This message is from: "Jim Barnhart"
We have a Gypsy that was anemic when we got him. They had him on Red Cell
as part of his diet. When we got him to MN we switched him over to our hay
and grain (no Red Cell, for some reason my vet doesn't like it), then our
vet checked him after a couple mon
This message is from: Gail Russell
If he has access to spring grass, that may be causing his ouchy feet.
. he suggested Red Cell which i now have him on, along
> with biotin for his ouchie feet.
Gail Russell
Forestville Ca
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o, the vet was out for shots this week and i had him do a CBC and
> blood workup. his temp was normal, he's eating, pooping, etc. just sluggish.
> a little heavy, but not obese.
>
> he came back with normal white cells (no infection), and kidney and liver
> stuff was fine. the only
This message is from: "Teressa"
My mare has had anemia off and on - mostly due to her kidney problems; but
my vet clinic did a ton of research on fjords and did find one very
interesting fact. A vet from Germany said he had noted that fjords would
test positive for anemia before work
shots this week and i had him do a CBC and
blood workup. his temp was normal, he's eating, pooping, etc. just sluggish.
a little heavy, but not obese.
he came back with normal white cells (no infection), and kidney and liver
stuff was fine. the only thing that showed up was anemia. i was so
This message is from: "Joe Glick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Since I have been feeding garlic to my horses the past two summers, the
article in the Horse Journal got me wondering. So I did a massive web search
to see what I else I can learn. All I really learned off of the web is that a
lot of people are
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Reena,
I often find horses that have systemic infections, such as influenza,
will be a little anemic for awhile. It generally returns to normal after
the infection has cleared up. I would do a follow up count in about a
week just to be sure it is coming b
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
My boy really came back fast from a low blood cell count when I put him back
on Lixitinic which he loves. Makes it also easier to get other meds in him
when covered in Lix. Jean Gayle
Author
"The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reena,
I "Googled" Uniprim: UNIPRIM (TRIMETHOPRIM/SULFADIAZINE) It is the same as
what I was giving Bjarne..So that could be why his red cell count is down.
So It will come up. I did give Bjarne the blood builder RedCell, but there
may be som
This message is from: "ReenaG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
hi Jean
well yes, he was on antibiotics (but is done with it now)...uniprim?
(sp?!) and has finished that up now. white blood cell count was normal but
he said something about something being elevated in the fraction of the
white blood cell
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reena,
Was/is he on any antibiotics, such as Trimethoprim Sulfa, (sulfamethoxazole
trimethoprim)? Why I ask is that when my old Bjarne had his shoulder
infection and surgery the vet put him on this and we kept checking his
blood count..His bl
This message is from: "ReenaG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jean
Gus is 25...way lower then it should be. Although he is acting fine.
When he got here, he was sick, had picked up influenza on the trip, even
though he had been vacinnated before the trip..vet thought that might
also be why..as
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reena, what's his "number"? Fjords and drafts do read lower on their
hematocrit than other breeds, 32 is not uncommon. Thoroughbreds, OTOH are
often about 45. The red blood cells are stored in the spleen and when
there is a need, like a burs
This message is from: "ReenaG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello!Gustav has come up as 'anemic' on his blood work. Well
according to the 'established guidelines' he is. I was reading the
archives and saw that a few others on the list had their horses show up that
way. He isn't showing or acting
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I just feed my horses whole oats, a little salt, some soy meal and their
vitamins. Then I can tailor it to their needs. The mare only gets a tiny amount
of oats (half a large tuna can) to get her to eat the vitamins. Then, you are
not at the mercy of the
This message is from: "Bonnie Liermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello list:
I wanted to respond to the post about the problem of feeding enough vitamins
and minerals and not give your horse too much grain. I believe feeding the
proper vitamins and minerals is so important, but I don't want to feed a
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ivermectin and Praziquantel.
It is the Praziquantel that kills the tapes. I understand that double dose
of strongid (Pyrantel Pamoate) paste will do it also, altho it is an
"Off-Label" use. There is also some thought that the daily wormers s
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
What is the active ingredient in Equimax?
This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
After reading the comment by Janet ,
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re: anemia, in sheep anemia is usually associated with a heavy parasite
load, and this can occur even in
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kathy I really appreciate your expertise in this area. I wonder also if the
idea that there is another problem behind the anemia might also have been
caused by the anemia or compensating for the anemia?Jean Gayle
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Subject: Re: Anemia in Fjordhorses?
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>In talking to Margaret (the breeder) I found out that o
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Peg, the Vets and Wash State Vet school say we are very low on selenium here
in Wash. Also I use Lixitinic which he loves and it can mask other meds at
times. Jean Gayle
Author
"The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 46-49
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This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Alright, I have to admit I have forgotten what EPSM stands for. Jean Gayle
Author
"The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 46-49
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This message is from: Ardeth Obenauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Purina has a fairly new product out that is meant for horses that are mostly
on forage and little grain. It is called Nature's Essentials. It has a
good balance of vitamins and minerals(including selenium), and I use it to
supplement a die
tested - he came back anemic - his RBC
6.84, (low)
Hematocrit 28.6 (low) and hemoglobin 9.8 (low). I contacted Dr. Valentine -
she's been
helping us all along with his EPSM - she thought it might have been the
heat, hard work,
etc... I did end up putting him on a supplement "Equine; Erytho
This message is from: "Janet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>The talk about anemia and salt blocks brought up a question I have. My two
>fjords have an iodized salt block and a mineral block in their inner most
>pasture.
It is recommended with all livestock, to not offer whit
od test done and sure
enough, anemia. I have changed his diet to a complete pelleted feed, 14%
protein and Red Cell. He has a lot more energy and I was very glad to get the
"solution." He also get some limited hay for enjoyment, and has actually lost
weight even while being feed much,
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Washington has sufficient selenium on the West side, but not East of the
> mountains. I understand Idaho to be also deficient. > .. We also add a
very small amount of Selenium once a week to supplement
> the Selenium in the dry salt m
Show, where she presented and showed Erlend and Sadie. Our vet really respects
her background in nutrition. Kelly does not recommend Red Cell for anemia. We
have had slightly anemic Fjords twice, and we concentrated on their nutrition
and their de-worming. Worked well.
Poor Soren wants his mommy - he
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
That brings to mind that feeding horses large quantities of garlic can
cause anemia. Dr. Beth Valentine mentioned this on the Virtual vet site
when I did a search:
http://www.ruralheritage.com/messageboard/virtualvet/1361-1.htm
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This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Now another of our driving school horses has come up with anemia. -- BDF
Quasar, a 5 yr. old gelding, ...>
> I read up on anemia in horses and it's considered fairly rare, and is not
due to a lack of i
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I don't use the salt blocks with selenium because two of my Fjords just
love the salt and I feel they would get too much selenium. I use just a TM
salt block and also like to put a white plain salt block out there also. I
give a vitamin miner
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Carol I just mentioned in my last post that my warmblood Charley was found
to be very anemic last month. This is his second bout. I also mentioned
that he does not eat salt, However his feed has selenium in it and he gets
three large scoops
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Carol,
Fjords and drafts usually show lower PCV's than a lot of other breeds. but
25 IS low..my Bjarne, when he had the shoulder infection and surgery (staph
infection) had a long course of antibiotics..which dropped his red cell
count. So so
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yes, that is the case, especially with the draft breeds. a Thoroughbred,
OTOH will often be in the 40's. Maybe you should take blood after lunging
them briefly?
Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, cold and dreary, winter coming..34 degrees!
>In
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A while back I went through some "anemia" with Heidi, where her count was
in the low 20's (mid to upper 30's are the norm here because of the
elevation), and when I had Torden tested he also tested low, upper 20's to ver
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We don't have any anemia, but we feed a supplement that is made especially
for our area (the right amount of selenium added). We were told if provided in
a
salt lick, they may not get enough of it. One of our horses LOVES the salt
lick and the other do
nother of our driving school horses has come up with anemia. -- BDF
Quasar, a 5 yr. old gelding, started off the season in fine form, but around
mid August, he was just a little bit dull. Wasn't going with his usual
enthusiasm and huge stride. -- Frankly, I just thought it was boredom
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Amy, my big horse had anemia following a severe treatment for sarcoids. The
treatment seemed to lower his immune system. I was told by my Vet to put
him on Lixotinic, comes in a gallon container and horses like the taste.
Li
s vitamins go. I
> have had Morgan's that were anemic before, but if I put them on something
> like red cell, they became extremely hyper, even if the were usually calm/
> fjord like :). If you have any suggestions I would truly appreciate it.
>
> Thanks
> Amy Ebbert
Anemia is
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
First, I would ask Dr.Steve White here on the list, but your fjord may not
actually be anemic. What was the "hematocrit" reading (%cell volume)? The
normal range is about 32 to 52, with draft breeds and coldblooded breeds
having much lower nu
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I had my fjord's blood tested recently and it came back that she is anemic. I
was curios what you all might suggest, or recommend as far as vitamins go. I
have had Morgan's that were anemic before, but if I put them on something
like red cell, they became
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