white markings

1999-05-24 Thread Alison Bakken
This message is from: Alison Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list. Ihave tried to answer a few of the question but have not been able to get connected. I will try again. The question of white markings. Fjord pictures from the early days of Fjords in Norway included horses with white markings

Albino and Lethal White

1999-05-24 Thread bcjdvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the albino does not exist in the horse? What people call albinos in horses are simply white horses. When albinism occurs in the horse it is termed lethal white because the foal dies in utero. If one does make it to term, it dies very

more White Dun vs Albino

1999-05-24 Thread bcjdvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bonnie, Keep in mind that Fjord colors were originally named in Norway and that we don't necessarily use the same names for the same colors over here. I also wouldn't be surprised if something was lost in the translation from Norwegian to English. And

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread B. Hendricks
This message is from: B. Hendricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean: I'll write to Phil and get a copy of his article. The last seven years have been real hectic for me and I've missed out on a lot. I have both of his books, and while I've nosed through them, haven't had a chance to sit down and just

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bonnie, Phillip Sponenberg, who you say is a friend of yours, wrote an article on Color in Fjord horses for the Fjord Herald, Issue #21/22, winter /Spring 1992. Perhaps Mike has it handy and could copy it and put it on the NFHR website.

Re: CLAC-86 bug repellent: first report

1999-05-24 Thread Steve McIlree
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean-- Wednesday, May 12, 1999, you wrote: I sprayed a 1:7 dilution of the CLAC concentrate all over except the face and rubbed some by hand on their faces ...snip... I don't know how it works for gnats and flies. Have the others on the

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread B. Hendricks
This message is from: B. Hendricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean: This is really interesting! I never personally experimented with the white or dilution genes much, but have friends that deal with it all the time breeding paints and appaloosas, one being a color geneticist. Personally, I've had a

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bonnie, I am glad to see you mention Sponenberg. I have both of his books and was about to suggest you look at them. Historicly, before much was known about color genetics, the ulsblak or white dun was quite popular, but fell out of favor

White Dun vs Albino

1999-05-24 Thread Lori Albrough
This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike May, Registrar NFHR wrote: Did you know that the albino does not exist in the horse? What people call albinos in horses are simply white horses. When albinism occurs in the horse it is termed lethal white because the foal dies in

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread B. Hendricks
This message is from: B. Hendricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi: I'm not sure what a Merle is... my dog was a blue/black and white Australian Shepherd that we got from a rancher (out of his litter) and she was bred to a dog her same color, actually an accident but one of the kids let her out. Out of five

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread B. Hendricks
This message is from: B. Hendricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mike: Well, I don't know how they call them in the Fjord family - I don't know if the Fjord has a classification for white other than to call him a white dun. Dun however, does have some color. If the horse was that so far unfound true

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread Mark and Lisa McGinley
This message is from: Mark and Lisa McGinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] B. Hendricks wrote: This also occurs in other animals (lethal white) and quite often in Australian Shepherd dogs, where if the white pups do survive, they are either blind or deaf or both. This only happens when two Merles,

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:51 AM 5/24/99 +, you wrote: This message is from: B. Hendricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the albino does not exist in the horse? What people call albinos in horses are simply white horses. When albinism occurs

Re: White Duns

1999-05-24 Thread Mike May
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:39 PM 5/24/99 -0400, you wrote: Speaking of Modellen, did I hear he passed away? Is this true? Anyone know what happened? Yes it is true. He died from a colic from what I have heard.

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:41 AM 5/24/99 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:43 AM 5/24/99 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modellen has 27 Brown Dun, 18 White Dun 1 Albino

Fwd: Dr. Beth Valentine

1999-05-24 Thread Mike May
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dr. Beth Valentine Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:41:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Mike May, A short note about ESPM and the location of Dr. Beth Valentine. I have

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread B. Hendricks
This message is from: B. Hendricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that the albino does not exist in the horse? What people call albinos in horses are simply white horses. When albinism occurs in the horse it is termed lethal white because the foal dies in utero. If one does make it to term, it

White Duns

1999-05-24 Thread MinkHolow
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Jean, Thanks for the info, We just purchased a white dun recently named MVF Sara. She is a 2nd premium imported from Norway. Her Sire is Garjo (sire Hovdaren-Dam Bjorka) and her Dam is Siri ( Sire Norden, Dam Freia) She is super white with dark

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:43 AM 5/24/99 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modellen has 27 Brown Dun, 18 White Dun 1 Albino registered with the NFHR. It would be interesting to know is the albino has pink skin.., etc. and is really

Re: oops!!/white duns in North America

1999-05-24 Thread Mike May
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:56 AM 5/21/99 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] How many white offspring does Modellen have now? Modellen is distantly related to Line and Stella by the way. Modellen has 27 Brown Dun, 18 White

Re: white duns

1999-05-24 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:08 PM 5/23/99 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been away most of this month, but just saw the question about Modellen and white duns. Modellen produced about 25% white. I have

Re: Misnamed Fjord Colors

1999-05-24 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:38 AM 5/22/99 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Nancy Lehnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, this is a question for you: What is the NFHR's policy on correcting the color category on a horse registered in Canada who has been