Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread John Check
FWIW I checked the logs for the c172-set.xml: revision 1.10 date: 2002/01/19 17:18:19; author: david; state: Exp; lines: +6 -2 Added initial levels for each fuel tank (not full capacity). revision 1.9 date: 2002/01/19 03:10:07;

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Berndt wrote: Who emptied the fuel tanks? I took it out for a trip on thursday. I must have forgotten to fill it up again. Sorry guys. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jon Berndt wrote: Who emptied the fuel tanks? I took it out for a trip on thursday. I must have forgotten to fill it up again. Sorry guys. hehe...Curt should have caught that preflight. Lucky for him they were bone dry :-) Maybe we should

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Jim Wilson
Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: David Megginson writes: Please remember that FlightGear is not just a visualizer for batch-mode aero runs -- people use it to fly interactively. NIT: Please remember what it says on our Home Page The FlightGear project is working to create a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jon Berndt wrote: Who emptied the fuel tanks? I took it out for a trip on thursday. I must have forgotten to fill it up again. Sorry guys. hehe...Curt should have caught that preflight. Lucky for him they

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Alex Perry
Yes we have, at least for the 172. Note, however, that regular fuel gauges are not all that reliable, FAA certification standards require that fuel gauges read (1) empty when there is only unusable fuel (or less) in that tank (2) a different indication when the tank is full I suspect the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 01:17 am, Jon Berndt wrote: Whats the deal with the x24b fuel wise? That's missing a consumables section as are the shuttle and x15 ?? The JSBSim config files have fuel loaded for the X15, the X24B, the C310, the C172, etc. But NOT the shuttle (we just use it as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
John Check writes: Dunno. I checked a few revisions back and didn't see anything. I'm committing wet tanks shortly. Remember that I just fixed FlightGear to stop picking up defaults from c172.xml. Hmm. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: John Check writes: Also, what happened to the runway lighting? I'm a little out of touch since I've spent the last week (at least) installing Gentoo It should still be there, isn't it? I have been working on building more infrastructure for doing

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt writes: The JSBSim config files have fuel loaded for the X15, the X24B, the C310, the C172, etc. But NOT the shuttle (we just use it as a glider). I don't know what this consumables thing it, but JSBSim loads its aircraft with fuel in the JSBSim config files. If it has no fuel,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman writes: Jon Berndt wrote: Who emptied the fuel tanks? I took it out for a trip on thursday. I must have forgotten to fill it up again. Sorry guys. Damn -- do you know how much condensation there must be in the tanks? I'll be draining water for half an hour. All the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Jon Berndt
Jon Berndt writes: The JSBSim config files have fuel loaded for the X15, the X24B, the C310, the C172, etc. But NOT the shuttle (we just use it as a glider). I don't know what this consumables thing it, but JSBSim loads its aircraft with fuel in the JSBSim config files. If it has no fuel,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt writes: Right. We allow the users to change the fuel level, so the default in the JSBSim config file doesn't matter. H. I don't like this at all. Why was this done? 1. We have several different FDMs and need a common mechanism for setting and displaying fuel levels

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Please remember that FlightGear is not just a visualizer for batch-mode aero runs -- people use it to fly interactively. NIT: Please remember what it says on our Home Page The FlightGear project is working to create a sophisticated flight simulator framework for the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Jon Berndt
Jon Berndt writes: 1. We have several different FDMs and need a common mechanism for setting and displaying fuel levels for all of them. 3. When we restore a saved flight, we want to be able to start with the same amount of fuel we had when we saved the flight. Please remember that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: Please remember that FlightGear is not just a visualizer for batch-mode aero runs -- people use it to fly interactively. NIT: Please remember what it says on our Home Page The FlightGear project is working to create a sophisticated flight simulator

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 07:02 am, David Megginson wrote: John Check writes: Dunno. I checked a few revisions back and didn't see anything. I'm committing wet tanks shortly. Remember that I just fixed FlightGear to stop picking up defaults from c172.xml. Hmm. All the best, David

[Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer start the c310u3a-3d engines. They will fire and turn over, but as soon as I disengage the starter, they spin back down and refuse to run. Also, they no longer come up running by default. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer start the c310u3a-3d engines. They will fire and turn over, but as soon as I disengage the starter, they spin back down and refuse to run. Also, they no longer come up running by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer start the c310u3a-3d engines. They will fire and turn over, but as soon as I disengage the starter, they spin back down and refuse to run. Also, they no longer come up running by

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Jon Berndt
Who emptied the fuel tanks? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Check Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer start the c310u3a-3d engines. They will fire and turn over, but as soon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 12:08 am, John Check wrote: On Friday 11 October 2002 12:05 am, Jon Berndt wrote: Who emptied the fuel tanks? Dunno. I checked a few revisions back and didn't see anything. I'm committing wet tanks shortly. I forgot to put it in the log message, but I also moved

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer start the c310u3a-3d engines. They will fire and turn over, but as soon as I disengage the starter, they spin back down and refuse to run

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 12:15 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Is this a side effect of no longer getting the C172 defaults? That sounds like a reasonable deduction. I'm checking the rest of the planes to see if we need to gas up. I noticed the yasim planes have thier own definition for fuel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Check writes: Also, what happened to the runway lighting? I'm a little out of touch since I've spent the last week (at least) installing Gentoo It should still be there, isn't it? I have been working on building more infrastructure for doing runway/approach lighting and working on using

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Jon Berndt
On Friday 11 October 2002 12:15 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Is this a side effect of no longer getting the C172 defaults? That sounds like a reasonable deduction. I'm checking the rest of the planes to see if we need to gas up. I noticed the yasim planes have thier own definition for fuel inside

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Jon Berndt
Whats the deal with the x24b fuel wise? That's missing a consumables section as are the shuttle and x15 ?? The JSBSim config files have fuel loaded for the X15, the X24B, the C310, the C172, etc. But NOT the shuttle (we just use it as a glider). I don't know what this consumables thing it,