{Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/21/2010 1:43 PM, John Howell wrote: At 7:24 AM -0500 11/21/10, David H. Bailey wrote: I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a chart somewhere which does things in reverse? So that looking at a

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread John Howell
At 6:46 AM -0500 11/22/10, David H. Bailey wrote: What I meant by in reverse is that if I'm looking at a written F in an F horn part, I can use the mezzo-soprano clef to get the concert pitch note (Bb). But what if I'm looking at a concert pitch score, how do I figure out what note the F

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread christopher.smith
- Original Message - From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 1:17 pm Subject: Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts To: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com, finale@shsu.edu At 6:46 AM -0500 11/22/10, David H. Bailey wrote

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread Ryan
with the other clefs that it would slow me down immeasurably. I have nothing but respect for those among you who read them easily! christopher - Original Message - From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 1:17 pm Subject: Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread christopher.smith
- Original Message - From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:56 pm Subject: Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts To: finale@shsu.edu What method do you use if the horn part doesn't have a key signature? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:01 AM

{Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread David H. Bailey
I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a chart somewhere which does things in reverse? So that looking at a part for F horn, for example, which is printed in the treble clef, what clef would one use to

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Subject: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:24 PM I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread David H. Bailey
use of C clefs for voice parts To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:24 PM I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a chart somewhere which does things in reverse? So that looking at a part

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread John Howell
At 7:24 AM -0500 11/21/10, David H. Bailey wrote: I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a chart somewhere which does things in reverse? So that looking at a part for F horn, for example, which is

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-20 Thread Allen Fisher
My trumpet teacher at Ohio State in the early 1990's insisted that all his students learn clefs in order to transpose on sight. Drives all my friends nuts... :) Allen On 6 Nov, 2010, at 1:22 PM, John Howell wrote: As a bonus, once you have learned to use the entire system of movable clefs,

[Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread Florence + Michael
I recently received the conductor's score of Gounod's Faust (Henschelverlag Berlin, 1972). I was surprised to find C-clefs used for the voice parts in a score this recent: all female voices are written in soprano clef and the tenors in tenor clef. I thought this practice had died out in the

{Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Florence + Michael wrote: I recently received the conductor's score of Gounod's Faust (Henschelverlag Berlin, 1972). I was surprised to find C-clefs used for the voice parts in a score this recent I'm not surprised to see them in a conductors score, as I've run across others, while

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread John Howell
At 10:14 AM +0100 11/6/10, Florence + Michael wrote: I recently received the conductor's score of Gounod's Faust (Henschelverlag Berlin, 1972). I was surprised to find C-clefs used for the voice parts in a score this recent: all female voices are written in soprano clef and the tenors in

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Nov 2010 at 10:14, Florence + Michael wrote: I recently received the conductor's score of Gounod's Faust (Henschelverlag Berlin, 1972). I was surprised to find C-clefs used for the voice parts in a score this recent: all female voices are written in soprano clef and the tenors in tenor

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread Florence + Michael
On 6 Nov 2010, at 19:22, John Howell wrote: Gounod is hardly what I'd call a recent composer, since he died in 1910. And that score is undoubtedly a reprint of a much earlier edition. Of course Gounod isn't a recent composer, but that edition is recent and certainly not a reprint of an

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread John Howell
At 10:06 PM +0100 11/6/10, Florence + Michael wrote: Of course Gounod isn't a recent composer, but that edition is recent and certainly not a reprint of an earlier edition. It was completely new in 1972, edited by Fritz Oeser who put back passages that Gounod had cut before the premiere.