Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-28 Thread Erik Hofman
Maik Justus wrote: That would be the best. But how to know, that 1.2 would work? It looks If version 1.2 still contains this bug it will be noticed rather quickly and changing the test would be easy. like, if the OpenAL Doppler effect bugs are a never ending story. And they do not work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-28 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Erik, Erik Hofman schrieb am 28.06.2007 08:50: Maik Justus wrote: That would be the best. But how to know, that 1.2 would work? It looks If version 1.2 still contains this bug it will be noticed rather quickly and changing the test would be easy. ok, I will test for the 1.2 and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-28 Thread Maik Justus
Hi all, here is a new patch for the Doppler effect, which should work on every OS. Please report, if you get any error messages or hear any unexpected sound. (Due to some debug-error-messages not intended to go into cvs) Maik Maik Justus schrieb am 28.06.2007 20:22: Hi Erik, Erik Hofman

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-28 Thread Maik Justus
Hi, I forgot: only for osg/head. Maik Maik Justus schrieb am 28.06.2007 22:55: Hi all, here is a new patch for the Doppler effect, which should work on every OS. Please report, if you get any error messages or hear any unexpected sound. (Due to some debug-error-messages not intended to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Tuesday 26 June 2007: There's no release imminent for fg/osg, and we have time to clear matters and don't need to rush in a workaround for a (potentially) long fixed bug. I guess things are clear now. Read through this thread:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: So it's now also clear that we have to fix FlightGear's broken sound ourselves for 0.9.11 (fg/plib branch). If it can be done in a way that doesn't break the current framework and makes clear which parts are the workaround (by using #ifdefs and comments, as is the case

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-27 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Erik, Erik Hofman schrieb am 27.06.2007 09:04: Melchior FRANZ wrote: So it's now also clear that we have to fix FlightGear's broken sound ourselves for 0.9.11 (fg/plib branch). If it can be done in a way that doesn't break the current framework and makes clear which parts are the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Tuesday 26 June 2007: Since it seems to be a Windows problem it's not a matter of depending on a svn build or not. Im must say, though, that my reluctance to commit that was based on the assumption that Doppler is really only functional in fg/osg, but not fg/plib. There's no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Maik Justus wrote: If you have any argument against the patch, please let us know. As the original author of the FlightGear sound class and the one who put the directional code in FlightGear I'm opposed to this patch. Let's just wait what the OpenAL developers have to say before we continue

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-25 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Erik, Erik Hofman schrieb am 25.06.2007 08:30: Maik Justus wrote: If you have any argument against the patch, please let us know. As the original author of the FlightGear sound class and the one who put the directional code in FlightGear I'm opposed to this patch. Let's just wait

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Maik Justus wrote: Yes, no problem to wait for an answer on the OpenAL-devel list. I read through the archive and found a long thread in september 2005, where they fixed some Doppler bugs. Probably it was our bug. Don't know, when this will go into a release. Do we really want to depend on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build (osg branch),

2007-06-24 Thread Martin Spott
Maik, Maik Justus wrote: The enclosed patch switches of the Doppler calculation of OpenAL and adds a own Doppler calculation. I doubt that this is the intention of those people who introdced OpenAL to FlightGear. Once you put this, well, 'hack' into FlightGear, will there still be someone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build (osg branch),

2007-06-24 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Martin, Martin Spott schrieb am 24.06.2007 11:04: Maik, Maik Justus wrote: The enclosed patch switches of the Doppler calculation of OpenAL and adds a own Doppler calculation. I doubt that this is the intention of those people who introdced OpenAL to FlightGear. Maybe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build (osg branch), experimental patch included

2007-06-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Maik Justus -- Sunday 24 June 2007: It seems that (at least) on windows there is a bug within OpenAL calculating the Doppler effect. The enclosed patch switches of the Doppler calculation of OpenAL and adds a own Doppler calculation. The patch is not designed for cvs (now). As I said on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build (osg branch), experimental patch included

2007-06-24 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Melchior, Melchior FRANZ schrieb am 24.06.2007 17:42: * Maik Justus -- Sunday 24 June 2007: It seems that (at least) on windows there is a bug within OpenAL calculating the Doppler effect. The enclosed patch switches of the Doppler calculation of OpenAL and adds a own

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-24 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Maik, Maik Justus wrote: [...] But I won't wait for the bug fixed in OpenAL, if the way to get realistic Doppler effect is as simple as it is. Did you compare the price that FlightGear pays for knowingly introducing and carrying along such a 'hack' on one side with the net benefit for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build

2007-06-24 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Martin, Martin Spott schrieb am 24.06.2007 23:27: Hi Maik, Maik Justus wrote: [...] But I won't wait for the bug fixed in OpenAL, if the way to get realistic Doppler effect is as simple as it is. Did you compare the price that FlightGear pays for knowingly introducing and

[Flightgear-devel] no doppler sound with actual build (osg branch), experimental patch included

2007-06-23 Thread Maik Justus
Hi, at the osg branch, the directional sound and doppler effects should work since two days. It seems that (at least) on windows there is a bug within OpenAL calculating the Doppler effect. Either there is no Doppler Effect (like I have) or it is totally wrong (as aerotro has with the same