Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

That's all correct although the third point does not really have anything to do with the bitmap renderer. On 10.03.2005 14:34:57 Renaud Richardet wrote: > Let me sum up this tread to see if I get the picture: > > * Sun's codec [1] will not be integrated. > * instead, Batik's transcoders will be u

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Let me sum up this tread to see if I get the picture: * Sun's codec [1] will not be integrated. * instead, Batik's transcoders will be used [2]. * where and how these transcoders will be made available to fop will be discussed next week [3] * I'll start by implementing basic functionalities for TI

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Le 9 mars 05, à 01:12, Glen Mazza a écrit : ...[Thanks also to Bertrand for sending Renaud our way. This is the second quality developer--Peter Herweg being the other--that we have gotten from him since I've been on this project.].. You're welcome - and you don't even know how many people I sent yo

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

--- Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ah, there's the catch. Yes, CCITT4 is particularly > interesting which is > not supported by the code in Batik. But still, I > think we don't have to I don't think we have to > support everything under JDK 1.3. Or anything, for that matter. 1.

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Ah, there's the catch. Yes, CCITT4 is particularly interesting which is not supported by the code in Batik. But still, I think we don't have to support everything under JDK 1.3. I wonder how many people under JDK 1.3 would need that particular compression type. And if they really do they then have

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Yes, please, because it's a lot easier to handle inside an IDE. You simply define an additional source folder if you're on JDK 1.4, and you don't get compile error on JDK 1.3. On 09.03.2005 16:34:39 Glen Mazza wrote: > --- Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Otherwise, I'd rath

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Jeremias Maerki wrote: I would like to suggest that you implement TIFF and PNG output using Batik's codecs. Yep, that's the best solution. But please check that Batik's TIFF codec supports all TIFF compressions Sun's codec does. 2 years ago it was sort of limited, particularly wrt fax compression

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Jeremias Maerki wrote: That's no problem, I think, because Batik has a TIFF encoder [3] already in their codebase and we can move this code to the common area and use that. Shouldn't be difficult to adjust. Last time I checked Batik's TIFF encoder was kinda limited WRT some TIFF compressions, and

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

--- Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Otherwise, I'd rather use ImageIO even if it's > only available in JDKs > > > >=1.4. > > I thought FOP should be 1.3 compilant [3]? So how > do we go around that? > > That's right. But nothing stops us from providing > additional code that's

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

On 09.03.2005 12:51:11 Renaud Richardet wrote: > I downloaded sun's codecs [2] that Oleg used in his TIFFRenderer. > Jeremias, you mean that we can legally just put those in the FOP-code? This would have to be checked out. I'd rather not, especially when we have PNG and TIFF cod

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

I downloaded sun's codecs [2] that Oleg used in his TIFFRenderer. Jeremias, you mean that we can legally just put those in the FOP-code? Following codecs are included in [2]: - TIFF - JPEG - PNG - BMP So it should be possible to create a renderer for each of this file formats. But do we need

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Renaud Richardet wrote: Peter, Then my comment gave you a wrong impression: the Java2DRenderer is the (abstract) base for all renderers that use the Java2D API for rendering. The reference renderer is still the PDFRenderer, which inherits from AbstractRenderer directly. Renaud Renaud, Understood.

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Renaud Richardet wrote: Peter, let me answer you last mail [1] here: You are right that the wiki is still vague about the detailled implementation of the different renderers. Actually, I haven't started to think about it until today. I will put my ideas tomorrow on the wiki. I would be happy if you

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

No, definitely not. From what I learned from you, that's what you intend to do. FOP pursues a different strategy. I believe that you can't get the same quality PDF with all cool features with a PDF renderer that operates with a Java2DRenderer as its base. On 09.03.2005 12:34:20 Peter B. West wrote

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Peter, Then my comment gave you a wrong impression: the Java2DRenderer is the (abstract) base for all renderers that use the Java2D API for rendering. The reference renderer is still the PDFRenderer, which inherits from AbstractRenderer directly. Renaud

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Jeremias Maerki wrote: Relationship to which PDF renderer? The one that directly creates PDF (PDFRenderer) or the one that creates PDF through JPS (normal PrintRenderer as defined in the Wiki painting to a Graphics2D instance provided by JPS) using a StreamPrintService? That's the two choices. Obv

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Glen Mazza wrote: Yeah, Peter makes me want to do that sometimes myself... ;) Glen Glen, It's not difficult. I can give you some tips off-line if you like. Peter -- Peter B. West Folio

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-batik/sources/org/apache/batik/ext/awt/image/codec/tiff/ On 09.03.2005 11:30:51 Oleg Tkachenko wrote: > Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > > Thanks to Glen for raising the issue. The ideal approach is if Oleg > > would pack up his TIFFRenderer and do

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Jeremias Maerki wrote: Thanks to Glen for raising the issue. The ideal approach is if Oleg would pack up his TIFFRenderer and donate it to the ASF accompanied with a software grant [1], but Oleg is a FOP committer and has a CLA on file. So if Oleg attaches a ZIP with the sources for the

Re: Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Thanks to Glen for raising the issue. The ideal approach is if Oleg would pack up his TIFFRenderer and donate it to the ASF accompanied with a software grant [1], but Oleg is a FOP committer and has a CLA on file. So if Oleg attaches a ZIP with the sources for the TIFFRenderer (ALv2 already

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Relationship to which PDF renderer? The one that directly creates PDF (PDFRenderer) or the one that creates PDF through JPS (normal PrintRenderer as defined in the Wiki painting to a Graphics2D instance provided by JPS) using a StreamPrintService? That's the two choices. Obviously, you will be tak

Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Glen, Thanks for your mail. It's good you raised the legal issue. Peter, let me answer you last mail [1] here: You are right that the wiki is still vague about the detailled implementation of the different renderers. Actually, I haven't started to think about it until today. I will put my ideas

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

d > > provide the concrete > > > output paths [1]. > > > > > > I think it would be a good idea to integrate > your > > TIFFRenderer, as you > > > propose in [2]. Would you like to integrate it > > yourself? Otherwise I > > > woul

Good job! / Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

> a Java2DRenderer which provides the (abstract) > technical foundation. > Other renderers can subclass Java2DRenderer and > provide the concrete > output paths [1]. > > I think it would be a good idea to integrate your > TIFFRenderer, as you > propose in [2]. Would you lik

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

g, I'm currently working on the AWTRenderer. The basic idea is to create a Java2DRenderer which provides the (abstract) technical foundation. Other renderers can subclass Java2DRenderer and provide the concrete output paths [1]. I think it would be a good idea to integrate your TIFFRenderer, as you

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

hich provides the (abstract) > technical foundation. > > Other renderers can subclass Java2DRenderer and > provide the concrete > > output paths [1]. > > > > I think it would be a good idea to integrate your > TIFFRenderer, as you > > propose in [2]. Would

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

ea to integrate your TIFFRenderer, as you propose in [2]. Would you like to integrate it yourself? Otherwise I would like to do it. Regards, Renaud [1] http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/FopAndJava2D [2] http://www.tkachenko.com/fop/fop.html Renaud, This approach is obviously of interest to me, and I

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

grate your TIFFRenderer, as you propose in [2]. Would you like to integrate it yourself? Otherwise I would like to do it. Unfortunately I'm sort of busy currently. Go ahead, that will be great renderer. -- Oleg Tkachenko http://blog.tkachenko.com Multiconn Technologies, Israel

Re: Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

On Mar 8, 2005, at 7:23 AM, Renaud Richardet wrote: I think it would be a good idea to integrate your TIFFRenderer, as you propose in [2]. Would you like to integrate it yourself? Otherwise I would like to do it. I think that would be great! Just be careful when you do, that the output isn&#

Integration of TIFFRenderer in FOP

Oleg, I'm currently working on the AWTRenderer. The basic idea is to create a Java2DRenderer which provides the (abstract) technical foundation. Other renderers can subclass Java2DRenderer and provide the concrete output paths [1]. I think it would be a good idea to integrate your TIFFRen

RE: TIFFRenderer

At 04:31 PM 5/21/02, you wrote: >Are the AWTRenderer spacing fixes in a release version of FOP? If so, which >version? No; but my understanding is that it is now committed to cvs - at least in the maint branch, in what will be the upcoming 0.20.4 maint release. The change is confined one method

Re: TIFFRenderer

> Are the AWTRenderer spacing fixes in a release version of FOP? If so, which > version? In the next: 0.20.4. It's already fixed in CVS. Christian has announced that we can expect a candidate release around June 1st. Cheers, Jeremias Märki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OUTLINE AG Postfach 3954 - R

RE: TIFFRenderer

: Ralph LaChance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TIFFRenderer At 10:11 AM 5/21/02, you wrote: >Ralph LaChance is working on it. Check the current CVS. Ralph's diff >should have improved some of this. But it seems like AWT st

Re: TIFFRenderer

At 10:11 AM 5/21/02, you wrote: >Ralph LaChance is working on it. Check the current CVS. Ralph's diff >should have improved some of this. But it seems like AWT still has its >pitfalls. > >Implementing a full bitmap renderer without the use of AWT would be a >major pile of work, I think. But you ca

Re: TIFFRenderer

Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Implementing a full bitmap renderer without the use of AWT would be a > major pile of work, I think. But you can always try to use GhostScript > to convert a PDF/PS to TIFF which should have about the same qualities > as the PDF. Which method are you using right now? You

Re: TIFFRenderer

ersion. The spacing of letters and words is a > major issue with the AWTRenderer (as was mentioned in a previous thread). Yes, that's known AWTRenderer's problem, but proposed TIFFRenderer being derived from AWTRenderer at least doesn't add any new problems, so we still have o

Re: TIFFRenderer

Ralph LaChance is working on it. Check the current CVS. Ralph's diff should have improved some of this. But it seems like AWT still has its pitfalls. Implementing a full bitmap renderer without the use of AWT would be a major pile of work, I think. But you can always try to use GhostScript to con

RE: TIFFRenderer

City Solutions Inc. corporate offices at (435) 654-0621 -Original Message- From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TIFFRenderer I think you're the second one who announced such a TIFF renderer in a short p

Re: TIFFRenderer

o encode them by tiff encoder. > Actually I developed such TIFFRenderer a couple weeks ago in order to get > fax-suitable output from a fop-running system I'm working on now (see > http://www.tkachenko.com/fop/tiffrenderer.html). That stuff was downloaded > couple of dozens times by t

TIFFRenderer

de them by tiff encoder. Actually I developed such TIFFRenderer a couple weeks ago in order to get fax-suitable output from a fop-running system I'm working on now (see http://www.tkachenko.com/fop/tiffrenderer.html). That stuff was downloaded couple of dozens times by the people, so I belie