On 2/23/2014 8:15 PM, Patrick Sheehan wrote:
...and that's why we should always avoid repeats. Roadmaps suck. Written
out beginning to end poses no problems (!)
Assuming that decent page turns can be created . . .
--
David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats
I have a problem I just can't figure out. I am using F2014, but it
might be the same in earlier releases.
My problem is my score has Sign ... To Coda ... D.S. al coda ... Coda.
As far as I can tell, all 4 of those marks have exactly
Well, there are trade-offs, of course. For jazz band charts, I like to
keep the parts to 2 pages for horns and drums, 3 for bass, and no more
than 4 for piano. But I never do a DS or DC that will go back more
than one page.
If there are good opportunities for page turns, I don't mind going
On 2/23/2014 5:44 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
Well, there are trade-offs, of course. For jazz band charts, I like to
keep the parts to 2 pages for horns and drums, 3 for bass, and no more
than 4 for piano. But I never do a DS or DC that will go back more
than one page.
If there are good
In my last post, I said that in older versions of Finale repeat text
attached to the last measure of a multimeasure rest region would not show.
Actually, now that I think about it, the way Finale used to behave is that
it automatically would not include measures that had repeat text attached
to
Exactly as I see it too. There haven't been many revolutionary changes
in Finale in the past 4 or 5 years, but there have been a whole bunch of
subtle refinements that really do represent progress. I just wish when
they are working with a feature such as showing repeat markers in the
last
On 2/3/14 10:00 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
I put the necessary expressions in the score (above the first measure of
what will be a MM rest in each part - a pain in the ass to figure out if
that first measure of rest comes in different places for different
instruments) -
On 2014-02-01 00:07, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
and even then you can drag the marks
assigned to the FIRST measure of a mm rest.
In Page View, you're just editing the first measure content of the MM
rest. With repeat text that might be confusing, since the measure
contents of the last measure is
On 2/2/2014 3:15 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
In Page View, you're just editing the first measure content of the MM
rest. With repeat text that might be confusing, since the measure
contents of the last measure is also displayed. Use Scroll View and
edit the position of the repeat text of
Since you mentioned that the problem most likely originated when you first
created the text repeat in an awkward location, and then when you tried to
fix that, it only changed its position in the score, I would recommend
re-linking the expression to the score/parts, moving the master (score)
text
Sorry, I meant to use text repeat instead of expression in my last
post.
-Brian
___
Finale mailing list
Finale@shsu.edu
http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Brian Williams wrote:
Sorry, I meant to use text repeat instead of expression in my last
post.
Freudian slip? :)
I'm with Christopher on this question - I *always* use expressions for text
repeats, and cccasionally I've even inserted them in the measure AFTER a MM
rest to make sure they're
On 2/2/2014 3:34 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
I'm with Christopher on this question - I *always* use expressions for
text repeats, and cccasionally I've even inserted them in the measure
AFTER a MM rest to make sure they're visible. If I ever want to record
the playback I use hidden text repeats
On Feb 2, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:
On 2/2/2014 3:34 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
I'm with Christopher on this question - I *always* use expressions for
text repeats, and cccasionally I've even inserted them in the measure
AFTER a MM rest to make sure they're
Craig Parmerlee wrote:
On 2/2/2014 3:34 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
I'm with Christopher on this question - I *always* use expressions for
text repeats, and cccasionally I've even inserted them in the measure
AFTER a MM rest to make sure they're visible. If I ever want to record
the playback I
On 2/2/2014 6:52 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
It's not elegant. It's clumsy - but it does work, and it's the only
way I know to accomplish a part that looks right.
It seems to me that Jari's solution, while still a work-around, will
allow you to get the parts to look right without having to
On 2/2/2014 7:50 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
Well, in my book you *should* break a MM rest to show embedded markers
and expressions etc. To reach a D.S. or To Coda etc. before you've
finished counting the empty measures seems very wrong to me, and I
guess to Finale's authors too..
Finale
On 1/30/2014 11:57 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
I have a problem I just can't figure out. I am using F2014, but it
might be the same in earlier releases.
My problem is my score has Sign ... To Coda ... D.S. al coda ... Coda.
As far as I can tell, all 4 of those marks have exactly the same
Repeats are very buggy as to placement. They shift around according to wind
direction, season, or moon phase (actually, I think the measurements change
according to staff size, so it only seems arbitrary) and are hard to change
without affecting all other instances, as you discovered.
If you
H. That may account for everything. I'll go back in and test that
this afternoon. However, my situation is that I have an 8-bar section
between double pars. The To Coda happens at the end of the 7th bar.
I want it to show a 7-bar mm rest with the To Coda carefully placed at
the
In your case, I would leave the To Coda in place, but hide it (for playback).
Then I would add an expression for correct visuals. The expression can be
attached to the 8th measure instead, or it can be added to the parts with a
metatool, attaching it to the multimeasure rest (Finale thinks that
I'm on a mac in 2011. I haven't seen the problem of expressions being
unmovable in certain parts, but I don't use repeats that often. Maybe that
would be affected by checking/unchecking Allow Individual Edits Per Staff
in the Text Repeat Assignment window (Edit Repeat Assignment in
the contextual
It was the multimeasure problem. I'm on Windows, but I assume the same
bug exists in Mac. If one of these repeat markers is attached to a
measure that is within a mm rest you can't move it, period. This may
apply to things other than repeats, but that is my present problem. I
was able to
Thanks for that idea. I'll keep that in the bag of tricks. In this
case, I am able to get what I need by breaking the mm rest, moving the
To Coda mark, and then recreating the mm rest.
In reality, I have decided to through-compose that section anyway now.
I am adding an open for solos
Am I missing something here? A to coda instruction should break a mm rest, even
if it's the last measure of an mm rest. Maybe that's not the Finale default,
but I would break an mm rest for anything like a fermata, to coda, etc. I
wrong to do that?
Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all
Craig,
I'm still not sure why you're having a problem with this and I'm not. Two
simple moves and the part was good to go--could be one move just as easily.
Version or platform make a difference, do you think?
Don
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Williams, Jim
jwilli...@franklincollege.edu
Let me see if I can explain more clearly. I have an 8-bar section --
bars 50-57 -- where most of the winds are resting. The To coda jump
occurs at the end of bar 56. That is where I placed the mark in the
score. In the parts that are resting, I expect to see a SEVEN BAR mm
rest (50-56)
What were your two simple moves? Are you saying that when the To
coda mark is within a mm rest, you are able to drag the To coda
mark? I cannot.
I don't have any reason to suspect this is a new bug. I bet it has been
out there forever. But I am running F1400a on Windows 7, FWIW.
On
My two moves after placement were to drag the exp. further to the right (in
the score; I see now that they cannot be moved in the part) and to make the
mm rest wide enough to avoid collisions. FWIW, you should be able to move
the exp. in the score after the part is made and not have to
I'm going to jump in with my 2 cents worth. As usual (maybe always:),
Christopher has it right. What Craig describes as looking amateurish and
cluttered is built into Finale's way of handling expressions on MM rests. As
Christopher points out, Finale only knows how to show an expression as
Sorry, Chuck, Craig, I was confusing in my last post. Craig's initial
question was about text repeats and I wrongly started calling them
expressions. My bad. - Don
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
I'm going to jump in with my 2 cents worth. As usual
On 1/31/2014 3:58 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
if an expression in the score is attached to the last measure of a MM rest,
it will appear in the part only if that last measure is broken off
This is not actually what I am seeing with F2014a. My To Coda is
attached to measure 56. There are double
On 1/31/2014 3:58 PM, Don Hart wrote:
FWIW, you should be able to move
the exp. in the score after the part is made and not have to
break/re-create mm rests
Not in my case, I don't think. I have this To coda mark assigned to
the top staves only. This is the default and a good one. I hate
Have you set a staff list for it? I get handles for the markings that only
show in parts and can adjust position independently in the score if Allow
Individual Edits Per Staff is checked.
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.comwrote:
On 1/31/2014 3:58 PM, Don Hart
Is the failure of the repeat text to appear in the part not the same
problem I had the other week? Go into the Staff tool, double click on the
staff and in the resulting dialogue box check endings and text repeats
Cheers,
Lawrence
On 31 January 2014 22:00, Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com
On 1/31/2014 5:03 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote:
Is the failure of the repeat text to appear in the part not the same
problem I had the other week? Go into the Staff tool, double click on the
staff and in the resulting dialogue box check endings and text repeats
The repeat markers ARE appearing
I have a problem I just can't figure out. I am using F2014, but it
might be the same in earlier releases.
My problem is my score has Sign ... To Coda ... D.S. al coda ... Coda.
As far as I can tell, all 4 of those marks have exactly the same
settings (Show on top staff only). The only
37 matches
Mail list logo
