Re: CLARIFY STALLION STRENGTH

1999-08-07 Thread Arthur Rivoire
itive, and >Von Bon's comments you repeated about declining stallion "strength" >are anything but contradictory. > Will you clarify this for us? I'll try. First of all, Steve, Van Bon never said anything about a general "declining of stallion strength.&quo

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-06 Thread Northhorse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/6/99 4:44:34 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I myself don't think that the teenagers of today are any weaker than they were 50 or 100 years ago. >> Amen! I read the line about "soft" teenagers and laughed! Th

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-06 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:24 PM 8/5/99 -0300, you wrote: Why are today's teenagers weaker than than their grandparents were? Sounds like an interesting topic of conversation to me. This is the problem exactly with generalizing in general. ;-)

Re[2]: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread Steve McIlree
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol-- Thursday, August 05, 1999, you wrote: > Why is it when I bring up a subject, you call it "self-serving"? > Sorry to have mentioned Gjest's name, but it's one of the stallions > Van Bon used as an example of strong, older stallions.

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread Arthur Rivoire
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Good Day from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - To Steve - Why is it when I bring up a subject, you call it "self-serving"? Sorry to have mentioned Gjest's name, but it's one of the stallions Van Bon used as an example

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:20 AM 8/5/99 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Mike. I'd love to know just how many fjords there are in this country. So would I. If you figure out how to find that out let me know. ==

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread B. Hendricks
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Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:42 AM 8/5/99 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, I just checked the Canadian Fjord Horse Association page on the CLRC Website http://www.clrc.on.ca/fjord.html and looked up Ru

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread wcoli
ystems being positive, and Von Bon's comments you repeated about declining stallion "strength" are anything but contradictory. Will you clarify this for us? > > Those people gloating over the "weaknesses" in European stallions vs. the > "strengths"

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, I just checked the Canadian Fjord Horse Association page on the CLRC Website http://www.clrc.on.ca/fjord.html and looked up Rudaren and Leidjo. Rudaren (who died in l995) has 75 offspring REGISTERED with the CFHA and Leidjo has 93 off

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread JBonner748
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Mike. I'd love to know just how many fjords there are in this country.

Host's comments on stallion strength & quandaries

1999-08-05 Thread brassringranch
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for bringing out the points you did. I have a hard time reading anything from BDF because I get tired of self promotion. Advertising usually costs money & I've noticed that in print advertisements in the US at the top of the page it often says "pai

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:50 PM 8/4/99 -0400, you wrote: NOT that this has much to do with fjords . With the limited number of fjords in the states we'll keep bumping into the same bloodlines and I don't think many stallions will be breeding 40+

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-05 Thread carl and sarah nagel
Nagel feeling so much better in Northern Idaho with June and Sonny :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Stallion Strength >This message is from: [E

Re: Stallion Strength/ Gov. involement

1999-08-04 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sarah, just a little bit of perspective on this Gov't involvemnt issue as regards breeding: In the U.K. the Agricultural Society sponsors (read supports), several improvement schemes for breeding the various categories over there,

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Nathan Lapp
This message is from: "Nathan Lapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >As individuals, breeders can do a much superior job of breeding their horses >than can a government controlled agency. We DON'T need the government to >tell us what stallions or mares to breed Thanks, Sarah, for sharing this. Breed assoica

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Northhorse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/4/99 16:43:55 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I wonder what is the ideal number of females to each male in a purebred limited gene pool? >> I don't know about the limited gene pool, but I know with TB's they

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Meredith Sessoms
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wonder what is the ideal number of females to each male in a purebred limited gene pool? If there are too many males, you won't have any breed type. If there are too few males being used, when problems crop up they get entrenched

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Heithingi
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Vivian, Thanks so much for clarifying that! I was wondering how on earth these countries found the time, people, etc., to control all the various horse breeds. Lynda Daniel Bailey and Lynda C. Welch Bailey Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm Whit

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Reinbowend
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Breeding of Fjord Horses as well as other breeds in the Netherlands is "controlled" by independent stud books not the Dutch government. The Fjord stud book cannot make you geld your stallion however it will issue papers of resulting offspring in a color t

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread MNoonan931
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here Here Sarah, you said it beautifully, Anything but our government getting involved, who knows what we would get!! HAHAHAHAHAHA Michele Noonan Visiting in Washington right now and wanting to be home!!! miss my Fjords

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Northhorse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/4/99 9:29:40 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << As individuals, breeders can do a much superior job of breeding their horses than can a government controlled agency. We DON'T need the government to tell us what sta

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Lynn Mohr
This message is from: "Lynn Mohr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I see your point, but don't nessacarily agree. Perhaps it would be better if your notes didn't always end with a statement, of your opinion, that can be taken as an insult by many fjord owners and breeders in the US and Canada.

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Northhorse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/4/99 8:04:48 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << When North America has a system that even comes close to this, then maybe we'll have the right, and the knowledge, to criticize. Until then, I'd advise listening to a

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread carl and sarah nagel
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, being so new to this, I'm not sure I'm qualified at all to comment. But I do have a perspective I'd like to share for thought among the group. And it may be more an overall "way of life" comment than specific to breeding Fjords

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:50 AM 8/4/99 -0300, you wrote: When North America has a system that even comes close to this, then maybe we'll have the right, and the knowledge, to criticize. Until then, I'd advise listening to and learning from Europ

Re: Stallion Strength

1999-08-04 Thread Arthur Rivoire
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Good Day, from Carol at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - I seem to have a hard time making my points clear. When I mentioned Chief Inspector, Bob Van Bon's remarks re the "strength" of current day stallions vs. those of years past, I wa