Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5.1 adds MusicXML 2.0 import

Aaron Sherber wrote: At 08:35 PM 10/17/2007, Randolph Peters wrote: >Let me get this straight. Sibelius is offering a free upgrade within >a few months of releasing a new version and the upgrade fixes bugs >AND extends features? FWIW, the PDF listing changes and bug fixes is 18 pages long. I

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

Noel Stoutenburg wrote: [snip]> I wonder how many first time buyers in the UK are buying Finale in preference to S~? Go to , select the "software" tab, and look at the list of the top 10 bestsellers. Then do a search for Sibelius, and check out the new use

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5.1 adds MusicXML 2.0 import

Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 18.10.2007 Aaron Sherber wrote: FWIW, the PDF listing changes and bug fixes is 18 pages long. I'm not sure whether to be astonished that they've fixed so much in a maintenance release, or that there was so much in a mature product that needed fixing! Still better t

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5.1 adds MusicXML 2.0 import

Randolph Peters wrote: Let me get this straight. Sibelius is offering a free upgrade within a few months of releasing a new version and the upgrade fixes bugs AND extends features? I vaguely remember Finale doing that a long time ago... Sibelius 5.1 is such a significant upgrade for Windows

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

dc wrote: Noel Stoutenburg écrit: I can't speak for any current S~ users, but for my part, finding out that MakeMusic had such an offer like that for S~ users would irritate me mightily. Of course, I'd be irked also if had paid twice the price. Read the interesting article David F. posted o

Re: [Finale] word extensions over double bar bug

Hmmm. It's the default action for a word extension (assuming you are using "automatic" word extensions [I hesitate to call them "smart"]) for double bars. However, double click on the measure with the Measure Tool selected. There should be a checkbox that's labeled something like "Break smart word

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

At 07:29 PM 10/17/2007, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >use substantially equivalent products. As far as I know, it is _not_ >standard practice to offer to sell your product to user's of competitive >products at half the price you sell the product to your own user base. That's not true. Competitive cros

Re: [Finale] word extensions over double bar bug

I wrote: Sometimes the automatic word extensions disappear over a double bar line (i.e., 2 thin lines -- I use them at tempo changes). The fix is to change the double bar line to a single bar line, invoke the auto-word extension, and then reapply the double barline. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

...and in my case I picked up a half-price ($300) copy of Finale 2003 which does everything I need since the store was trying to get rid of their last copy. Never regretted it. Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk ___ Fi

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

--- Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I > >can't speak for any current S~ users, but for my > part, finding out that > >MakeMusic had such an offer like that for S~ users > would irritate me > >mightily. > > You mean like the $199 crossgrade price MM offers to > Sibelius owners?

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5.1 adds MusicXML 2.0 import

--- Randolph Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me get this straight. Sibelius is offering a > free upgrade within > a few months of releasing a new version and the > upgrade fixes bugs > AND extends features? > > I vaguely remember Finale doing that a long time > ago... Not so long ago.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5.1 adds MusicXML 2.0 import

--- dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sibelius 5.1 is such a significant upgrade for > Windows that it requires > you to uninstall Sibelius 5.0 before installing 5.1 > -- it replaces > everything. I don't see how the fact they make you install 5.0 before installing 5.1 tells us anything ab

[Finale] invisible graphic notation

Dear friends; Fin2005, WinXP. I need to enter some graphic notation into a score. I have tried importing it as a TIFF file, but have received "Finale does not support placing of LZW compressed TIFF files" message, meaning of which escapes me. So, I have drawn an approximation of it with the ex

Re: [Finale] invisible graphic notation

On Thu, October 18, 2007 11:50 am, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: > Fin2005, WinXP. I need to enter some graphic notation into a score. I have > tried importing it as a TIFF file, but have received "Finale does not > support placing of LZW compressed TIFF files" message, meaning of which > escapes me.

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

You mean like improving 4 things, forgetting to fix anything, and bundling it as Finale 2008 for existing users to suffer with for $99? That is pretty insulting as well. Tyler Turner wrote: The difference I see here is that Sibelius is selling the version 5 update to their loyal Sibelius 4 cus

[Finale] Another Perspective on MM and Finale Bug Fixes

I wonder if the lack of bug fixes in the initial release of Fin2008 and the lack of a Fin2008 update are due to the immanent release of Leopard. I believe that there are major changes, including kernel changes, coming with the new OS. If this is true and if I were MM, I would be putting all my reso

[Finale] Re: Sibelius 5.1 adds MusicXML 2.0 import

Hi Dennis, > Does this mean that with Finale 2008 the Dolet 4 plug-in > is not necessary to convert to Sibelius? I don't quite > understand... Finale 2008 saves in MusicXML 1.1 format, so you can take advantage of most of the Sibelius 5.1 improvements in MusicXML import without any additional s

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

Oh, and let me add that the Sibelius update has some really nice features for Mac users. # Spotlight support now included: find Sibelius files by any text contained within them # Quick Look support for Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard now included: look inside Sibelius scores directly via the Finder with

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

--- Eric Dannewitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't even know if Finale 2007/2008 is going to work > on Mac OS X > 10.5...and we won't even suggest that SmartMusic > 10.1 is going to > work with it..it crashed all the time if you had > Safari 3 (which > comes with 10.5) installed

[Finale] Finale & Leopard

Is it really likely that Finale, as it now exists, will not run on Leopard? Has anyone queried MM on this? TIA Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___

Re: [Finale] invisible graphic notation

I've gotten that message in WinFin200x a number of times - mainly if Ive tried to edit a tif in MSPaint. Raymond Horton dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: Dear friends; Fin2005, WinXP. I need to enter some graphic notation into a score. I have tried importing it as a TIFF file, but have received

Re: [Finale] OT Operating systems

Very much looking forward to time machine. And spotlight is a great tool if you have stuff that it can search. I don't believe finale files take full advantage of spotlight. The latest Sibelius update seems to cater to OS X and spotlight better. Sent on the go via my iPhone On Oc

Re: [Finale] A Sibelius List Now?

João Miguel Pais: Two questions, if I may: 1) How many Sibelius users in the UK and Europe are aware that the equivalent package is sold in the US for half what they paid for it? 2) What do you know about how existing Sibelius users anywhere feel about the special offer S~. has made to Final

Re: [Finale] A Sibelius List Now?

Score works on XP but on Vista you need to use DosBox or set up a virtual machine with xp or dos. Trent - Original Message - From: "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] A Sibelius List Now? On 19 Oct 2007 at 2:40, J

[Finale] Sib 5 question

I downloaded the Sib 5 Demo, so that I could get used to it before mine arrived. Is it normal, that in the Demo version, I can't get it to play back using the Kontakt II player? I activated it, but nada. Dean Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home Don't worry about the

Re: [Finale] A Sibelius List Now?

On 19 Oct 2007 at 2:40, João Miguel Pais wrote: > if you want full control of everything you want to > have in the page without going through tortuous paths, then buy an old > computer and get score Er, my understanding is that Score still runs just fine on all the latest versions of Windows

[Finale] OT Operating systems

On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: The most noticeable difference is the pervasiveness of Spotlight, which I absolutely hate. Me too - but I thought that it was just because I was thick headed about learning it. There are some things about Leopard I believe I will find usefu

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

On Oct 18, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Tyler Turner wrote: Personally I hate OS changes. I buy an OS for the programs I need to run, not for the features in the OS. To me an OS change just means I'm going to have to replace software, or worse, that some programs I use will never be available to me again.

Re: [Finale] My thoughts on Finale v. Sibelius

dhbailey wrote: If Noel would get irritated over finding that someone paid half what he paid for Finale, I wonder how he treats his academic and theological pals? They pay significantly less for it. Noel has no issue with academic and theological pals, since he was entitled to, and did, purcha

Re: [Finale] A Sibelius List Now?

I don't have much time to make an elaborate reply, so I'll just write what comes off of my head. probably in the next replies lots of corrections will be made. Disclaimers: - I use sibelius only for engraving of mainly new music for some publishers and individuals. The first thing I do when