Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: I compiled and booted on alpha. It sees my ad0 now. Plus it also sees the 3 'da' disks that were found. The only real problem is that it won't see the partitions made for 'dangerously dedicated' 'da' disks. What's the plan for addressing

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: I compiled and booted on alpha. It sees my ad0 now. Plus it also sees the 3 'da' disks that were found. The only real problem is that

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Matthew Jacob
What names do you usually access your disks by ? Just da0a etc ? da0{a,b,c,d} and so on.. You should be able to find those as well with the clone stuff... Nope. Weren't there. I booted up once. I had 3 disks- none with a FreeBSD label. The contents of /dev for da disks was

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Brooks Davis writes: On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 09:33:21PM +0900, Motomichi Matsuzaki wrote: Doing 'make install' without /boot/device.hints is failed, saying "You must set up a /boot/device.hints file first." Is this right? You should read cvs-all. There was a commit by Peter which forces

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: What names do you usually access your disks by ? Just da0a etc ? da0{a,b,c,d} and so on.. You should be able to find those as well with the clone stuff... Nope. Weren't there. I booted up once. I had 3 disks- none with a FreeBSD

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Matthew Jacob
I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having an empty one keeps you from shooting yourself in the foot? cvs-all is not appropriate. I am

Installkernel

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
James Johnson writes: The method of building and installing a kernel to me seems a bit off.. Both the buildworld and installworld targets default to GENERIC, yet GENERIC is a file checked into the -CURRENT CVS repository.. Any changes to this file will get blown away if whenever you update

Re: devfs

2000-08-28 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:35:26 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Do you have devfs in /etc/fstab ? That is *not* needed, /sbin/init will mount devfs on /dev automatically. Out of curiosity, what's the motivation behind this decision? Why don't you allow defvs to be mounted on an arbitrary

Re: devfs

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sheldon Hearn writes: On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:35:26 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Do you have devfs in /etc/fstab ? That is *not* needed, /sbin/init will mount devfs on /dev automatically. Out of curiosity, what's the motivation behind this decision? Why

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Donn Miller
Mike Meyer wrote: I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having an empty one keeps you from shooting yourself in the foot? Actually,

Re: Monitor dies and doesn't come back.

2000-08-28 Thread Systems Administrator
I did just notice something.. why would I have sc0/sc1 and vga0/vga1? Or is that just because of the 'options SC_PIXEL_MODE' that I have? Jason DiCioccio - IBM Global Services - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ibm.com Systems Admin - Open Domain Server - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Donn Miller writes: Mike Meyer wrote: I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having an empty one keeps you from shooting yourself in the

Re: 3.4STABLE to 4.1STABLE can't make modules (fwd)

2000-08-28 Thread Glendon M. Gross
Although binary distribution would be easier, I suspect that many of us would prefer to build everything locally. That is one of the unique features of FreeBSD, even if it is time consuming. On Sat, Aug 27, 2000 , Gary Kline wrote: BTW, I have some ideas how this entire issue of

vn broken?

2000-08-28 Thread Martin Cracauer
-current from Aug, 22, cd9660 image file mounted via vn reports this: Aug 28 13:45:51 counter /kernel: unexpected vn driver lock: 0xccf008c0: type VREG, usecount 2, writecount 1, refcount 452, flags (VOBJBUF) Aug 28 13:45:51 counter /kernel: tag VT_UFS, ino 357635, on dev #da/6 (13, 6) lock

Re: vn broken?

2000-08-28 Thread Martin Cracauer
I should haven mentioned that this is a SMP machine (i440BX P-III 550 dual) and is running vmware. -current from Aug, 22, cd9660 image file mounted via vn reports this: Aug 28 13:45:51 counter /kernel: unexpected vn driver lock: 0xccf008c0: type VREG, usecount 2, writecount 1, refcount 452,

Re: IDE RAID (HPT-370/Abit KT7-RAID) install questions..

2000-08-28 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2827 23:05], Soren Schmidt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, this wouldn't have happend without Jeroen (asmodai) having good contacts at HighPoint, so I thank him for making this possible. No problem. It's all team work anyways, I couldn't write the driver. ;) Hopefully Highpoint will

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Mike Meyer wrote: Donn Miller writes: Mike Meyer wrote: I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having an empty one keeps you from

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Maxim Sobolev writes: Mike Meyer wrote: Donn Miller writes: Mike Meyer wrote: I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having

RE: Linux ABI no longer supports staroffice

2000-08-28 Thread Yevmenkin, Maksim N, CSCIO
Up until this weekend, I was able to use the staroffice52 port with little problem (I had installed it earlier without benefit of the port and it worked fine.) I did a 5.0-current kernel rebuild on Thursday with sources current on that day and things were fine. When I rebuilt my kernel

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Mike Meyer wrote: Will the system fail to boot if there isn't an empty device.hints file? No, it will boot, but some devices (like keyboard, console etc) would not work. That's clearly not true - I just removed an empty /boot/device.hints and rebooted, and all those things work fine.

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Maxim Sobolev writes: Mike Meyer wrote: Will the system fail to boot if there isn't an empty device.hints file? No, it will boot, but some devices (like keyboard, console etc) would not work. That's clearly not true - I just removed an empty /boot/device.hints and rebooted, and

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Re: SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-28 Thread John Baldwin
Brad Knowles wrote: At 7:36 PM + 2000/8/28, Alex Zepeda wrote: Perhaps in a rush to get started, I've compiled and been using a SMP kernel even before the second processor arrives. This has worked fine, however I've gotten some rather weird hangs and

devname(3) broken for DEFVS

2000-08-28 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi Poul-Henning, I've been having trouble with ps(1) printing invalid controlling terminal names for processes connected to psuedo-terminals. This only seems to be a problem for DEVFS-enabled systems. The output that makes it look like things are broken is this: $ ps -t p7 PID TT STAT

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Bruce Evans
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Have you tried accessing them directly, for instance: ls -l /dev/da0s2e or whatever their names are ? Sure. They're not there. A reboot still just has da0[c], da1[c], and da2[c] show

Re: devname(3) broken for DEFVS

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Hi Poul-Henning, I've been having trouble with ps(1) printing invalid controlling terminal names for processes connected to psuedo-terminals. This only seems to be a problem for DEVFS-enabled systems. Yes, devname(3) need to learn a few things. It's actually always been a problem if you

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Ev ans writes: Sure. They're not there. A reboot still just has da0[c], da1[c], and da2[c] show up. That's more than show up on i386's :-). After booting with -s, only the whole disk devices and the root device show up. Devices for slices and partitions

Re: alpha devfs feedback

2000-08-28 Thread Matthew Jacob
That's more than show up on i386's :-). After booting with -s, only the whole disk devices and the root device show up. Devices for slices and partitions slices only show up when they are opened or stat'ed. This bug is normally mostly hidden by opening most partitions to mount them. Hmm.

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Motomichi Matsuzaki
Ahh..., I tried to summarize my opinion. If you find any misunderstandings of me, please correct them. *** What's happen if there's no /boot/device.hints? case A kernel has no built-in hints ... some devices would not work, system would stall! You can tell whole hints to the kernel

Re: Linux ABI no longer supports staroffice

2000-08-28 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
"Yevmenkin, Maksim N, CSCIO" wrote: [snip] same here :( i got original Sun CD with StartOffice 5.1a and tried to install it. it failed. i used # make WITH_CDROM=yes USE_CDROM=yes install and everything was fine, but then i got exactly the same error. XFree86-3.3.6 and

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:19:15AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having an empty one keeps you from

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 08:24:50AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: Well, yeah, I'd expect that. I'm still trying to figure out what *good* failing to compile unless there's an empty /boot/device.hints The kernel does not fail to *BUILD*. ``make install'' is what fails. I agree that the requirement

Re: 5.0-current 20000826 snapshot problems

2000-08-28 Thread Archie Cobbs
John Baldwin writes: FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 ([EMAIL PROTECTED], Sat Aug 26 11:14:35 GMT 2000) /kernel text=0x2432ca zf_read: fill error elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed Your floppy is bad. Try a different one. Not necessarily. This also happens if you try to

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony Fleisher writes: : Just a suggestion, but isn't this the type of thing that : should be added to UPDATING? Quoting from the UPDATING file: ... 2825: /boot/device.hints is now required for installkernel to succeed. ... 2612:

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob writes: : I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the : relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how : /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having an : empty one keeps you from

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Matthew Jacob
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob writes: : I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the : relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how : /boot/device.hints is used in the build process, or how having an : empty one keeps you from

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Meyer writes: : Will the system fail to boot if there isn't an empty device.hints : file? If the kernel doesn't have a hints file compiled into it, then you will have problems. However, you may not have a video console. I've been able to boot my laptop with a

Re: 5.0-current 20000826 snapshot problems

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Pritchard
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 10:23:34AM -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: John Baldwin writes: FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 ([EMAIL PROTECTED], Sat Aug 26 11:14:35 GMT 2000) /kernel text=0x2432ca zf_read: fill error elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed Your floppy is bad.

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Jacob writes: : In my opinion, people making major changes that require something in : UPDATING, should coordinate with you *before* the commit. Only 5 or : 6 brain cells are needed for this- I sure wish some of my fellow : committers weren't such skinflints

Re: 5.0-current 20000826 snapshot problems

2000-08-28 Thread Mike Smith
John Baldwin writes: FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 ([EMAIL PROTECTED], Sat Aug 26 11:14:35 GMT 2000) /kernel text=0x2432ca zf_read: fill error elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed Your floppy is bad. Try a different one. Not necessarily. This also happens if

Re: 5.0-current 20000826 snapshot problems

2000-08-28 Thread Archie Cobbs
Mike Smith writes: /kernel text=0x2432ca zf_read: fill error elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed Your floppy is bad. Try a different one. Not necessarily. This also happens if you try to boot boot.flp instead of kern.flp. Only if you've been silly enough to only put

Re: Proposal to clarify mbuf handling rules

2000-08-28 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, David Malone wrote: [...] (This is why the flag I was talking about in the other mail would be useful for spotting other cases where the storage may be writable, even if it's not a cluster). Thoughts: 1) The mbuf should be marked read-only explicitly with

Re: Proposal to clarify mbuf handling rules

2000-08-28 Thread Archie Cobbs
[ note: trimming -current from the CC: list ] Bosko Milekic writes: 1)The mbuf should be marked read-only explicitly with a single additional M_FLAG. #define M_RDONLY0x0x2000 2)The flag should be ORed in in MEXT_ADD_REF() only if the ref_cnt is equal to or

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Meyer writes: : Maxim Sobolev writes: : Mike Meyer wrote: : : Donn Miller writes: :Mike Meyer wrote: : I do read cvs-all, and I missed it. Not did I find device.hints in the : relevant Makefiles. Can you provide a pointer to details on how :

Re: SMP and softupdates?

2000-08-28 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:46:20PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: Personally, I'm astonished that an SMP kernel will actually boot and run on a uniprocessor machine. Grr, still getting used to mutt, and I didn't reply to the list. Yes, I'm using an SMP board, and waiting on the arrival of

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 28 August 2000 at 8:24:50 -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: Maxim Sobolev writes: Mike Meyer wrote: Will the system fail to boot if there isn't an empty device.hints file? No, it will boot, but some devices (like keyboard, console etc) would not work. That's clearly not true - I just

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Brooks Davis
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:25:26AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: At the very least, there appears to be confusion about how to use the hints. I can see two conflicting views here: 1. You must have a /boot/device.hints file, but it may be empty. This is minimally correct. I.e. that's what the

Re: panic: reducing sbsize: lost count, uid = 1001

2000-08-28 Thread John Polstra
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Fundakowski Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woops, I have the KASSERT bungled up. Please change KASSERT(to *hiwat uip != NULL, to KASSERT(to = *hiwat || uip != NULL, It seems to be fixed now. I've had a script pounding on it all