but it feels very strange after all the trauma I continue to be going through as I discard about 5 older versions. Even when you update them, why would you ever discard them ie delete them? Finale files take up hardly any space. I keep them all around and

RE: [Finale] O. T. : Fiddling around?

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Gebauer > Sent: 16 August 2006 21:18 > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] O. T. : Fiddling around? > > > But how is it obvious on the violin that 3rd position was never used? > >

Re: [Finale] O. T. : Fiddling around?

On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: A friend of mine recently purchased a violin from someone in rural Mississippi. It's obvious from the photo that "3rd position" was never used on the violin; and someone commented on the difference between a "fiddler" and a "violinist." The

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

Ok .. after reading all the reviews and deciding that Fin07 is probably a good thing (i.e., more positives than negatives, I think) I shall order the upgrade immediately. Thank you all for the dialog and wish me luck. Dean ___ Finale mailing li

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

On 16 Aug 2006, at 2:49 PM, John Howell wrote: In the case of parts, you are changing the tablature by using enharmonic equivalents and giving it precedence over proper chord spelling. In the case of the score, the conductor needs to be able to read the chords, which should be spelled prop

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

Darcy James Argue / 2006/08/16 / 03:09 PM wrote: >For transposed scores, I disagree. The conductor should normally have >the same spelling as the players. If you make readability adjustments >to the enharmonics in the part, those should be included in the score >as well. I respectfully disa

[Finale] OT Performance Announcement

For those in the Milwaukee area, I am pleased to announce that I have received word from Mike Keegan that he will be performing my composition *"Introit for Solo Horn" *twice in the coming days. One performance will be at St. Mark's Episcopal Church, September 24th, for my horn recital, and t

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

On Aug 16, 2006, at 7:50 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Darcy James Argue / 2006/08/16 / 03:09 PM wrote: For transposed scores, I disagree. The conductor should normally have the same spelling as the players. If you make readability adjustments to the enharmonics in the part, those should be includ

[Finale] can anyone duplicate this behavior?

Hi Finale Gurus: I'm in F07 on Mac OS X I am getting odd behavior in parts concerning breaking a multimeasure rest, so I thought I'd start clean and test some settings. This is how I'm testing: I open a new doc, add two lines and some notes in all bars in top, and only in one bar in the others.

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

John Howell wrote: At 12:48 PM -0400 8/16/06, Raymond Horton wrote: Yes, but all of those should be enharmonically changed in both the score and the parts. I would ordinarily agree, but I'm not sure it's true in this case. (Or that it isn't!!) In the case of parts, you are changing the

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

Christopher Smith / 2006/08/16 / 09:14 PM wrote: >Even in a piece without a key signature, if you had a C#7 chord >resolving to F#m, and the melody outlined the C#7 chord, how could >you spell it except with an E#? Anything else would be MORE >confusing, not less. As I said "psychologically

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

On 16 Aug 2006, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Even in a piece without a key signature, if you had a C#7 chord resolving to F#m, and the melody outlined the C#7 chord, how could you spell it except with an E#? Well, let's say the progression is C#7 - F#mi7 and the line is (descendi

Re: [Finale] Finale 2007 review

--- Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I might be missing something, but what is wrong with > having items which > can be set to only display in the score, even before > parts exist. Ok, an > additional benefit might be to include a mechanism > which could > selectivly link them to

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

At 10:48 PM -0400 8/16/06, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 16 Aug 2006, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Even in a piece without a key signature, if you had a C#7 chord resolving to F#m, and the melody outlined the C#7 chord, how could you spell it except with an E#? I really appreciate the

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

John Howell / 2006/08/16 / 11:47 PM wrote: >Geez, why does music have to be so complicated?! I say "organic"! It's a living thing, y'know. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA

[Finale] test

I have posted a topic couple of day ago that had not been delivered to everyone after joining the list. Can anyone reply if this one goes through.   Thanks   Dejan Badnjar Musette Desktop Music Publishing 1 Eastview Cres. Orangeville, Ontario L9W 4X3 CANADA Tel.: (519) 942-0407 F

Re: [Finale] test

Dejan Badnjar wrote: I have posted a topic couple of day ago that had not been delivered to everyone after joining the list. Can anyone reply if this one goes through. Sorry - I didn't see this message. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# ___

[Finale] Cued Linked Parts

Has anybody cued the linked parts using the stuff styles, which seems to be the only way to cue the parts and preserve the "linkage" with the score? How reliable and/or messy is it? I just don't know if I should go for it or experiment later with something less important. Dejan Badnjar Musette

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

John Howell wrote: I really appreciate the comments on this question, and I am learning from them, but I just realized something. Every one of us, even those of us who know better, are assuming that 20th century bane, equal temperament. In any other tuning or temperament, G# and Ab are NOT

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic spelling and parts

I agree with Raymond. For non-string players, my experience is that the relationship between the choice of enharmonic spelling and the corresponding intonation has been wildly overstated, especially when it comes to post-1900 music. As he says, a good player tunes his note using his ears, n