On 2/17/2012 7:23 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
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> On Fri Feb 17, at FridayFeb 17 7:03 PM, Ryan wrote:
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>> Can't wait until Finale 2013 when I can pay to have this feature restored
>> again.
>
>
> That's the ticket! Stay optimistic that it will be fixed!
>
If we didn't do that, MakeMusic would go
On Fri Feb 17, at FridayFeb 17 7:03 PM, Ryan wrote:
> Can't wait until Finale 2013 when I can pay to have this feature restored
> again.
That's the ticket! Stay optimistic that it will be fixed!
Christopher
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At least MakeMusic admits it now, too. Here's part of their response after
I called Tech Support:
"Finale 2012 appears to not have the easy option to accomplish this task
like in the previous versions. I have flagged this to our development team
as a feature request. "
Can't wait until Finale 201
I agree.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Robert Patterson <
rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
> The question is, why jump through all those hoops? The old way was vastly
> superior to the current implementation (for transposition). I probably will
> avoid using Fin12 for any projects that need
The question is, why jump through all those hoops? The old way was vastly
superior to the current implementation (for transposition). I probably will
avoid using Fin12 for any projects that need more than band instrument
transpositions.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Jari Williamsson <
jari.will
On 2012-02-16 03:32, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> The choice of instrument in the score manager only informs
> what playback instrument is selected by default.
It goes deeper than this. Always try to select the closest "relative" in
the instrument list (if the instrument isn't directly available).
On 2012-02-16 05:48, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> I wholeheartedly agree that Score Manager should allow "Unknown"
> (or perhaps "Untitled") instruments and allow you to rename
> existing instruments. Hopefully these features are coming soon.
Unless I misunderstand what you need, it's called "Blank
On 15 Feb 2012, at 9:41 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> But as far as I can tell, every instance of "Mellophone" will have the same
> tweaked settings, so the more tweaks you need the more instruments you have
> to consume.
Sure, but there are lots of canned instruments to tweak. And the fact that
But as far as I can tell, every instance of "Mellophone" will have the same
tweaked settings, so the more tweaks you need the more instruments you have
to consume.
My understanding is Ryan wants to have some sections of his piece based on
key signature transpositions and some chromatic. I know I
Robert and Ryan,
The choice of instrument in the score manager only informs what playback
instrument is selected by default. You can modify the playback instrument in
the Score Manager, so you could easily choose "Mellophone" and then tweak the
playback and transposition settings to get whateve
Hi Ryan,
You can change whether or not an instrument uses chromatic transposition in the
Score Manager. Just select "Other... " from the drop-down Transposition menu.
Using the canned "Horn in Eb" and tweaking the transposition settings will give
you exactly what you want.
Cheers,
- DJA
Well, you could designate an instrument you aren't using, e.g., Mellophone
to be Horn in E and use it in the score wherever you want Horn in E. But
then all your horn section would sound like Mellophones in those passages.
I hadn't about it but you're right. The choice of Chromatic or
non-chromati
Oh, and they only have one canned version of a Wagner Tuba? - in B alto.
Try re-writing anything by Wagner using only one kind of Wagner Tuba...
(They're missing F, and F basso, and Eb, and Bb basso...etc.)
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Robert Patterson <
rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
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Thanks. Unfortunately, I do care about playback.
While the method you suggest works for just a single line, it is completely
unusable in an orchestral score [without SIGNIFICANT workarounds].
It is quite a regression in functionality, isn't it? I guess I'll keep
running Fin2010 for a while for cert
The challenge is that there is no canned instrument "Horn in E". The whole
Fin12 approach is based on the ill-conceived assumption that a change of
transposition means a change of instrument.
If you don't care about playback, it's fairly simple. For the sections of
Horn in E, use Utilities->Change
OK, Darcy & Robert,
Maybe I've missed something in the help file, but how do I change
transpositions within a piece?
Example, I'm re-writing an orchestral horn part so I can read off of a
clean copy without years and years of pencil marks and erasures.
It's written for Horn in F for a while, then c
I heartily agree the previous way was flawed, and the more I tinker with
the new way the more I find it okay and in some ways improved. One concern
I do have, though, is setting up and applying transpositions other than
those one encounters in a wind band is quite tedious, especially compared
with
That is true. Instrument changes only apply to full measures. This a drawback.
But you may be mistaken about transposing Staff Styles. I'm pretty sure they
only applied to full measures as well.
Christopher
On Wed Feb 15, at WednesdayFeb 15 5:34 PM, Bernard Nussbaumer wrote:
> Unless I misse
Unless I missed something else, I didn't find how to have an instrument
change "in the middle" of the measure; if you choose "Instrument Change",
it applies for whole measures only.
I know, if you go from saxophone to flute, you have generally more than one
measure to take the instrument. But, howe
On 2012-02-15 22:11, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> I agree the lack of visual feedback regarding transposition changes
> is a serious problem and needs fixing.
...and when it's fixed, the visual feedback should be modeless - not
modal as Staff Style bars are.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
Hi Robert,
I agree the lack of visual feedback regarding transposition changes is a
serious problem and needs fixing.
On the other hand, the old system of using staff styles for instrument changes
was severely broken. When clearing measures of entries (via the clear key), the
instrument staff
I am just a newbie to Fin12, but I am coming to really hate the Score
Manager. I suppose if I had never learned the old way it wouldn't seem so
bad, but I'm an old dog, and this seems like a new trick of little value.
Up until now I had refrained from whining about the Score Manager because I
hadn
That's okay, I had missed it entirely myself and had to get this technique from
Tech Support. So I pass it on!
Christopher
On Wed Feb 15, at WednesdayFeb 15 8:16 AM, Bernard Nussbaumer wrote:
> Great, thanks Christopher,
>
> I did look in the Help Files, but not in the best place... I should
Great, thanks Christopher,
I did look in the Help Files, but not in the best place... I should have
read more carefully the "Score Manager" chapter; as English isn't my
primary language, I understand almost everything I read in the Help Files,
but sometimes I miss something important (while trying
You go to the part, open the Score Manager. Only the part you are in will show.
Click Unlink All Instruments in This Staff and you can change instruments
without it showing in the score. You can do this to create alternate parts,
too, like bass clef trombone and Bb treble clef trombone using the
Hi all,
(Finale 2012 - Windows)
In the "Staff Styles" Window, the transposition and the clef settings have
disappeared (since these settings are to be found in the Score Manager).
I need to set a part as a transposed instrument, but I don't want the
transposition to apply in the Score.
Any ideas
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