RE: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-19 Thread Hairy Dog Digital
> Wouldn't anybody who could get that far be too busy writing their own code? That's what many of us would do, but there are the others that will expend more energy to not do work (or work that *could not do*), rather than just doing it. ___ Flashcoder

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-19 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On 7/19/07, Jon Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:29 AM, Mark Winterhalder wrote: > But I wonder, did anybody compare haXe vs AS3 bytecode yet? A > decompiler is likely to assume AS3 has been used, and maybe haXe > creates sufficiently different bytecode to confuse it. Th

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-19 Thread Jim Kremens
"So, maybe half your code in the end will be pretty funked up. That's still probably more than enough to make use of the decompiled code." Wouldn't anybody who could get that far be too busy writing their own code? Jim ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-19 Thread Jon Bradley
On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:29 AM, Mark Winterhalder wrote: But I wonder, did anybody compare haXe vs AS3 bytecode yet? A decompiler is likely to assume AS3 has been used, and maybe haXe creates sufficiently different bytecode to confuse it. That doesn't really matter. If it's FP9, it's AS3. The by

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-19 Thread Eric Priou
But I wonder, did anybody compare haXe vs AS3 bytecode yet? A decompiler is likely to assume AS3 has been used, and maybe haXe creates sufficiently different bytecode to confuse it. I don't know about haxe as3 pcode. BTW, I know that haxe as2 version use some differents structures in the compil

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-19 Thread Cedric Muller
Another idea... Would it be possible to add to the SWF some malicious bytecode ? The process: user tries to decompile a SWF. When trying to read the bytecode, decompiler stumbles upon the malicious bytecode which makes, let's say, windows, go out of reach... ? (overflow, bluescreen ...?) of

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-19 Thread Mark Winterhalder
Though, one could just use Haxe instead... Yeah, I prefer it anyway. But I wonder, did anybody compare haXe vs AS3 bytecode yet? A decompiler is likely to assume AS3 has been used, and maybe haXe creates sufficiently different bytecode to confuse it. Mark On 7/19/07, Jon Bradley <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-19 Thread Jon Bradley
A better link for those interested in obfuscation of AS3 code. http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266992 peace, jon On Jul 18, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Latcho wrote: whats this? Jon Bradley wrote: Or, if you're a masochist: http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256400 _

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-19 Thread Jon Bradley
It's basically a macro process for compiling AS classes. One of the side effects is that it can be to obfuscate SWF files by using your own re-write rules. Hit up the second page of the thread to see a bit more information. Macros are pretty cool stuff. Though the author of the toolset isn'

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Latcho
whats this? Jon Bradley wrote: Or, if you're a masochist: http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256400 - Jon On Jul 18, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Mark Winterhalder wrote: On 7/18/07, Douglas Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since we're talking about obfuscation/encryption does anyone know

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Jon Bradley
Or, if you're a masochist: http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256400 - Jon On Jul 18, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Mark Winterhalder wrote: On 7/18/07, Douglas Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since we're talking about obfuscation/encryption does anyone know of a tool that works for AS3 y

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On 7/18/07, Douglas Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since we're talking about obfuscation/encryption does anyone know of a tool that works for AS3 yet? All the standard tools seem to stop with Flash 8/AS2. I don't think there are any decompilers for AS3 yet, but I could be wrong, and it's j

[Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Douglas Pearson
oders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf ! I agree with JC that it wasn't really necessary to be quite so spiteful about defeating his code. I think the problem may have come from a "here's my solution, try and break it" attitude instead of simply givi

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Jim Berkey
even if it isn't a proper swf file when it hits the player . . . . . . I'll be back . . . :~) jimbo - Original Message - From: "Ian Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf ! H

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Eric Priou
but instead of using Blowfish or something heavyweight to decrypt, just split the source .swf into chunks on the server, load each chunk seperately, reassemble and loadBytes on the client side. Great concept, Ian : "Diviser pour mieux régner" --- Eric Priou aka erixtekila Dev notes : http://www.

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Ian Thomas
Hm. Just a side thought on that - again, making it difficult rather than impossible. Use the same FP9 idea - loading via a binary socket - but instead of using Blowfish or something heavyweight to decrypt, just split the source .swf into chunks on the server, load each chunk seperately, reassemble

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Jon Bradley
On Jul 18, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Jim Berkey wrote: I found early on that so many people can tear down a wall and condemn it easily when they see the skeleton, without ever trying to climb the wall, and that is not a good judge of the effectiveness of the wall. But if you do not see the skeleto

Re: Re[2]: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Jim Berkey
You are my hero . . . I think I am finished. jimbo - Original Message - From: "Rákos Attila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jim Berkey" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re[2]: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf ! It was even easier than the ye

RE: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Frederic Caron
x27;origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Jim Berkey Envoyé : July 18, 2007 9:07 AM À : flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Objet : Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf ! Ok, yesterday was 7 minutes of work to capture . . . another try today. Is the wa

Re[2]: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread R�kos Attila
Attila =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From:Jim Berkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Date:Wednesday, July 18, 2007, 3:07:01 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf ! --===-- Ok, yesterday was 7 minutes of

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Jim Berkey
Ok, yesterday was 7 minutes of work to capture . . . another try today. Is the wall higher yet? http://jimbo.us/Games/jumpPeg/ jimbo ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.f

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On 7/18/07, Jim Berkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wonderful folks, don't worry about my feelings because my methods were so quickly destroyed. I'm a big boy, and have enjoyed the search for the holy swf-grail for some time now. Thanks to Rákos, I believe I am one brick away from that wall that i

[Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread dave matthews
ichman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf ! Hi, I might be wrong but like Bart said, I think SWFEncrypt does all this already. At least I haven't had any problems with this andits fast too AND usable from a build file. But I'm sure some of you will

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Jim Berkey
Sunil Jolly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:08 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf ! I agree with JC that it wasn't really necessary to be quite so spiteful about defeating his code. I think the problem may have come from a "here's m

RE: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-18 Thread Sunil Jolly
MAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Wichman Sent: 18 July 2007 05:56 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf ! Hi, I might be wrong but like Bart said, I think SWFEncrypt does all this already. At least I haven't had any problems w

Re: [Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-17 Thread Hans Wichman
Hi, I might be wrong but like Bart said, I think SWFEncrypt does all this already. At least I haven't had any problems with this andits fast too AND usable from a build file. But I'm sure some of you will be able to crack it. What I do have problems with is the attitude displayed towards Jimbo by

[Flashcoders] RE: obfuscation swf !

2007-07-17 Thread Costello, Rob R
> 2006/5/7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is there any good way or method for obfuscation a Flash file so that > swf works fine after obfuscation and also prevent any one to > understand the code easily . Few common softwares for obfuscation are > just not that good as swf stops working