[Finale] Finale for windows and Mac

2007-11-02 Thread Eisenbeil
Many thanks to all who responded to my questions about Finale for windows and Mac! You've all been very helpful. with gratitude, Bruce Eisenbeil 3. Finale for windows and Mac ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. Re: re: Harp Question (Barbara Touburg) 5. Re: Retrograde Tools (Aaron Sherber) 6. Re:

Re: [Finale] Rit. poco vs. Poco rit.

2007-11-02 Thread Giuliano Forghieri
Hello, your friend is imho almost correct: nobody here in Italy would use Rit. poco. However, that's not incorrect. Also, both diminuendo poco a poco and poco a poco diminuendo are correct. As far as fair usage is concerned, I think musicians get poco rit. and rit. poco the same way (at a

RE: [Finale] very OT notation (burn before reading!)

2007-11-02 Thread John Howell
At 12:01 PM -0400 11/1/07, Stu McIntire wrote: Thanks much for this history lesson. Regarding Greensleeves, does this mean that it is always historically incorrect to perform it with the fifth note NOT lowered? Hi, Stu. Of course not, but since we've all heard it sung both ways, I think

Re: [Finale] very OT notation (burn before reading!)

2007-11-02 Thread dhbailey
Stu McIntire wrote: Thanks much for this history lesson. Regarding Greensleeves, does this mean that it is always historically incorrect to perform it with the fifth note NOT lowered? Depends on how far back in history you want to go -- Jeff Beck did a wonderful acoustic guitar version back

RE: [Finale] very OT notation (burn before reading!)

2007-11-02 Thread Stu McIntire
Thanks much for this history lesson. Regarding Greensleeves, does this mean that it is always historically incorrect to perform it with the fifth note NOT lowered? Stu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Re: Retrograde Tools

2007-11-02 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Thu, November 1, 2007 6:16 pm, M LAWLOR wrote: This is exactly what I did, but Finale gives me the message: Do not attempt to retrograde any measures that are sources of mirrors. The measures I have attempted to retrograde or not sources of mirrors, as far as I am

Re: [Finale] Rit. poco vs. Poco rit.

2007-11-02 Thread John Howell
At 8:37 AM +0100 11/2/07, Giuliano Forghieri wrote: Hello, your friend is imho almost correct: nobody here in Italy would use Rit. poco. However, that's not incorrect. Also, both diminuendo poco a poco and poco a poco diminuendo are correct. As far as fair usage is concerned, I think

[Finale] Re: Retrograde Tools

2007-11-02 Thread M LAWLOR
My Question: [FINALE 2002, Windows XP] Are there any easy ways to create a retrograde (or inverted) copy of a passage? I have looked at the canonic utilities but cannot make any sense of how they work or whether they will do what I want. From Aaron Sherber: Select the passage with Mass Edit.

Re: [Finale] very OT notation (burn before reading!)

2007-11-02 Thread Robert Patterson
dhbailey wrote: Jeff Beck did a wonderful acoustic guitar version back in the 60s I find whole question of performance history and how it informs our listening to be quite interesting. This is especially true of tune like that for Greensleeves, with its meandering inflected 6th degree. Is

Re: [Finale] Rit. poco vs. Poco rit.

2007-11-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 01.11.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote: I have a client who has a strong preference for Poco rit. over Rit. poco. He has also consulted with a friend who is a native Italian speaker, who says that the passage quoted above is incorrect -- that Poco rit. is the correct Italian word order. I'm

Re: [Finale] very OT notation (burn before reading!)

2007-11-02 Thread John Howell
At 11:25 AM -0500 11/2/07, Robert Patterson wrote: dhbailey wrote: Jeff Beck did a wonderful acoustic guitar version back in the 60s I find whole question of performance history and how it informs our listening to be quite interesting. This is especially true of tune like that for

Re: [Finale] Re: Retrograde Tools

2007-11-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, November 1, 2007 6:16 pm, M LAWLOR wrote: This is exactly what I did, but Finale gives me the message: Do not attempt to retrograde any measures that are sources of mirrors. The measures I have attempted to retrograde or not sources of mirrors, as far as I am aware; but since Finale

Re: [Finale] very OT notation (burn before reading!)

2007-11-02 Thread Robert Patterson
John Howell wrote: The fact is that an excellent modern baroque orchestra DOES sound quite different from an excellent modern orchestra using 19th century performance practices, It would take a very deaf ear indeed for anyone to argue differently. I find nothing in what I've read of

[Finale] page turn key command

2007-11-02 Thread Jim Fischer
Is there a page turn key command for Finale? thx, jim :: j i m f i s c h e r :: p r o d u c e r :: m u s i c b o x p r o d u c t i o n s :: v a n c o u v e r, w a, u s a :: www.jimfischer.net -- :: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jimfischer.net *(((

Re: [Finale] page turn key command

2007-11-02 Thread dhbailey
Jim Fischer wrote: Is there a page turn key command for Finale? You could create a V.S. expression easily enough -- there isn't something similar to Sibelius' ability to place an eyeglasses icon or a V.S. marking at the bottom of pages with bad page turns automatically. At least not that

Re: [Finale] Rit. poco vs. Poco rit.

2007-11-02 Thread Mark D Lew
I have a client who has a strong preference for Poco rit. over Rit. poco. He has also consulted with a friend who is a native Italian speaker, who says that the passage quoted above is incorrect -- that Poco rit. is the correct Italian word order. I'm curious as to what the native Italian

Re: AW: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions

2007-11-02 Thread John Howell
David W. Fenton wrote: Quote: Netscape 6.0 is finally going into its first public beta. There never was a version 5.0. The last major release, version 4.0, was released almost three years ago. Three years is an awfully long time in the Internet world. During this time,

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:56 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 1 Nov 2007 at 8:33, Christopher Smith wrote: I have been sending work to other cities while never leaving my basement for ten years now. You must be getting very pasty and white by this time, like those fish who live in the water down

Re: [Finale] Rit. poco vs. Poco rit.

2007-11-02 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 01 Nov 2007, at 11:11 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: I have a client who has a strong preference for Poco rit. over Rit. poco. He has also consulted with a friend who is a native Italian speaker, who says that the passage quoted above is incorrect -- that Poco rit. is the correct Italian word

Re: [Finale] engraver slur bug

2007-11-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 02.11.2007 dc wrote: I'm hit by the engraver slur bug Johannes often mentioned. What is the best workaround? The main problem being that the slurs are not WYSIWYG - they don't print out as they appear on screen. The only thing you can do to be absolutely sure is this: In page view, on

Re: [Finale] page turn key command

2007-11-02 Thread Chuck Israels
Jim, David has taken your message to mean that you are looking for a graphic indication of a page turn. If this is the case, the Bill Duncan material that Nick Carter now sells has an elegant VS symbol with an arrow. Very nice. If you mean, is there a keyboard key command to turn the

Re: AW: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions

2007-11-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Nov 2007 at 14:11, John Howell wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: Quote: Netscape 6.0 is finally going into its first public beta. There never was a version 5.0. The last major release, version 4.0, was released almost three years ago. Three years is an awfully long

Re: [Finale] page turn key command

2007-11-02 Thread dhbailey
You know, it never occurred to me that he could have been asking about the operation of the program rather than some notational aspect. I think Chuck is probably more correct in what Jim was asking than I was. On windows that would be ctrl-pgdn to get to the next page and ctrl-pgup to get to

Re: [Finale] page turn key command

2007-11-02 Thread Christopher Smith
Chuck Israels wrote: the Bill Duncan material that Nick Carter now sells has an elegant VS symbol with an arrow. Very nice. Thank you. That one was my contribution. 8-) Christopher (who grabs credit whenever he can get it, after being passed over or mis-attributed on several important

Re: [Finale] stem question

2007-11-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On 2-Nov-07, at 3:37 AM, dc wrote: I don't think I was clear. I first enter the real bass, with its stems, that I need to keep. Say two half notes. Over each of these two half notes, I have 2 figures. So I enter in voice 2 4 quarter hidden rests. But these can cause the stems of my half

Re: [Finale] page turn key command

2007-11-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On 2-Nov-07, at 2:54 PM, Jim Fischer wrote: Is there a page turn key command for Finale? Not sure what you're asking here. Do you mean, can you get to a new page onscreen without mousing down to the page number box? Yes there is a command for this. On Mac it is command-pg down. On PC

Re: [Finale] stem question

2007-11-02 Thread Richard Huggins
I probably am not following you real well, and figured bass was so any music theory years agoUnless layers could be used instead of voices, I'm not sure what else to do except use note expressions instead of lyrics, which I guess would be truly impractical. You know, if you use

Re: [Finale] Rit. poco vs. Poco rit.

2007-11-02 Thread Mark D Lew
On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I think your client and his Italian friend are absolutely right. To me, poco rit sounds completely natural and rit poco sounds weird and awkward. I'm not a native speaker, but I'm moderately familiar with Italian and I see absolutely

OT (was Re: [Finale] Some Questions...)

2007-11-02 Thread Mark D Lew
On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: (But if I had an extra six million bucks lying around, I would DEFINITELY spend it to go up in the space shuttle, like Lance Bass almost did!) Wow. Not me. I'm not very materialistic at all, but I can think of a whole lot of things

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-02 Thread Chuck Israels
On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Richard Smith wrote: 3. Do e-mails and attachments (along with occasional phone calls) make long distance (even international) work practical. I can't answer the other questions, but the answer to this seems to be a resounding yes. Gary Garritan is

Re: [Finale] stem question

2007-11-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Nov 2, 2007, at 5:28 PM, dc wrote: Christopher Smith écrit: You can set Layer Options for Layer 1 to NEVER flip stems, ties or displace rests, which would solve your problem. However, if you ever NEEDED the stems flipped and rests displaced, you would just have to set Layer 3 for that, and

Re: [Finale] page turn key command

2007-11-02 Thread Jari Williamsson
dhbailey wrote: there isn't something similar [...] At least not that I've ever known about. Look in the PI menu the next time. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] stem question

2007-11-02 Thread Barbara Touburg
dc wrote: Christopher Smith écrit: You can set Layer Options for Layer 1 to NEVER flip stems, ties or displace rests, which would solve your problem. However, if you ever NEEDED the stems flipped and rests displaced, you would just have to set Layer 3 for that, and use 3 for the upper of two

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: Christopher Smith offered valuable early in the process (by email from Montreal), Thanks, man! I guess you read my last message about me grabbing credit... 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-02 Thread John Howell
At 5:02 AM -0400 11/1/07, dhbailey wrote: Richard Smith wrote: 2. Should publishers publishers out source engraving work as needed or is in house engraving a better choice? That also depends on the nature of the publishers. There have always been small niche-market publishers as well

Re: [Finale] Some Questions... mail delays

2007-11-02 Thread Chuck Israels
BTW, This took about 36 hours to arrive on the list while a later posting arrived promptly. Go figure! Chuck On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Richard Smith wrote: 3. Do e-mails and attachments (along with occasional phone calls)

Re: [Finale] very OT notation (burn before reading!)

2007-11-02 Thread Richard Smith
Robert Patterson wrote: But even in much more recent history, where the composer is well-known, questions abound. Here are two thorny ones from the world of horn music. Brahms wrote is horn trio for the natural horn, but because it was so difficult without valves, and because valve-horn